Ukraine Agrees to 30 Day Ceasefire; Rubio Will Take the Deal to Russia

Anyone else notice the rants and name calling of the progressives lately? They are unhinged.
The USAID thing has shaken them to their core.
Sorry, have you seen a MAGA when you as him for proof or evidence...

I want neither side insulting each other but don't try and paint MAGA as somehow innocent.
 
Sorry, have you seen a MAGA when you as him for proof or evidence...

I want neither side insulting each other but don't try and paint MAGA as somehow innocent.

How many progressives have you told to turn it down a notch?
 
The U.S. cannot offer a ceasefire; only the Russians can.
The Peace President can certainly be an intermediary between both sides in the conflict, and I believe the end result has you terrified. If TRUMP! can pull this off, he will indeed be lauded by millions around the world for doing in a few weeks what Quid Pro Joe didn't even attempt to do in 4 years.

That is totally unacceptable in your world. I expect you to complain and attempt to minimize while the rest of the world celebrates.
 
Russia controlling Ukraine or Zelensky controlling Ukraine makes no difference to me. Honestly I don't see much difference in the way governments run in France, Germany and the UK in comparison to Russia. Well except for the fact Russia invests in their own security.
Hellokitty
THANKS FOR YOUR HONESTY...

You show us your lack of understanding of a country like Russia who have put $200k bounty on US heads and cyberattacked US numerous times and UK that supported US in both Afghanistan and Iraq...

You make a very clear argument on why you shouldn't be listened too on this topic and geopolitics in general.. You don't know the difference between US allies who support democracy and US enemies who support dictatorships..

Again thanks for making it clear, ever thought of moving to Moscow?
 
The Peace President can certainly be an intermediary between both sides in the conflict, and I believe the end result has you terrified. If TRUMP! can pull this off, he will indeed be lauded by millions around the world for doing in a few weeks what Quid Pro Joe didn't even attempt to do in 4 years.

That is totally unacceptable in your world. I expect you to complain and attempt to minimize while the rest of the world celebrates.
Not really...

The Trump proposed peace deal is rewarding aggression... This basically rewards countries that invade other countries... We have had 75 years without a World War because everyone knows that if you invade, you are deemed the a War Criminal and you will pay (US is being the exception)..

This rewards Putin who is not known for keepiing deals...
 
Not really...

The Trump proposed peace deal is rewarding aggression... This basically rewards countries that invade other countries... We have had 75 years without a World War because everyone knows that if you invade, you are deemed the a War Criminal and you will pay (US is being the exception)..

This rewards Putin who is not known for keepiing deals...

Obama rewarded aggression by doing nothing. Biden rewarded it by just throwing money at the problem.

Only a world war would restore Ukraine back to its 2014 borders.
 
Not really...

The Trump proposed peace deal is rewarding aggression... This basically rewards countries that invade other countries... We have had 75 years without a World War because everyone knows that if you invade, you are deemed the a War Criminal and you will pay (US is being the exception)..

This rewards Putin who is not known for keepiing deals...
What is your solution to kick Russia out of Ukraine without putting American troops on the ground? Are you prepared for Vietnam all over again?
 
Obama rewarded aggression by doing nothing.
They tried sanctions... It didn't work but they wanted to try everything before there was a war...
Ukraine at the time was totally unprpared for a war and it would have needed US boots on the ground.
Biden rewarded it by just throwing money at the problem.
Biden move was actually very smart from a geopolitical sense...

For the price of less than two months of the Iraq war he has decimated half the Russian Military..

No US troop deployment... No coffins or wounded soldiers..
This was fighting a war on the cheap.
Personally I think he could have offered more and finished the job...
Only a world war would restore Ukraine back to its 2014 borders.
Nope...

If you get Air Superiority and split the Russian forces in south Ukraine using Air, Artillery and drones... Take out Crimea Bride and Port and you have trapped a huge chunk of the Russian army with little to no supply lines...
US and EU can give that type of Artillery and a mercenary Airforce...

What would the Russians do about that... And NO! they aren't using Nukes..
 
What is your solution to kick Russia out of Ukraine without putting American troops on the ground? Are you prepared for Vietnam all over again?
Described there...

Russia has left a way to cut them off...

This would leave the Donbas...

Really only interested in taking half the Donbass for land swaps... Don't want people who want to be Russian in EU...
This would make Ukraine more unified and stable going forward
 
Described there...

Russia has left a way to cut them off...

This would leave the Donbas...

Really only interested in taking half the Donbass for land swaps... Don't want people who want to be Russian in EU...
This would make Ukraine more unified and stable going forward
Now, that sounds like something TRUMP! might have come up with and probably would work. From what I have been reading on here, however, it would generate a tsunami of screams about "giving Putin everything he wants".
 
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They tried sanctions... It didn't work but they wanted to try everything before there was a war...
Ukraine at the time was totally unprpared for a war and it would have needed US boots on the ground.

Biden move was actually very smart from a geopolitical sense...

For the price of less than two months of the Iraq war he has decimated half the Russian Military..

No US troop deployment... No coffins or wounded soldiers..
This was fighting a war on the cheap.
Personally I think he could have offered more and finished the job...

Nope...

If you get Air Superiority and split the Russian forces in south Ukraine using Air, Artillery and drones... Take out Crimea Bride and Port and you have trapped a huge chunk of the Russian army with little to no supply lines...
US and EU can give that type of Artillery and a mercenary Airforce...

What would the Russians do about that... And NO! they aren't using Nukes..

Using NATO airpower in Ukraine would trigger WWIII, Russia isn't ******* Iraq where we can just declare a no fly zone.

They would use the Front line Divisions they have in reserve and enter the Baltics and Poland.
 
Off course they will accept it - after some haggling - especially in regards to US arms shipments.

Trump graciously gave Russia exactly what they wanted - keep all illegal occupied territories - isolate Ukraine from NATO, and get the time to regroup/rearm and take on Ukraine in a final assault.
perhaps they're realizing they've no choice Kruska....~S~
 
Now, that sounds like something TRUMP! might have come up with and probably would work. From what I have been reading on here, however, it would generate a tsunami of screams about "giving Putin everything he wants".
Not really...

The plan is to take all the Crimea which Putin holds as really valuable and thus has to be taken back... If Trump actually proposed that, I say EU would be on for it... Putin might not but, I would tell him that this is the offer, reject it and we will extract it from you in Blood and afterwards we will leave you decimated...
We will then heavilly invest in cyberattacking Russia and spread information which you will find harmful. China will then go looking for land back and access to water which you will be forced to give them.

We would do everything to make an example of you (Putin) to the world... Your people will hate you and you will never feel safe... We will do the same to any one that supports you as well...
 
Using NATO airpower in Ukraine would trigger WWIII, Russia isn't ******* Iraq where we can just declare a no fly zone.

They would use the Front line Divisions they have in reserve and enter the Baltics and Poland.
Mercenary Airforce... Russia use Mercs, so can Ukraine..

If Putin wants to attack other countries, go try it...

Putin must get to know that if he kicks it off, he will be dead, most likely killed by a fellow Russian..
 
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