JWBooth
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was this before or after the royal marines seized a tanker carrying Iranian crude in the Med?
U.S. Forces begin moving into Saudi Arabia.
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RealDave
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So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
RealDave
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Mu opinion coinsides with many experts in the Middle East.So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
Yours coincides with a fat assed orange liar & cheat
Mindful
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Mu opinion coinsides with many experts in the Middle East.So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
Yours coincides with a fat assed orange liar & cheat
Oh yes, that old canard. Experts.
RealDave
Gold Member
- Sep 28, 2016
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There actually people that study these things & understand how these various country's people think& how theor governments work. I guess we should ignore these & just trusty Trump's gut.Mu opinion coinsides with many experts in the Middle East.So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
Yours coincides with a fat assed orange liar & cheat
Oh yes, that old canard. Experts.
So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
There actually people that study these things & understand how these various country's people think& how theor governments work. I guess we should ignore these & just trusty Trump's gut.Mu opinion coinsides with many experts in the Middle East.So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
Yours coincides with a fat assed orange liar & cheat
Oh yes, that old canard. Experts.
DA EXPERTS------gawd help us. Of course Trump has no
smart advisors--------I am an expert Dave----feel free to ask
questions-----I have interacted with Iranians, Yemenis and----a limited
number of Saudis-----feel free to ask questions
Mindful
Diamond Member
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There actually people that study these things & understand how these various country's people think& how theor governments work. I guess we should ignore these & just trusty Trump's gut.Mu opinion coinsides with many experts in the Middle East.So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
you are entitled to your idiot opinion
Yours coincides with a fat assed orange liar & cheat
Oh yes, that old canard. Experts.
Good advice.
The twerps and tosspots who run things.
kyzr
Diamond Member
If you mean that the Sauds buy $billions of military hardware from the US I agree. Otherwise I have no clue what you mean.
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[paste:font size="6"]Trump’s better deal with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
Trump has repeatedly urged Iran to negotiate, saying that Tehran’s nuclear ambitions are his chief concern, talking points that experts say echo the 2015 deal.
By NAHAL TOOSI
07/17/2019 05:05 AM EDT
warn that the existing deal is nearly extinct, Trump may feel like he is backed into a corner and running out of options.
“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”
The administration’s confusing messaging is a result of warring between two major factions, U.S. officials say, with Trump in his own separate lane. The infighting has been deeply frustrating to those involved in the debate. “In the past, even when I personally disagreed with a policy, I could explain its logic,” a U.S. official said. “Now I can’t even do that.”
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Trump quit the nuclear deal in May 2018, reimposing sanctions the U.S. had lifted on Iran in exchange for curbs on its nuclear program. He said the deal should have tackled Iran’s non-nuclear activities, such as its sponsorship of terrorist groups, and blasted the expiration dates on some of its clauses.
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For a year afterward, Iran continued to abide by the deal’s terms, hoping that the other countries involved — Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia — could offer Tehran the economic relief Trump had taken away. But as that relief has failed to materialize, Iran has begun backing away from its commitments.
Tehran recently breached limits on its enrichment and stockpiling of uranium and has promised more infractions in the coming months. The U.S. has also accused Iran of attacking several international oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, and the Pentagon has sent warships and more troops to the region in response.
As tensions have spiked, one voice pushing for a deal has been Trump.
He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.
To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.
“They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."
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Trump occasionally nods to other disputes with Iran, such as its funding of militia groups, ballistic missile testing and Tehran’s support of rebel forces in Yemen, but nuclear weapons dominate his rhetoric.
In June, Jackie Wolcott, the U.S. ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency — the body that inspects Iran’s nuclear program under the 2015 agreement — called on Iran to stick to the deal after an IAEA inspection report detailed a disputed potential violation.
“Iran has claimed that it continues to comply with the JCPOA, but it is now reported to be in clear violation of the deal,” Wolcott said, referring to the agreement’s official name, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. “This should be of great concern to all of us. The United States calls on Iran to return to compliance without delay.”
Afterward, State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus faced questions about why the U.S. wants Iran to adhere to a deal that it has claimed doesn’t truly constrain its nuclear ambitions.
“I don’t think it’s contradictory in the fact that we have stated very loudly since the beginning of this administration that we do not want the Iranian regime to get a nuclear weapon,” Ortagus said. “We think it would be disastrous for the Middle East. I — we haven’t changed our position.”
In a statement to POLITICO, a State Department official called the JCPOA “a flawed deal because it did not permanently address our concerns with respect to Iran’s nuclear program and destabilizing conduct. The U.S. is seeking a deal with Iran that comprehensively addresses the regime’s destabilizing behavior — not just their nuclear program, but also their missile program, support to terrorism, and malign regional behavior.”
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Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place. Some said they were not surprised that Iran may have taken actions in the Persian Gulf as payback for the U.S. abandonment of the deal.
Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”
Zarif tweeted on July 8. "There’s a way out, but not with #B_Team in charge.”
The way out Zarif mentions? Presumably a U.S. return to the 2015 nuclear deal.
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OldLady
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Who said Saudi Arabia gave weapons to ISIS? I've heard that a hundred times, but where is that accusation coming from? Our intelligence agencies investigated and found that Iran was supplying direct aid to terrorists. They do not seem to have found that the Saudi kingdom did.
Just a link would be appreciated.
SweetTea
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So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
You are living in a fantasy world created by lefists. It is the same school of thought that supports the theory that supports the idiotic idea that terrorists are terrorists due to poverty. Remember the former Obama dimwit "expert" adviser who said we just need to find them decent jobs? Liberals think and live like eternal 19 year old, hippy, emotionally immature college kids. If you are still a liberal and over 30, your brain stopped maturing far too early.
