Ukraine Agrees to 30 Day Ceasefire; Rubio Will Take the Deal to Russia

perhaps they're realizing they've no choice Kruska....~S~
Correct - Russia is currently militarily in no position to keep on engaging with Ukraine, nor to keep recently gained territories.
They desperately need a break - and Trump made sure they got it. Off course Putin will still engage into some haggling so as to sell it off, as "his" victory.
 
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This is a civil war between separatists in the Donbas, and the ruling elite in Kyev.


If you have been following this war, you would know that Putin's goal is to de-nazify the establishment in Kyev, and it really has nothing to do with the silly western war propaganda.




Now?

Once that slutty little cocaine addict leading the neo-nazis in Kyev is gone, along with all of his goons? There might be a chance Putin will come to the peace table, till then?


meh, I don't think the Russians have any desire to govern folks that don't want to be part of Russia. They have made that clear to anyone willing to listen.


SO your comment is irrelevant.
I wouldn't call the Mayor of Kyiv a Nazi to his face.
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Who has one of these, and how much does it cost per hour?
Such PMC-owned air force providers - are available - and they do not charge by the hour.

e.g. In 2019, (Trump's 1st stint) the U.S. Air Force signed a $6.4 billion contract with seven PMCs for provision of red air services.

Other PMC's can offer anything from 5-70 modern fighter jets. PMC Wagner is one of them
 
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Here is Moscow's take, from Temporary Ukraine Ceasefire ’Unacceptable,’ Russian MFA Spokeswoman Says - The Moscow Times
"Russia said Thursday it would not accept a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine, rejecting proposals of a one-month halt in fighting or a stop in aerial and naval attacks — ideas floated by Ukrainian Volodymyr Zelensky and French President Emmanuel Macron."
So basically Zelenskyy got what he wanted: the resumption of US aid and intelligence sharing, and the war continues as before. Just like almost everything Trump tries to spin as some great victory, it isn't really anything he got played yet again.
1. That WAS Moscow's take last week (3/6). That may not be the same this week after Ukraine approved the ceasefire.
2. Trump may have a carrot or stick that would get Putin's attention?
3. You may be right, but we haven't heard official word yet.
 
Correct - Russia is currently militarily in no position to keep on engaging with Ukraine, nor to keep recently gained territories.
They desperately need a break - and Trump made sure they got it. Off course Putin will still engage into some haggling so as to sell it off, as "his" victory.
The lines haven't moved significantly and rarely in Ukraine's favor in a year. The offensive force almost always incurs more casualties, something Ukraine can ill afford so if Russia turtles into a purely defensive war and decides to just keep the territory it currently has Ukraine can do little but weaken itself trying to take it back. They should have taken the deal that was on the table 3 weeks into this war but Biden (or whomever was running the country) took a gamble and lost. Ukraine will suffer because of it.
 
Ukraine will suffer because of it.



There never was a chance that Russia would agree to any sort of cease fire when it has driven the UAF to a grinding full stop and is kicking the last few out of Kursk right now .

Deep State Trumpfy can threaten as he chooses but he has zero way of backing up any threats with effective action .
 
There never was a chance that Russia would agree to any sort of cease fire when it has driven the UAF to a grinding full stop and is kicking the last few out of Kursk right now .

Deep State Trumpfy can threaten as he chooses but he has zero way of backing up any threats with effective action .
There was a peace deal on the table 3 weeks into the war where Ukraine got to keep all its territory. It just had to stay out of NATO. In fact Russia sent a draft treaty to the head of NATO prior to the invasion that if signed would have avoided this entire debacle for the price of Ukraine not entering NATO. Essentially, we've killed 100's of thousands of people and destroyed a nation for " you cant tell me what to do" bull shit.
 
The lines haven't moved significantly and rarely in Ukraine's favor in a year. The offensive force almost always incurs more casualties, something Ukraine can ill afford so if Russia turtles into a purely defensive war and decides to just keep the territory it currently has Ukraine can do little but weaken itself trying to take it back. They should have taken the deal that was on the table 3 weeks into this war but Biden (or whomever was running the country) took a gamble and lost. Ukraine will suffer because of it.
Chapter 1

If there ever was a reasonable deal proposed, it was the one by China in 2023 - intentionally rejected by NATO (before even reading it) - whilst indicating to Zelinsky the expected arrival of large quantities of NATO weaponry, that should enable him to beat the Russians back.

