Donald Trump: This is a war (in Ukraine) that never should have started.

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Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, has a fundamentally different opinion on events in Ukraine compared to the opinion of Democrats, especially Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Obama, Biden and Harris say that the events in Ukraine began with popular outrage against the corrupt regime of the then Ukrainian President Yanukovych, who - on November 21, 2013 - postponed the signing of the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. Obama personally called Yanukovych a corrupt ruler; see the thread Democratic Party Politicians and the Ukrainian Crisis.

However, Donald Trump assessed the initial situation differently last year (see the quote and video below):
For decades, we’ve had the very same people, such as Victoria Nuland and many others just like her, obsessed with pushing Ukraine toward NATO, not to mention the State Department’s support for uprisings in Ukraine. These people have been seeking confrontation for a long time…​



In my articles, I too have always emphasized the absolute absence of internal reasons for the protest movement – the so-called Euromaidan - that began in Ukraine at the end of 2013.

No one in their right mind would believe that people could start throwing stones at police and then start burning and killing because of something as trivial as a delay in signing some agreement.

In 1949 France became a member of NATO under one government; then in 1966 under another government, it left NATO's military structures, and in 2009 under another government, it fully returned to NATO. Probably, it will leave again in the future, then return again, etc.

In 1973, the UK became a member of the EU under one government, and left the EU in 2020 under another government. Probably, it will return again in the future, then leave again, etc.

In 1952, Greece entered NATO, in 1974 left it and in 1980 returned.

That is, countries constantly enter into some unions, leave them, return, etc. Nobody can understand why it was so important for Ukrainians to sign the association agreement with the EU exactly in 2013.

Fifteen months after the signing of the agreement between Ukraine and the EU was postponed, the next Ukrainian presidential election was due to take place, in which Ukrainians could legally elect another President, who would have signed this agreement more quickly.​


As for corruption under Yanukovych, during 10 years which passed since Yanukovych had been removed from office in February 2014, Ukrainian authorities failed to prove that Yanukovych had stolen even a cent.

But nobody in Ukraine was ever outraged by this fact; for example, in 2017 Ukrainians were outraged by a cruel treatment of a horse which drove a tourists' carriage in Odessa; see here.

By the way, information about Yanukovych was also removed from the Interpol data base and you can see it yourself on the official website of Interpol.

In March 2014, the Russian government decided to accept the Crimea – where the majority of population are ethnic Russians - into the Russian Federation; in my opinion, to a great extent due to the fact that protesters in Ukraine had begun to burn and kill during the Euromaidan; see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

However, after acceptance of the Crimea into the Russian Federation, Ukrainian authorities began to threat with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine - please see the official website of the Ukrainian President.

And these threats were accompanied by large-scale deliveries of Western military equipment to Ukraine; see in this regard the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

As for the above mentioned Russian military operation in Ukraine, Trump lays blame for it on President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. He said Biden “egged it all on” by pledging to help Ukraine defend itself rather than pushing it to cede territory to Russia; see The Associated Press.

P. S.
The title of this article “This is a war that never should have started” is taken from Donald Trump's speech during his presidential debate with Joe Biden.​

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Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, has a fundamentally different opinion on events in Ukraine compared to the opinion of Democrats, especially Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Obama, Biden and Harris say that the events in Ukraine began with popular outrage against the corrupt regime of the then Ukrainian President Yanukovych, who - on November 21, 2013 - postponed the signing of the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. Obama personally called Yanukovych a corrupt ruler; see the thread Democratic Party Politicians and the Ukrainian Crisis.

However, Donald Trump assessed the initial situation differently last year (see the quote and video below):




In my articles, I too have always emphasized the absolute absence of internal reasons for the protest movement – the so-called Euromaidan - that began in Ukraine at the end of 2013.

No one in their right mind would believe that people could start throwing stones at police and then start burning and killing because of something as trivial as a delay in signing some agreement.

In 1949 France became a member of NATO under one government; then in 1966 under another government, it left NATO's military structures, and in 2009 under another government, it fully returned to NATO. Probably, it will leave again in the future, then return again, etc.

In 1973, the UK became a member of the EU under one government, and left the EU in 2020 under another government. Probably, it will return again in the future, then leave again, etc.

In 1952, Greece entered NATO, in 1974 left it and in 1980 returned.

That is, countries constantly enter into some unions, leave them, return, etc. Nobody can understand why it was so important for Ukrainians to sign the association agreement with the EU exactly in 2013.

Fifteen months after the signing of the agreement between Ukraine and the EU was postponed, the next Ukrainian presidential election was due to take place, in which Ukrainians could legally elect another President, who would have signed this agreement more quickly.​


As for corruption under Yanukovych, during 10 years which passed since Yanukovych had been removed from office in February 2014, Ukrainian authorities failed to prove that Yanukovych had stolen even a cent.

