Ukraine: the whole picture

[Fromlastout2]

Hi, wanted to add some thoughts. About Ukraine, why no one reacted when Ukrainian army was shelling Donetzk, with dead civillians laying on bus stations. Find some pictures and videos of that from that time and show them now? Germans told them: kick russians out of Ukraine, and we’ll get you in E.U. , who doesn’t understand that? Did McDonalds pull out of Lviv or Kiev at that time? Those nazi Ukrainians from west, came to Donetzk and Lugansk with nazi swastika on the uniform, told russians (ukrainian citizens) to run to Russia. Ukrainian army allowed them to do it. That’s how you treat citizens of your country? By the way, those places are special, with kosaks living between Don and Dnepr, military people, former ww2 veterans, former soviet high officers and a lot of military. Of course, they fight before flight. They wanted to ban/criminalize russian language in schools, in church services, ban newspapers in russian, television and radio in russian. This is not genocide? Why is everyone shut up then and not now. In the USA, no one going after spanish speaking, forcing them not to read newspapers or tv in spanish. The whole country would burn probably. And ukrainians were doing it with governments aproval and army. The bottom line: germans told them, “If you have half of the country with ethnic russians, you will never be in european union! Understand?”

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[Penelope]

Geez who are these people just got the message board today.

 

[JoeB131]

Hi, wanted to add some thoughts. About Ukraine, why no one reacted when Ukrainian army was shelling Donetzk, with dead civillians laying on bus stations. Find some pictures and videos of that from that time and show them now? Germans told them: kick russians out of Ukraine, and we’ll get you in E.U. , who doesn’t understand that? Did McDonalds pull out of Lviv or Kiev at that time? Those nazi Ukrainians from west, came to Donetzk and Lugansk with nazi swastika on the uniform, told russians (ukrainian citizens) to run to Russia. Ukrainian army allowed them to do it. That’s how you treat citizens of your country? By the way, those places are special, with kosaks living between Don and Dnepr, military people, former ww2 veterans, former soviet high officers and a lot of military. Of course, they fight before flight. They wanted to ban/criminalize russian language in schools, in church services, ban newspapers in russian, television and radio in russian. This is not genocide? Why is everyone shut up then and not now. In the USA, no one going after spanish speaking, forcing them not to read newspapers or tv in spanish. The whole country would burn probably. And ukrainians were doing it with governments aproval and army. The bottom line: germans told them, “If you have half of the country with ethnic russians, you will never be in european union! Understand?”

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Wow, are they cracking the whip a little harder at the St. Petersburg Troll Farm?

Paramilitaries in Donetzk were making war against the government... of course they were going to respond militarily, just like Russia did in Chechnya.

 

[Coyote]

Hi, wanted to add some thoughts. About Ukraine, why no one reacted when Ukrainian army was shelling Donetzk, with dead civillians laying on bus stations. Find some pictures and videos of that from that time and show them now? Germans told them: kick russians out of Ukraine, and we’ll get you in E.U. , who doesn’t understand that? Did McDonalds pull out of Lviv or Kiev at that time? Those nazi Ukrainians from west, came to Donetzk and Lugansk with nazi swastika on the uniform, told russians (ukrainian citizens) to run to Russia. Ukrainian army allowed them to do it. That’s how you treat citizens of your country? By the way, those places are special, with kosaks living between Don and Dnepr, military people, former ww2 veterans, former soviet high officers and a lot of military. Of course, they fight before flight. They wanted to ban/criminalize russian language in schools, in church services, ban newspapers in russian, television and radio in russian. This is not genocide? Why is everyone shut up then and not now. In the USA, no one going after spanish speaking, forcing them not to read newspapers or tv in spanish. The whole country would burn probably. And ukrainians were doing it with governments aproval and army. The bottom line: germans told them, “If you have half of the country with ethnic russians, you will never be in european union! Understand?”

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Didn’t Zelensky open his country to being investigated for possible war crimes?

Wasn’t various forms of aid contingent upon cleaning up corruption and consideration for EU would be dependent on cleaning human rights violations right?

If you want to blame someone blame Stalin, and his mass population transfers to dilute ethnic minorities, the banning of their languages and suppression of the cultures. Why do you think, When finally free of the Soviets they turned against ethnic Russians? That doesn’t make it right. But what Russia is doing to Ukraine is far far worse.

 

[Coyote]

Wow, are they cracking the whip a little harder at the St. Petersburg Troll Farm?

Paramilitaries in Donetzk were making war against the government... of course they were going to respond militarily, just like Russia did in Chechnya.

Except …. in the second Chechnyans war, there is considerable indirect evidence that Putin set it up and was behind the bombing that ultimately brought into power.

 

[1srelluc]

There is a reason YouTube removed Oliver Stone's documentary, "Ukraine on Fire".....There are propagandists on both sides who only want you to have one view....Theirs.