U.S getting spyed on by ally AGAIN?!!!

[Beelzebub]

Amazing that the US and its military have this, "Shall I bend over a little more for you?" attitude to Israel.

Can it be that they miss the overt racism and religious fundamentalism which established America?

 

[Sally]

So, does that indicate that you approve of the spying?

Hagel says he is not aware of Israel spying on U.S | Nation | Jewish Journal

He doesn't want to end up like Kerry.

Actually Haniya here thinks that someone whose report states "the Zionists" instead of correctly using "Israelis" is actually legit. The guy who spread this has written many articles against Israel so are we really to lap up what he said? Of course Haniya can do so. No one will be stopping her or anyone who is in the British Boiler Room demonizing Israel.

 

[Beelzebub]

Israel does best at demonizing Israel.

Of course, "The Zionists" is perfectly correct in this case.

Jonathan Pollard was a Zionist, but not an Israeli.
He only became an Israeli after capture. By which time his new career was "convict".

 

[montelatici]

"Does the spying mean technology is transferred that the US would otherwise not want to share?"

Do we need to repost all the incidents?

"Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China"

Read more: http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/r...s-military-technology-to-china/#ixzz31uGZaAhr
Defense.org

"U.S. Furious With Israel After Sale of Advanced Military Technology to China"

U.S. Furious With Israel After Sale of Advanced Military Technology to China | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

 

[Sally]

Israel does best at demonizing Israel.

Hmm, strange that you don't say that the Muslim countries are demonizing themselves by murdering innocent people in the name of their religion. Perhaps you think it is better just to close your eyes to all the dead bodies lying around because it is more important for you to demonize Israel.

 

[Beelzebub]

That is just your usual whataboutism.

This board is IP. If you want a board for Indonesia and Saudi, you are in the wrong place Sally.

 

[marsnow]

"Does the spying mean technology is transferred that the US would otherwise not want to share?"

Do we need to repost all the incidents?

Apologies, we agree, I was trying to refute the people who believe the Hagel denial or that tit-for tat spying are the norm and so are not a big deal. Your evidence is sound. Bigger and more important was the Israeli nuclear program itself.

 

[marsnow]

Israel does best at demonizing Israel.

Hmm, strange that you don't say that the Muslim countries are demonizing themselves by murdering innocent people in the name of their religion. Perhaps you think it is better just to close your eyes to all the dead bodies lying around because it is more important for you to demonize Israel.

Sally, All religions and countries murder innocent people from their enemies. The question is -- are Israeli actions in the interest of our country, the US? Muslims are not inherently our enemy, visit Dubai if you want to understand better.

 

[Kondor3]

Might be some repercussions now though.
[MENTION=20204]Kondor3[/MENTION] is threatening to cut off aid and ALL JOINT MILITARY EXERCISES with Israel.
Of course, he might just forgive them.

I am sure he will find some excuse to continue supporting the betrayal of America.

Feel free to proceed to blow it out your ass at your earliest convenience,

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So, does that indicate that you approve of the spying?

No.

My post #46 in this series clearly outlines my position.

 

[Sally]

That is just your usual whataboutism.

This board is IP. If you want a board for Indonesia and Saudi, you are in the wrong place Sally.

So true, but could you give the readers an honest answer as to why you don't feel you should be posting on other forums even though tons of people are being killed for their religion. I don't think you will find tons of people being killed in the Israel/Palestine arena, but maybe dead bodies don't matter to you if you can't blame the Jews. By the way, if you are supposed to be a new poster, what is this with your saying "my usual." Now how would you know what I have posted before if you are so new? Are you just an old poster with a new screen name since this happens quite a lot?

 

[Beelzebub]

I DO post on other forums Sally.

You don't think you have my FULL attention, do you?

Sheessh! You are full of assumptions little lady.


I am new here. Not a returner. Is there even a Right of Return on this board?
Even in my short readings of your posts you have written a lot of whataboutery.

 

[Sally]

I DO post on other forums Sally.

You don't think you have my FULL attention, do you?

Sheessh! You are full of assumptions little lady.


I am new here. Not a returner. Is there even a Right of Return on this board?
Even in my short readings of your posts you have written a lot of whataboutery.

Hmm, for someone who just joined in May, you sure appear to have diarrhea of the keyboard when it comes to demonizing Israel. I wonder if the entire British Boiler Room will be dragged over here to keep on with their demonizing of Israel when so much is happening elsewhere in the world. Sad how people feel they have to constantly demonize Israel when innocent people are constantly being murdered in the other Middle East countries and the Muslim world in general. However, keep pounding away against Israel if that is where you get your jollies.

 

[marsnow]

I DO post on other forums Sally.

You don't think you have my FULL attention, do you?

Sheessh! You are full of assumptions little lady.


I am new here. Not a returner. Is there even a Right of Return on this board?
Even in my short readings of your posts you have written a lot of whataboutery.

Hmm, for someone who just joined in May, you sure appear to have diarrhea of the keyboard when it comes to demonizing Israel. I wonder if the entire British Boiler Room will be dragged over here to keep on with their demonizing of Israel when so much is happening elsewhere in the world. Sad how people feel they have to constantly demonize Israel when innocent people are constantly being murdered in the other Middle East countries and the Muslim world in general. However, keep pounding away against Israel if that is where you get your jollies.

As stated previously -- your own stated opposition to war with Iran means you should care deeply about what Israel is up to. No other state -- not even Canada or the UK gets the aid we give to Israel, so yes an American has a right to raise an eyebrow and question if we are getting our moneys worth or will be dragged into their conflicts by proxy.

 

[Sally]

I DO post on other forums Sally.

You don't think you have my FULL attention, do you?

Sheessh! You are full of assumptions little lady.


