Deadstick
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Don' know about you but i wouldn't want to survive a nuclear war.
Donald Trump: This is a war (in Ukraine) that never should have started.
Deadstick
Platinum Member
When will you morons stop repeating that lie about NATO being a defence alliance? they have never acted in defence they have only attacked, so cut the bullshit.
Litwin
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zaangalewa
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From time to time The UNO asks the NATO to help. And who is able to say "no" to all the nice and beautiful women and men worldwide who need our help because cruel criminal monsters like the ugly "men" Putin and Kim Jong-Un attack innocent people in self-made stupid, senseless and criminal wars?
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Deadstick
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Stop barking your Nazi poison like a rabid dog, i hope yu don't need another lesson.
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zaangalewa
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You try to find every absurde "argument" for to have to go to hell, isn't it? Hell is nice and a war place, isn't it?
Tell me what you like to teach me, Russian, and I am able to say whether I am interested in this theme or not. In the moment you teach Ukrainians to die and I - better to say we - will help Ukrainians not to have to die. Comprende, criminal slave of Putin or slave of any other absurde tyrant?
Serios question: Aren't you actually disgusted with yourself for killing the Ukrainian children of God and forcing them to defend those they love and to have to kill Russian children of God in the process? When are you actually going to start overcoming your stupidity, senselessness and cruelty?
It's hard for me to live without you
To simply give everything every day at all times
I think back so often to what was
Every day that I loved so much
I imagine that you stand by me
And walking each of my paths by my side
I think of so many things since you're gone
Because you showed me how precious life is
We were born to live with the wonders of every age
Never to forget each other for all eternity
We were born to live for the one moment
When each of us felt how precious life is
It still hurts to create new space again
To allow something new with a good feeling
In this moment you are close to me again
Like on every beloved past day
It is my wish to allow dreams again
To look forward to a future without regrets
I see a meaning since you are gone
Because you showed me how precious my life is
We were born to live with the wonders of every time
Never to forget each other for all eternity
We were born to live for the one moment
When each of us felt how precious life is
How precious life is
We were born to live
With the wonders of every time
Born to live
We were born to live with the wonders of every age
Never to forget each other for all eternity
We were born to live for the one moment
When each of us felt how precious life is
We were born to live with the wonders of every age
To never forget each other for all eternity
We were born to live for the one moment
When each of us felt how precious life is
We were born to live
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Deadstick
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The lesson you were taught in 1945, the one some Germans have forgotten, you have already provoked Russia too much, maybe when Ramstein is wiped off the map you will get the message.
zaangalewa
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The lesson "1945" means for Russia: Kill Putin latest in 1999. Men like Putin are the wrong men to lead a country. Meanwhile I doubt at all men are able to lead countries. Perhaps it's time to install worldwide much more matriarchats.
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Deadstick
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One would have thought most Ukrainians would have caught on by now as to the the criminal gang they are fighting for.
Ringo
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The coup in Ukraine, which caused today's conflict with Russia, was organized by the clique of Madeleine Albright, Angela Merkel and Hillary Clinton. And the current team in the White House, including Harris, is so stupid that they don't even realize what's going on. This was revealed by Trump's first campaign manager Paul Manafort in an interview with Tucker Carlson.
- Ukrainians were more concerned with the economic question. Yes, they wanted independence, but at that moment they were afraid of a Russian invasion. And the Russians didn't want NATO at their doorstep in Ukraine.
- Yes, but why did the Biden administration do all this if the Ukrainians didn't want to join NATO and NATO didn't want Ukraine? That's the plain truth, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
- You're right.
- Why then would the Biden administration, and Kamala Harris in particular, publicly call for Ukraine's admission to NATO? What's the point of that?
- Because they are idiots. You can't justify a policy that neither Europeans, Ukrainians, nor Russians want. Only the Americans alone.
- Ukrainians were more concerned with the economic question. Yes, they wanted independence, but at that moment they were afraid of a Russian invasion. And the Russians didn't want NATO at their doorstep in Ukraine.
- Yes, but why did the Biden administration do all this if the Ukrainians didn't want to join NATO and NATO didn't want Ukraine? That's the plain truth, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
- You're right.
