Ukraine

[Sunni Man]

This sets a new standard for stupidity. When the Russians entered Ukraine they were already in Donbas, so why would they leave Donbas and divide their forces into three prongs to enter the Kyiv area from three directions only to return to Donbas?

Don't be obtuse. ...
I never said the Russian army left the Donbas.
They only sent a small number of troops to the outskirts of Kiev as a feign so the Ukraine commanders would transfer a lot of their soldiers from the Donbas to protect the capital city of Kiev.
Which left less Ukrainian forces to defend the Donbas area.
The Russian strategy worked exactly as they planned.
Because now the Russian army occupies and controls almost the entire Donbas region and is still steadily advancing westward. ...

 

[Sunni Man]

What happened was that the Ukrainians talked all summer about the counteroffensive they were preparing in the South,

That big media hyped counter-offensive Ukraine tried a few days ago in Kherson was a total failure.
Ukrainian forces were soundly defeated and now the Russian army owns the entire city of Kherson and the surrounding area. ...

 

[toomuchtime_]

Don't be obtuse. ...
I never said the Russian army left the Donbas.
They only sent a small number of troops to the outskirts of Kiev as a feign so the Ukraine commanders would transfer a lot of their soldiers from the Donbas to protect the capital city of Kiev.
Which left less Ukrainian forces to defend the Donbas area.
The Russian strategy worked exactly as they planned.
Because now the Russian army occupies and controls almost the entire Donbas region and is still steadily advancing westward. ...

Still more bullshit from you. They sent nearly all their forces to try to surround Kyiv and that led to supply problems because they had not secured the supply routes. The only way the Russian movements made any sense at all was if Putin was stupid enough to believe a show of force at Kyiv would lead to a quick surrender and a pro Russian government in Kyiv. Even then it doesn't explain how Putin could have been so stupid as to send a large number of tanks and heavy trucks into Ukraine when the ground was still too soft for them to travel cross country.

The only thing more stupid than the Russian battle plan is the claim that it was "just a feint."

 

[toomuchtime_]

That big media hyped counter-offensive Ukraine tried a few days ago in Kherson was a total failure.
Ukrainian forces were soundly defeated and now the Russian army owns the entire city of Kherson and the surrounding area. ...

Nonsense, the counteroffensive in the south has made some progress but is moving slowly, and both sides have lost large numbers of soldiers. The soldiers Russia transferred to the south to meet the southern offensive has slowed it down, but at the cost of losing large swaths of land in the northeast.

 

[Toro]

Russian Forces Flee Ukraine's Kharkiv Offensive In Stunning Rout (Updated)

Russia confirms what is clearly a frantic withdrawal toward Donbas as Ukraine’s counteroffensive steamrolls deep into occupied territory.

www.thedrive.com

Poor poor Sunni Man

His ethno-fascist hero is losing

LOL

 

[Toro]

Don't be obtuse. ...
I never said the Russian army left the Donbas.
They only sent a small number of troops to the outskirts of Kiev as a feign so the Ukraine commanders would transfer a lot of their soldiers from the Donbas to protect the capital city of Kiev.
Which left less Ukrainian forces to defend the Donbas area.
The Russian strategy worked exactly as they planned.
Because now the Russian army occupies and controls almost the entire Donbas region and is still steadily advancing westward. ...

You're losing to a foe who is one quarter your size

Keep clinging to your lies

LOL

 

[Sunni Man]

They sent nearly all their forces to try to surround Kyiv and that led to supply problems because they had not secured the supply routes.

Now your being silly. ...
Only a small portion of Russian troops were sent to the outskirts of Kiev
No, the Russia army didn't try to surround Kiev or attempt to invade it.
Kiev is a huge city and the Russian army didn't want to waste soldiers lives by getting into house to house street fighting.
Because there was absolutely no military value in fighting to occupy Kiev.
Also, the benevolent Putin didn't want the beautiful historic city of Kiev destroyed because it's a venerable part of Russia's history.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Now your being silly. ...
Only a small portion of Russian troops were sent to the outskirts of Kiev
No, the Russia army didn't try to surround Kiev or invade it.
Kiev is a huge city and the Russian army didn't want to waste soldiers lives by getting into house to house street fighting.
Because there was absolutely no military value in fighting to occupy Kiev.
Also, Putin didn't want the beautiful historic city of Kiev destroyed because it's a venerable part of Russia's history.

