U.S. debt tops $38 trillion for the first time, worsened by government shutdown

[HikerGuy83]

Does it really matter?

I think it matters that we are accurate here.

This is a huge mess and it's important we talk about what is real.

You’re whistling past the graveyard.

You are wrong there.

I have been screaming about this for years.

Back when Obama ran up the first trillion dollar deficit I was going crazy.

When Cheney said "deficits don't matter", I lost it. I really used to be a big supporter of his.

We are in big trouble.

But I think you need to be clear on what is real.

We need spending cuts. I offered up a suggested plan that was published by the CBO even though I still don't understand the numbers they tout.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Obozo doubled the debt in 8 years

He did.

But his deficit his last year was about 1/2 trillion.

Trump immediately started increasing them.

Then COVID hit and they went huge for two years.

And Biden was 1.5 trillion+ his last 3 years in office.

In 2000 if you had told me we would hit 38 trillion, I'd tell you that you were insane.

 

[sparky]

Just what is revaluation? What would it look like?

going to digital currency Hiker......it was something Trump was against originally, and flipped on shortly after assuming office, after his go around with the Fed

It's been 5th page news ever since.......

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[Darlo kittu]

He did.

But his deficit his last year was about 1/2 trillion.

Trump immediately started increasing them.

Then COVID hit and they went huge for two years.

And Biden was 1.5 trillion+ his last 3 years in office.

In 2000 if you had told me we would hit 38 trillion, I'd tell you that you were insane.

And no matter who is in the Oval Office all I hear is how under funded, under staffed the government is. Federal Judges interfere from cutting the government.

 

[HikerGuy83]

going to digital currency Hiker......it was something Trump was against originally, and flipped on shortly after assuming office, after his go around with the Fed

It's been 5th page news ever since.......
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I am completely lost on what you are talking about.

What is this supposed to look like.

If everything suddenly doubles, then the debt doubles too.

If that does not happen, then you've just created a huge loss of buying power for everyone who holds savings.

 

[HikerGuy83]

And no matter who is in the Oval Office all I hear is how under funded, under staffed the government is. Federal Judges interfere from cutting the government.

This is true and needs to be documented.

 

[leftwinger]

Obozo doubled the debt in 8 years

It was even more than doubled. They played funny math to fund stimulus and charge $1T to GWB out-going. Debt was ~$9,5T in 08. Congress under Obiden 1.0 institutionalized $1.6T every year on auto-pilot under the CR. No budgets. After him, Congress just kept the ball rolling as-is.

 

[Darlo kittu]

It was even more than doubled. They played funny math to fund stimulus and charge $+T to GWB out-going. Debt was ~$9,5T in 08. Congress under Obiden 1.0 institutionalized $1.6T every year on auto-pilot under the CR. No budgets. After him, Congress just kept the ball rolling as-is.

And Obozocare is piling on the debt

 

[leftwinger]

They fund all BS knowing fraud is 10% 20%? Then a percentage is granted back to their "re-election" fund or private accounts. They pay the media to stream support and call everything a false like dirty WIKI or Leftst SNOPES.

They know they have engineered total collapse, yet they ramp it up hoping to build a personal fortress before it all crumbles down. Stain are so stupid they cheer for it. Thinking deep state cares for them?

 

[sealybobo]

Talk about SPENDING ONLY! Taxation is a nonstarter because we've all seen over the past 60 years that the clowns can't ******* stop spending.

Boy did they pull one over on you. Instead of taxing you, they tariffed you. And Trump brags about how much money he's raking in on tariffs.

 

[leftwinger]

And Obozocare is piling on the debt

Dirty R Congress just voted for 3 more years subsides without cleaning up or mentioning the amount of fraud in the registrations for ACA subsidies.//

 

[sealybobo]

And Obozocare is piling on the debt

Don't worry. We will take the ACA off the debt and just raise your healthcare costs.

Yes, healthcare premiums are rising significantly in 2026, especially for those on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces and employer-sponsored plans, primarily driven by expiring federal subsidies (enhanced premium tax credits), increased healthcare utilization, inflation, higher drug costs (like GLP-1s), and labor shortages, leading to potentially much higher out-of-pocket costs unless Congress acts to extend subsidies.

Even my healthcare costs went up and I have employer provided insurance. EVERYONE'S healthcare costs are going up. Because of Trump and this Republican government we have. No?

 

[Darlo kittu]

Don't worry. We will take the ACA off the debt and just raise your healthcare costs.

Yes, healthcare premiums are rising significantly in 2026, especially for those on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces and employer-sponsored plans, primarily driven by expiring federal subsidies (enhanced premium tax credits), increased healthcare utilization, inflation, higher drug costs (like GLP-1s), and labor shortages, leading to potentially much higher out-of-pocket costs unless Congress acts to extend subsidies.

Even my healthcare costs went up and I have employer provided insurance. EVERYONE'S healthcare costs are going up. Because of Trump and this Republican government we have. No?

Could you please tell me what is affordable about Obozocare?

 

[leftwinger]

 

[leftwinger]

Maddeni g. Sickening g Uniparty Congress is the problem, always a problem.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Don't worry. We will take the ACA off the debt and just raise your healthcare costs.

Yes, healthcare premiums are rising significantly in 2026, especially for those on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces and employer-sponsored plans, primarily driven by expiring federal subsidies (enhanced premium tax credits), increased healthcare utilization, inflation, higher drug costs (like GLP-1s), and labor shortages, leading to potentially much higher out-of-pocket costs unless Congress acts to extend subsidies.

Even my healthcare costs went up and I have employer provided insurance. EVERYONE'S healthcare costs are going up. Because of Trump and this Republican government we have. No?

I look at your posts from time to time (you are on ignore).

Costs are costs.

That you have to pay more of them isn't the problem.

Obamacare never controlled costs like it said it would is the problem.

If you don't pay the cost, your subsidies do.

Where do those subsidies come from? Your children will be paying for them since we don't want to and can kick this down the road.

Wake up and become an adult.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Honestly, why are we even worried about "millions".

The debt is in the trillions. And we'll only get places by cutting out billions.

 

[leftwinger]

Honestly, why are we even worried about "millions".

The debt is in the trillions. And we'll only get places by cutting out billions.

OK. It was $93B in the next approval posted today. Is that enough? And funding the corrupt garbage helps hide or shield the bigger frauds.

10% of spending stolen or wasted is $170B. Where is it going? It adds up. Then there are states like CA stealing $10s of billions from a bullet train 25 year study going on.

 

[HikerGuy83]

OK. It was $93B in the next approval posted today. Is that enough? And funding the corrupt garbage helps hide or shield the bigger frauds.

10% of spending stolen or wasted is $170B. Where is it going? It adds up. Then there are states like CA stealing $10s of billions from a bullet train 25 year study going on.

Yes, that is the kind of thing I am talking about.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[sealybobo]

Could you please tell me what is affordable about Obozocare?

My friend doesn't have a real job. He used to work for circus OLE. I'm not going to bother trying to spell it correctly. Today, he teaches boys how to pick girls up on the ice. Figure skaters. How much do you think that pays? It pays $100 a day. Not a lot. You believe in God right? Thank GOD someone showed the dumb bastard how to sign up for free Obamacare. He got prostate cancer a year later.

What would have happened to him if he didn't have it? You don't care. Because you are a good christian piggy.