- Why then would the Biden administration, and Kamala Harris in particular, publicly call for Ukraine's admission to NATO? What's the point of that?
- Because they are idiots. You can't justify a policy that neither Europeans, Ukrainians, nor Russians want. Only the Americans alone.
Deadstick
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The collective West are still lying about what triggered all this, i was listening to a talk in on the radio this morning, they had a Ukrainian MP on a NATO expert etc, what they didn't have on was anyone who was not buying the usual Western narrative, i heard so much delusional bullshit it was unreal, you can trace this back to the Coup in Ukraine that overthrew the elected Government in 2014 period, although there were signs the way Ukraine was going years before that when the Bandera element were barking like rabid dogs.
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Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, has a fundamentally different opinion on events in Ukraine compared to the opinion of Democrats, especially Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Obama, Biden and Harris say that the events in Ukraine began with popular outrage against the corrupt regime of the then Ukrainian President Yanukovych, who - on November 21, 2013 - postponed the signing of the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. Obama personally called Yanukovych a corrupt ruler; see the thread Democratic Party Politicians and the Ukrainian Crisis.
However, Donald Trump assessed the initial situation differently last year (see the quote and video below):
In my articles, I too have always emphasized the absolute absence of internal reasons for the protest movement – the so-called Euromaidan - that began in Ukraine at the end of 2013.
No one in their right mind would believe that people could start throwing stones at police and then start burning and killing because of something as trivial as a delay in signing some agreement.
In 1949 France became a member of NATO under one government; then in 1966 under another government, it left NATO's military structures, and in 2009 under another government, it fully returned to NATO. Probably, it will leave again in the future, then return again, etc.
In 1973, the UK became a member of the EU under one government, and left the EU in 2020 under another government. Probably, it will return again in the future, then leave again, etc.
In 1952, Greece entered NATO, in 1974 left it and in 1980 returned.
That is, countries constantly enter into some unions, leave them, return, etc. Nobody can understand why it was so important for Ukrainians to sign the association agreement with the EU exactly in 2013.
Fifteen months after the signing of the agreement between Ukraine and the EU was postponed, the next Ukrainian presidential election was due to take place, in which Ukrainians could legally elect another President, who would have signed this agreement more quickly.
As for corruption under Yanukovych, during 10 years which passed since Yanukovych had been removed from office in February 2014, Ukrainian authorities failed to prove that Yanukovych had stolen even a cent.
But nobody in Ukraine was ever outraged by this fact; for example, in 2017 Ukrainians were outraged by a cruel treatment of a horse which drove a tourists' carriage in Odessa; see here.
By the way, information about Yanukovych was also removed from the Interpol data base and you can see it yourself on the official website of Interpol.
In March 2014, the Russian government decided to accept the Crimea – where the majority of population are ethnic Russians - into the Russian Federation; in my opinion, to a great extent due to the fact that protesters in Ukraine had begun to burn and kill during the Euromaidan; see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?
However, after acceptance of the Crimea into the Russian Federation, Ukrainian authorities began to threat with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine - please see the official website of the Ukrainian President.
And these threats were accompanied by large-scale deliveries of Western military equipment to Ukraine; see in this regard the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?
As for the above mentioned Russian military operation in Ukraine, Trump lays blame for it on President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. He said Biden “egged it all on” by pledging to help Ukraine defend itself rather than pushing it to cede territory to Russia; see The Associated Press.
P. S.
The title of this article “This is a war that never should have started” is taken from Donald Trump's speech during his presidential debate with Joe Biden.
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Let’s hope Trump ends this stupid war. It never should have happened in the first place.
It is foolish to push Russia into the arms of China.
The U.S. shouldn’t be the world policeman.
The neocons want to fight this war to the last Ukrainian.
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Ringo
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Dragonlady
Designing Woman
No they were not. But keep being a shill for Putin.
GMCGeneral
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From the Frostback who supports fat Left one party rule that ruined Canaduh
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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I thought that is what you did when you went to get a horse out of the barn?
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Raytheon probably doesn't make artillery shells since they are primarily electronics.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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He was a genius who took advantage of Biden's inaction.
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