Mindful
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So you are intelligent./ An illegal treaty???? Really? It was an agreement.I love watching people who have no clue what they are talking about try to pass themselves off as intelligent...
The IRCG is an official terrorist group, a highly militarized terrorist group that has personnel, along with proxies, in every nation in the gulf region.
They have attacked and attempted to seize 6 international ships now and have successfully captured another 2. These acts are official International crimes according to the U.N.
They have attacked U.S. allies, seized 2 of their ships, and have taken hostages, all evidently acceptable to Trump-hating snowflakes who supported Barry's violation of the US Constitution, specifically the Separation of Powers Act, when he illegally negotiated his own treaty with Iran...
20% of the world's oil that affects the world's economy flows through the straight that is only 20 miles across, the shipping lane being only 2 miles wide, at its narrowest point...and Iran has demonstrated it is intent on holding the world hostage until it gets what it wants....
...and moronic, treasonous, Trump-hating snowflakes are defending Iran's actions just to blame / attack Trump.
These same idiots act like Iran's hostile actions are something new, that Obama has won them over with his illegal treaty.
During the negotiations with Barry the Iranians mocked him, their military practiced bombing our aircraft carriers, and their lead them in chants of 'Death To America' ... Meanwhile their troops continued to kill Americans in Iraq.
The hostilities against the US by Iran and our allies are not new under Trump but escalated and more public.
We had Iran where we needed them to be. Under a no nuke agreement & giving the Iranians a taste of life without sanctions. This would steer the younger generations to make Iran a more accepted country in the world.
But nooooooo.
You stupid ***** elected Trump who knows NOTHING about the Middle East or Iran .
He ruined what Obama & 4 of our allies created & put Iranian relations back 20 years.
You people are such assfucks. You are destroying America with your ignorance & stupidity.
You are living in a fantasy world created by lefists. It is the same school of thought that supports the theory that supports the idiotic idea that terrorists are terrorists due to poverty. Remember the former Obama dimwit "expert" adviser who said we just need to find them decent jobs? Liberals think and live like eternal 19 year old, hippy, emotionally immature college kids. If you are still a liberal and over 30, your brain stopped maturing far too early.
We are living in strange times.
Have almost regressed to tribal. The days of sitting around a table to bring about consensus seem long gone.
Now we have hatred of ones own country, as well as others. And the urge for appeasment to 'difficult' nations.
eagle1462010
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Riddle me this. What Strategic advantage do we gain by allowing Iran to attack Saudi Arabia on 4 fronts? Yemen, Syria, and now Southern Iraq.
Riddle me this. What advantage do we gain by backing Saudi Arabia who is a main stay in the world for control of Oil prices? In the same question......a hint.......Our currency is tied to what?
Riddle me this. What advantage do we gain by allowing Shit-ite control of the region? Who now have strong holds in Iran, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestinian territory via PROXY?
Finally........What advantage do we gain by allowing Iran selling more oil that uses it to fund weapons and personnel to the same areas of my last riddle?
eagle1462010
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How quickly some forget. That Sanctions began under Obama for Chemical attacks against civilians in Syria. These sanctions were UN approved and the sanctions continue to prevent Assad from using Chemical weapons in Syria.
Part of those economic sanctions are fuel restrictions on Assad. Britain, the EU, the U.S. enforce those sanctions and Iran was in violation of those sanctions.
eagle1462010
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Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act - Wikipedia
Of 2019[edit]
Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019 (HR 31) has passed the House in January 22, 2019, and is currently in the Senate.[1]
This version did not include investigating military means of protecting civilians. H.R. 31 was amended by the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on June 3, 2019 to include congressional briefings by the President of military means meant to protect civilians, and obtaining data from organizations and countries in relation to Syria.
Of 2016[edit]
The Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2016 was a long-waited act drafted by the United States Congress by both Democrats and Republicans during a lame duck session sanctioning the Syrian government.[2] On November 15, 2016, it passed the House unanimously as The Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act (HR 5732).[3] This bipartisan legislation would have imposed new sanctions upon the Syrian government.
This version of legislation would also have required the U.S president to report to Congress on the prospects for a no-fly zone in Syria. The bill would have authorized the Secretary of State to support entities that are collecting and preserving evidence for the eventual prosecution of those who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in Syria from March 2011 to the present, and would have required the President to report to Congress on the names of those who are responsible for or complicit in gross violations of human rights of the Syrian people.[4]
Of 2019[edit]
Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019 (HR 31) has passed the House in January 22, 2019, and is currently in the Senate.[1]
This version did not include investigating military means of protecting civilians. H.R. 31 was amended by the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on June 3, 2019 to include congressional briefings by the President of military means meant to protect civilians, and obtaining data from organizations and countries in relation to Syria.
Of 2016[edit]
The Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2016 was a long-waited act drafted by the United States Congress by both Democrats and Republicans during a lame duck session sanctioning the Syrian government.[2] On November 15, 2016, it passed the House unanimously as The Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act (HR 5732).[3] This bipartisan legislation would have imposed new sanctions upon the Syrian government.
This version of legislation would also have required the U.S president to report to Congress on the prospects for a no-fly zone in Syria. The bill would have authorized the Secretary of State to support entities that are collecting and preserving evidence for the eventual prosecution of those who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in Syria from March 2011 to the present, and would have required the President to report to Congress on the names of those who are responsible for or complicit in gross violations of human rights of the Syrian people.[4]
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