I am new here. Not a returner. Is there even a Right of Return on this board?
Even in my short readings of your posts you have written a lot of whataboutery.

Hmm, for someone who just joined in May, you sure appear to have diarrhea of the keyboard when it comes to demonizing Israel. I wonder if the entire British Boiler Room will be dragged over here to keep on with their demonizing of Israel when so much is happening elsewhere in the world. Sad how people feel they have to constantly demonize Israel when innocent people are constantly being murdered in the other Middle East countries and the Muslim world in general. However, keep pounding away against Israel if that is where you get your jollies.

As stated previously -- your own stated opposition to war with Iran means you should care deeply about what Israel is up to. No other state -- not even Canada or the UK gets the aid we give to Israel, so yes an American has a right to raise an eyebrow and question if we are getting our moneys worth or will be dragged into their conflicts by proxy.

Gosh, there was once a poster, a retired Naval Intelligence officer, who said that if the people in the U.S. only knew how Israel helped the U.S., they wouldn't begrudge her anything. By the way, since most of the money allocated for Israel has to be spent here in our own defense industry (giving jobs to American workers), surely you must have something to say about all the money we give to people who hate us and where the money lands up in the pocket of some dictator and his cronies. Why not just come out and say that you are just anti-Israel and get it over with?

 

[marsnow]

Hmm, for someone who just joined in May, you sure appear to have diarrhea of the keyboard when it comes to demonizing Israel. I wonder if the entire British Boiler Room will be dragged over here to keep on with their demonizing of Israel when so much is happening elsewhere in the world. Sad how people feel they have to constantly demonize Israel when innocent people are constantly being murdered in the other Middle East countries and the Muslim world in general. However, keep pounding away against Israel if that is where you get your jollies.

As stated previously -- your own stated opposition to war with Iran means you should care deeply about what Israel is up to. No other state -- not even Canada or the UK gets the aid we give to Israel, so yes an American has a right to raise an eyebrow and question if we are getting our moneys worth or will be dragged into their conflicts by proxy.

Gosh, there was once a poster, a retired Naval Intelligence officer, who said that if the people in the U.S. only knew how Israel helped the U.S., they wouldn't begrudge her anything. By the way, since most of the money allocated for Israel has to be spent here in our own defense industry (giving jobs to American workers), surely you must have something to say about all the money we give to people who hate us and where the money lands up in the pocket of some dictator and his cronies. Why not just come out and say that you are just anti-Israel and get it over with?

Gosh, the former head of forces in Iraq General Petraeus said that Israel was a strategic liability. Obviously we are not allowed to discuss or question that liability ever unlike every other ally we have on the planet. I don't give a damn about Israel either way. I care about the interests of one country and one country only -- the USA.

 

[Beelzebub]

Gosh Sally.

I am sure that was an Israeli operative.
The US Navy is about as trusting of Israel as it is of Russia. Maybe less.

Have you never been told to not trust what people tell you about themselves on the net?

(PS: My real name is Netanyahu. Benjamin.)

 

[Sally]

As stated previously -- your own stated opposition to war with Iran means you should care deeply about what Israel is up to. No other state -- not even Canada or the UK gets the aid we give to Israel, so yes an American has a right to raise an eyebrow and question if we are getting our moneys worth or will be dragged into their conflicts by proxy.

Gosh, there was once a poster, a retired Naval Intelligence officer, who said that if the people in the U.S. only knew how Israel helped the U.S., they wouldn't begrudge her anything. By the way, since most of the money allocated for Israel has to be spent here in our own defense industry (giving jobs to American workers), surely you must have something to say about all the money we give to people who hate us and where the money lands up in the pocket of some dictator and his cronies. Why not just come out and say that you are just anti-Israel and get it over with?

Gosh, the former head of forces in Iraq General Petraeus said that Israel was a strategic liability. Obviously we are not allowed to discuss or question that liability ever unlike every other ally we have on the planet. I don't give a damn about Israel either way. I care about the interests of one country and one country only -- the USA.

Then worry about the U.S. giving Pakistan billions of dollars, and their own soldiers giving information to the Taliban which kill American military.

 

[montelatici]

A retired Naval Intelligence officer eh, well it must be true then. Of course what if he really wasn't what he said he was. Do you think even former intelligence officers would allude to classified information on a message board?

 

[marsnow]

Gosh, there was once a poster, a retired Naval Intelligence officer, who said that if the people in the U.S. only knew how Israel helped the U.S., they wouldn't begrudge her anything. By the way, since most of the money allocated for Israel has to be spent here in our own defense industry (giving jobs to American workers), surely you must have something to say about all the money we give to people who hate us and where the money lands up in the pocket of some dictator and his cronies. Why not just come out and say that you are just anti-Israel and get it over with?

Gosh, the former head of forces in Iraq General Petraeus said that Israel was a strategic liability. Obviously we are not allowed to discuss or question that liability ever unlike every other ally we have on the planet. I don't give a damn about Israel either way. I care about the interests of one country and one country only -- the USA.

Then worry about the U.S. giving Pakistan billions of dollars, and their own soldiers giving information to the Taliban which kill American military.

Agreed. We should withdraw aid from Pakistan and Israel jointly. Would only be fair. Lets allow our superior naval, air and space technology keep tabs on everyone. This would allow a natural balance of power to occur.

No more land wars in Asia.

 

[Sally]

Gosh Sally.

I am sure that was an Israeli operative.
The US Navy is about as trusting of Israel as it is of Russia. Maybe less.

Have you never been told to not trust what people tell you about themselves on the net?

(PS: My real name is Netanyahu. Benjamin.)

Have you ever thought that since my own husband is retired Navy, we happened to meet this poster out here when he was on his way to play golf with a buddy. Lots of golf courses on military bases. Are you sure you name isn't Arafat Jr.?