But nobody in Ukraine was ever outraged by this fact; for example, in 2017 Ukrainians were outraged by a cruel treatment of a horse which drove a tourists' carriage in Odessa; see here.

By the way, information about Yanukovych was also removed from the Interpol data base and you can see it yourself on the official website of Interpol.

In March 2014, the Russian government decided to accept the Crimea – where the majority of population are ethnic Russians - into the Russian Federation; in my opinion, to a great extent due to the fact that protesters in Ukraine had begun to burn and kill during the Euromaidan; see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

However, after acceptance of the Crimea into the Russian Federation, Ukrainian authorities began to threat with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine - please see the official website of the Ukrainian President.

And these threats were accompanied by large-scale deliveries of Western military equipment to Ukraine; see in this regard the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

As for the above mentioned Russian military operation in Ukraine, Trump lays blame for it on President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. He said Biden “egged it all on” by pledging to help Ukraine defend itself rather than pushing it to cede territory to Russia; see The Associated Press.

P. S.
The title of this article “This is a war that never should have started” is taken from Donald Trump's speech during his presidential debate with Joe Biden.​

Source

Yup. Obama and the US State Department were all in favor of an insurrection and coup to overthrow a democracy, so long as they could install a puppet regime of their choice.

The US destabilized the country in 2014, it turned into a civil war, and dragged in Russia.

All because the US wants to start wars and hurt Russia.
 

Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, has a fundamentally different opinion on events in Ukraine compared to the opinion of Democrats, especially Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Obama, Biden and Harris say that the events in Ukraine began with popular outrage against the corrupt regime of the then Ukrainian President Yanukovych, who - on November 21, 2013 - postponed the signing of the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. Obama personally called Yanukovych a corrupt ruler; see the thread Democratic Party Politicians and the Ukrainian Crisis.

However, Donald Trump assessed the initial situation differently last year (see the quote and video below):




In my articles, I too have always emphasized the absolute absence of internal reasons for the protest movement – the so-called Euromaidan - that began in Ukraine at the end of 2013.

No one in their right mind would believe that people could start throwing stones at police and then start burning and killing because of something as trivial as a delay in signing some agreement.

In 1949 France became a member of NATO under one government; then in 1966 under another government, it left NATO's military structures, and in 2009 under another government, it fully returned to NATO. Probably, it will leave again in the future, then return again, etc.

In 1973, the UK became a member of the EU under one government, and left the EU in 2020 under another government. Probably, it will return again in the future, then leave again, etc.

In 1952, Greece entered NATO, in 1974 left it and in 1980 returned.

That is, countries constantly enter into some unions, leave them, return, etc. Nobody can understand why it was so important for Ukrainians to sign the association agreement with the EU exactly in 2013.

Fifteen months after the signing of the agreement between Ukraine and the EU was postponed, the next Ukrainian presidential election was due to take place, in which Ukrainians could legally elect another President, who would have signed this agreement more quickly.​


As for corruption under Yanukovych, during 10 years which passed since Yanukovych had been removed from office in February 2014, Ukrainian authorities failed to prove that Yanukovych had stolen even a cent.

But nobody in Ukraine was ever outraged by this fact; for example, in 2017 Ukrainians were outraged by a cruel treatment of a horse which drove a tourists' carriage in Odessa; see here.

By the way, information about Yanukovych was also removed from the Interpol data base and you can see it yourself on the official website of Interpol.

In March 2014, the Russian government decided to accept the Crimea – where the majority of population are ethnic Russians - into the Russian Federation; in my opinion, to a great extent due to the fact that protesters in Ukraine had begun to burn and kill during the Euromaidan; see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

However, after acceptance of the Crimea into the Russian Federation, Ukrainian authorities began to threat with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine - please see the official website of the Ukrainian President.

And these threats were accompanied by large-scale deliveries of Western military equipment to Ukraine; see in this regard the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

As for the above mentioned Russian military operation in Ukraine, Trump lays blame for it on President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. He said Biden “egged it all on” by pledging to help Ukraine defend itself rather than pushing it to cede territory to Russia; see The Associated Press.

P. S.
The title of this article “This is a war that never should have started” is taken from Donald Trump's speech during his presidential debate with Joe Biden.​

Source


In Trumps view, Ukraine should have just surrendered when Putin asked and not put up a fight.

Now that Putin is in a stalemate with no way out, he wants Ukraine to just surrender everything with nothing in return……On Day One
 
The democrats were salivating for this war to start... Biden never even tried to prevent hostilities....
If they could and still win an election they would put our troops on the ground... and they will if Kamala wins... they want Putin's head on a stick because they still foolishly believe Putin got Trump elected in 2016...
 