Again, you are just stepping all over yourself trying to claim Putin is not an idiot. If the Russians sent just a small force then Ukraine would not have had to send a large force and so yo0r feint would just have been a brain fart. Again, if a large force had been left behind then Russia would have been able to secure the supply lines, which it couldn't. You're trying to cover one lie with a bunch of new ones.

 

[Sunni Man]

Again, you are just stepping all over yourself trying to claim Putin is not an idiot. If the Russians sent just a small force then Ukraine would not have had to send a large force and so yo0r feint would just have been a brain fart. Again, if a large force had been left behind then Russia would have been able to secure the supply lines, which it couldn't. You're trying to cover one lie with a bunch of new ones.

You are soo comical. ...
Thanks for the nonsense post!! ...

 

[frigidweirdo]

In other words, it’s likely Ukraine is getting their ass kicked.

Except Russia has confirmed it.

 

[gipper]

Except Russia has confirmed it.

Link?

 

[Ringo]

I don't even understand strategy and tactics at the level of computer games. It is not for me to sort out the mistakes and miscalculations of the military leadership, if there were any.

But now I understand only one thing — if this had happened in some other war, it would have been an ordinary phenomenon. Even in 1945, the Germans had quite successful counterattacks. And surely then in Germany they were presented as great victories, as the complete defeat of the Red Army and the beginning of the steady movement of the Wehrmacht to the east.

However, the Red Army was already in Berlin in April and Germany was finished.

Perhaps, if there had been an Internet then, Goebbels' office would also have been actively working against the USSR, screaming about its "great victories", as ukrainian propaganda is doing now.

During the Syrian campaign, Palmyra was first taken and then lost. Then, too, someone shouted about the "complete defeat" and the failure of the entire campaign. But then Palmyra was taken again, and ISIS* actually ceased to exist as a whole controlled and numerous organization. ISIS has been smashed and smeared.

And now a peaceful life is being established in most of Syria.

In 2014, the Armed forces of Ukraine and nazi batallions reached almost Izvarino. From the south there was an almost complete encirclement of Donetsk. Remember how the guys fought at the Saur-Grave. Then it seemed that everything was about to collapse.
And then the DPR people's militia was under Donetsk in several days.

There were Ilovaysk.
There were Uglegorsk and Debaltseve.
There were victories and defeats. There is no other way in war.
And russians will prevail. Whatever happens. They can handle it.

Just because they always manage.

Proven by centuries of Russian history.

 

[Toro]

Link?

 

[Toro]

But but but it’s not happening! My precious fragile ego completely wrapped up in anti-American hatred refuses to believe it!

 

[Toro]

 

[Toro]

As much as anything else, Russia needing to move forces from one front where things are already going badly to another where things are going even worse is as much a sign as anything else of Russia’s generally weakening, losing position in the overall war, which the Kherson counteroffensive is about to expose for all to see beyond doubt.​

Why Is Russia Losing on 3 Fronts? Math (the Short Answer)

In moving troops from stronger positions in Ukraine’s east to weaker positions in the country’s south, Russia exposed those troops to more danger in the south while making its eastern p…

realcontextnews.com

 

[Toro]

 

[Ringo]

"incredible, masterful success for the Ukrainian armed forces. This will be in the history books"

Is masterful success for the Wehrmacht in december of 1944 during Ardennes assault in history books of the German Reich?

 

[Toro]

The anti-Americans are feeding off a diet of Russian propaganda.

 

[Jaxson]

Anyone who believes the nonsense spewed out by the Ukraine spin ministry of propaganda needs their head examined. ...

Comes from Reuters. Suck it up, princess.