Zelisnki took on the gamble and attacked - even successfully, but due to a lesser progress then anticipated by NATO - following urgently needed weaponry wasn't delivered by NATO. At the end of the day the UAF were worse off then before they had launched this overall offensive. And Putin decided to strike back no matter the costs (something NATO had not anticipated) - thus Putin effectively taking more additionally territory then he had during the Chinese peace proposal.

Putin is very well aware that he can't afford additional huge manpower and material losses, but still keeps the offensive ongoing in anticipation that NATO might very well finally send those long time requested weaponry to Ukraine. And Putin indeed would then face a serious problem. Thanks to Biden's indecision, especially in the last 6 month plus Trump's idiotic involvement, Ukraine was severely hindered to press against the exhausted and still mediocre led Russian Forces.

So until "massive" NATO supplies roll into Ukraine - Putin naturally is taking his chance to make the best out of it - until NATO, foremost this naive Trump might finally commit himself to massive shipments - in the meantime Putin is playing Trump in regards to telling him that he want's peace - waiting to see IF those shipment eventually arrive, and if yes, well off-course he will accept a ceasefire whilst still haggling about the terms - foremost in regard to NATO and the USA committing themselves to stop arming Ukraine.

Chapter 2

If there is one thing I am absolutely sure about:
Putin will NOT hesitate to use tactical nukes (in Ukraine) - if he realizes that he can't hold onto his territorial gains in Ukraine. So how can NATO avoid such a scenario? - only via committing NATO troops into Ukraine - and again this naive Trump play's right into Putin's hands - via publicly stating that NATO aka US troops will NOT enter/participate within the Ukraine.

Ukraine knows very well, that a prolonged ceasefire will only be used by Putin to regroup and reform his Armed Forces - so as to strike again. Therefore excluding Ukraine from NATO simply and only works for Putin.

The USA since Bush sen. has caused this entire mess, so either they feed Ukraine to Putin, (exactly what Trump is doing) or get US forces involved in Ukraine, whilst demanding for Putin to pull out of Ukraine and setting a date for free elections for Crimea, Donbass and Luhansk and comitting themselves to keep Ukraine out of NATO.

Europe would be plain stupid to go into Ukraine - let the USA handle their own created mess and prepare Europe for a time when Ukraine is controlled by Russia - without a USA being around. Much less in regards to wasting hundreds of billions onto it's military - but in view of having to accomondate 10-15 million Ukrainians.

And keep in mind - Putin won't be around forever.

Just my 2 cents.
 
BREAKING: Russia agrees with U.S./Ukraine ceasefire, but wants to speak to Trump first.

PUTIN: "We agree with the proposals for the ceasefire, but our position is based on the assumption that the ceasefire would lead to long-term peace, something that would remove the initial reasons for the crisis."

More meetings expected on this situation today.
 
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BREAKING: Russia agrees with U.S./Ukraine ceasefire, but wants to speak to Trump first.

PUTIN: "We agree with the proposals for the ceasefire, but our position is based on the assumption that the ceasefire would lead to long-term peace, something that would remove the initial reasons for the crisis."

More meetings expected on this situation today.

This is ******* great. Assuming that the fighting actually stops, that means they can talk while people are NOT dying.


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1. That WAS Moscow's take last week (3/6). That may not be the same this week after Ukraine approved the ceasefire

"Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday he didn’t support an immediate cease-fire in Ukraine, calling for more discussion on a permanent end to the war as Moscow’s army made rapid gains toward expelling Kyiv’s forces from its Kursk region. Putin said any pause in fighting at this point would be in Ukraine’s interest because Russia is gaining on the battlefield, and a host of issues would need to be resolved before a cease-fire could be reached"

So we're back to... Trump still hasn't ended the war he said he could end in one day and Zerlynskyy has gained the resumption of US support.
 
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What exactly what brought? There is no ceasefire, just an out of context video clip that Trump gooners are sucking each others' dicks over.

"Putin thanked Trump for bringing attention to the cease-fire in Ukraine, but he also raised a litany of complex issues that he said needed to be resolved before the fighting could end. Putin said it wasn’t clear how such a cease-fire would be enforced and whether it would give Ukraine the chance to shore up its forces. “Who will give orders to stop fighting? What is the price of those orders? Who will determine where and by whom they were violated?” he said, adding that he intended to discuss such questions with Trump."


In other words, he hasn't agreed to shit.
 

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