The democrats were salivating for this war to start... Biden never even tried to prevent hostilities....
If they could and still win an election they would put our troops on the ground... and they will if Kamala wins... they want Putin's head on a stick because they still foolishly believe Putin got Trump elected in 2016...

Democrats want to hold Putin accountable for his actions
Republicans want to give him what he demands
 
Democrats want to hold Putin accountable for his actions
Republicans want to give him what he demands
No they want him dead and they won't stop till he is dead and its not for his actions its because you nuts still believe a proven lie from 2016....
 
Yup. Obama and the US State Department were all in favor of an insurrection and coup to overthrow a democracy, so long as they could install a puppet regime of their choice.

The US destabilized the country in 2014, it turned into a civil war, and dragged in Russia.

All because the US wants to start wars and hurt Russia.
The same bastards are trying the same stunt in Georgia right now, if they get violent i hope the Georgian Government crush them.
 

Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, has a fundamentally different opinion on events in Ukraine compared to the opinion of Democrats, especially Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Obama, Biden and Harris say that the events in Ukraine began with popular outrage against the corrupt regime of the then Ukrainian President Yanukovych, who - on November 21, 2013 - postponed the signing of the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. Obama personally called Yanukovych a corrupt ruler; see the thread Democratic Party Politicians and the Ukrainian Crisis.

However, Donald Trump assessed the initial situation differently last year (see the quote and video below):




In my articles, I too have always emphasized the absolute absence of internal reasons for the protest movement – the so-called Euromaidan - that began in Ukraine at the end of 2013.

No one in their right mind would believe that people could start throwing stones at police and then start burning and killing because of something as trivial as a delay in signing some agreement.

In 1949 France became a member of NATO under one government; then in 1966 under another government, it left NATO's military structures, and in 2009 under another government, it fully returned to NATO. Probably, it will leave again in the future, then return again, etc.

In 1973, the UK became a member of the EU under one government, and left the EU in 2020 under another government. Probably, it will return again in the future, then leave again, etc.

In 1952, Greece entered NATO, in 1974 left it and in 1980 returned.

That is, countries constantly enter into some unions, leave them, return, etc. Nobody can understand why it was so important for Ukrainians to sign the association agreement with the EU exactly in 2013.

Fifteen months after the signing of the agreement between Ukraine and the EU was postponed, the next Ukrainian presidential election was due to take place, in which Ukrainians could legally elect another President, who would have signed this agreement more quickly.​


As for corruption under Yanukovych, during 10 years which passed since Yanukovych had been removed from office in February 2014, Ukrainian authorities failed to prove that Yanukovych had stolen even a cent.

But nobody in Ukraine was ever outraged by this fact; for example, in 2017 Ukrainians were outraged by a cruel treatment of a horse which drove a tourists' carriage in Odessa; see here.

By the way, information about Yanukovych was also removed from the Interpol data base and you can see it yourself on the official website of Interpol.

In March 2014, the Russian government decided to accept the Crimea – where the majority of population are ethnic Russians - into the Russian Federation; in my opinion, to a great extent due to the fact that protesters in Ukraine had begun to burn and kill during the Euromaidan; see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

However, after acceptance of the Crimea into the Russian Federation, Ukrainian authorities began to threat with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine - please see the official website of the Ukrainian President.

And these threats were accompanied by large-scale deliveries of Western military equipment to Ukraine; see in this regard the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

As for the above mentioned Russian military operation in Ukraine, Trump lays blame for it on President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. He said Biden “egged it all on” by pledging to help Ukraine defend itself rather than pushing it to cede territory to Russia; see The Associated Press.

P. S.
The title of this article “This is a war that never should have started” is taken from Donald Trump's speech during his presidential debate with Joe Biden.​

Source

But it has happened. Now what, genius?
 
Yup. Obama and the US State Department were all in favor of an insurrection and coup to overthrow a democracy, so long as they could install a puppet regime of their choice.

The US destabilized the country in 2014, it turned into a civil war, and dragged in Russia.

All because the US wants to start wars and hurt Russia.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

A Putin installed and controlled Corrupt President in Ukraine 2014 was not democracy, and the Ukrainian people got rid of him, for good reason.
 
The same bastards are trying the same stunt in Georgia right now, if they get violent i hope the Georgian Government crush them.
Yea I heard the Georgians voted in a based government, and not what our corrupt State Department wanted (a Zelensky like stooge).
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

A Putin installed and controlled Corrupt President in Ukraine 2014 was not democracy, and the Ukrainian people got rid of him, for good reason.
Not a democracy because you didn’t like him. Funny how that works.
 

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