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That's true--however, when a LEO asks for proof of citizenship..it's an official act..a bit more than 'having a conversation'. In truth..I find the reactions of people to this act more of a threat...than the actual act. The Officer was a bit out of line..not exactly a fascist--just over-zealous....but the fervor of the right winger's defense says something ugly.This more of your "small" government Constitutional conservatism?
Ahhh, yes. The old "you want small government, therefore you HAVE to believe all government activity is wrong" argument.
Too bad for you that enforcing the border is actually a proper function of government, regardless of whether or not I think THIS guy was right or wrong.
These people were not at the border, they were in the country making a purchase at a store
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Got good news and bad, Montana is a border state...and they have stores at the border.
So. In your little police state, just being in a state on the border is sufficient cause ask people to show their papers?
I bet you do one hell of a goose step
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Oh, WILL you please switch to decaf? Having a conversation with someone is NOT a "police state".
Such is the reprehensible right, attempting to defend the indefensible.
It is illegal to speak Spanish in Montana?
Did anyone say it was?
Well, if it isn't then why were they detained?
He then denied that the women had been racially profiled.
“It has nothing to do with that,” the agent said in the clip. “It’s the fact that it has to do with you guys speaking Spanish in the store ― in a state where it’s predominantly English-speaking.”
If all else fails, read the link.
So, speaking Spanish is now considered probable cause? Obviously for this officer it was, but will his decision stand?
No, 35 seconds isnt enough time to determine if they are legal residents. I think anything up to a fews hours is appropriate.Detention for 35 seconds was unwarranted.Explain the 35 minute detention....all based on speaking Spanish.....It's so funny to watch trumpanzees willing to go to the wall for their precious guns, but give up their other freedoms so willingly.There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shitYet you decide to highlight the whole 35 minutes spent in the parking lot...dumbass.
Demanding ID's and detaining them is not "talking to them" you despicable ****.Educate yourself, troglodyte:What rights were actually violated? I wasn't aware ANYONE had a right to never be spoken to by law enforcement.
Search and Seizure and the Fourth Amendment - FindLaw
U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment - FindLaw
Why don't you share with me what was "searched" or "seized" by talking to them? Hell, show me IN YOUR OWN LINKS where their 4th Amendment rights were violated. As far as I can tell, they weren't arrested OR detained. They were just spoken to.
Please show me where they were "detained" by any legal definition. They quite frankly could have told him no and walked away, had they wanted to. Stop overreacting.
NONSENSE - They were NOT free to walk away and might have even been shot in the back.
Walk a mile in their shoes at some point - If not in this life, maybe the next.
That's true--however, when a LEO asks for proof of citizenship..it's an official act..a bit more than 'having a conversation'. In truth..I find the reactions of people to this act more of a threat...than the actual act. The Officer was a bit out of line..not exactly a fascist--just over-zealous....but the fervor of the right winger's defense says something ugly.Ahhh, yes. The old "you want small government, therefore you HAVE to believe all government activity is wrong" argument.
Too bad for you that enforcing the border is actually a proper function of government, regardless of whether or not I think THIS guy was right or wrong.
These people were not at the border, they were in the country making a purchase at a store
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Got good news and bad, Montana is a border state...and they have stores at the border.
So. In your little police state, just being in a state on the border is sufficient cause ask people to show their papers?
I bet you do one hell of a goose step
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Oh, WILL you please switch to decaf? Having a conversation with someone is NOT a "police state".
No, 35 seconds isnt enough time to determine if they are legal residents. I think anything up to a fews hours is appropriate.Detention for 35 seconds was unwarranted.Explain the 35 minute detention....all based on speaking Spanish.....It's so funny to watch trumpanzees willing to go to the wall for their precious guns, but give up their other freedoms so willingly.There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shit
The "Papers Please" argument didn't work out well for Shuriff Joe .. had it not been for his pardon by the Orange Menace, he'd be in jail right now.
That's true--however, when a LEO asks for proof of citizenship..it's an official act..a bit more than 'having a conversation'. In truth..I find the reactions of people to this act more of a threat...than the actual act. The Officer was a bit out of line..not exactly a fascist--just over-zealous....but the fervor of the right winger's defense says something ugly.These people were not at the border, they were in the country making a purchase at a store
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Got good news and bad, Montana is a border state...and they have stores at the border.
So. In your little police state, just being in a state on the border is sufficient cause ask people to show their papers?
I bet you do one hell of a goose step
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Oh, WILL you please switch to decaf? Having a conversation with someone is NOT a "police state".
Sorry, but it's still just a conversation. Yes, he's having it in his official capacity as an officer, but that changes nothing about your legal rights in the situation, which ARE still to walk away if you choose to. If you choose instead to feel intimidated and "detained", that's on you, not him.
Furthermore, the only "fervor" here is the left's desire to turn this into some apocalyptic tale of "the dark night of Nazism", and to see the very mild, reasonable response of "You're overreacting" as a defense of the guy. Speaking of over-zealous . . .
The fact that you think this was in the 'execution of their duties' tells us all we need to know about the extent of your brain power.And fucktards like you cry like little bitches because you think the Obama is going to take your precious bam-sticks, but don't give two shits about other rights.Americans have freedom in this country. Illegals do not. Legals can speak whatever language they want. Illegals need to go home and speak whatever language they want.
See how that works?
These were citizens. Stopping someone for speaking Spanish is not probable cause no matter whether they are legal or not.
Did they have a stamp on their forehead saying so? Then how is he to know without investigating? And just because you are a citizen doesn't mean you are not up to no good. Guess you never heard of homegrown terrorists either. You assholes whine all day long about protection (like grabbing guns) but you never seem to realize that with that comes loss of liberty.
What right do you whine about? The right not to be offended by every little thing? The right not to live life triggered? The right not to cooperate with LEOs in any way possible without giving them shit? The right not to be stopped and questioned by authorities in the execution of their duties?
That's true--however, when a LEO asks for proof of citizenship..it's an official act..a bit more than 'having a conversation'. In truth..I find the reactions of people to this act more of a threat...than the actual act. The Officer was a bit out of line..not exactly a fascist--just over-zealous....but the fervor of the right winger's defense says something ugly.Got good news and bad, Montana is a border state...and they have stores at the border.
So. In your little police state, just being in a state on the border is sufficient cause ask people to show their papers?
I bet you do one hell of a goose step
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Oh, WILL you please switch to decaf? Having a conversation with someone is NOT a "police state".
Sorry, but it's still just a conversation. Yes, he's having it in his official capacity as an officer, but that changes nothing about your legal rights in the situation, which ARE still to walk away if you choose to. If you choose instead to feel intimidated and "detained", that's on you, not him.
Furthermore, the only "fervor" here is the left's desire to turn this into some apocalyptic tale of "the dark night of Nazism", and to see the very mild, reasonable response of "You're overreacting" as a defense of the guy. Speaking of over-zealous . . .
So the officer asks for your ID and takes it. Do you just walk away without your ID? As soon as he tales possession of your document(s), you are effectively being detained.
OMG OMG OMG not that?!?!!U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
...and you believe them?U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
This more of your "small" government Constitutional conservatism?
Ahhh, yes. The old "you want small government, therefore you HAVE to believe all government activity is wrong" argument.
Too bad for you that enforcing the border is actually a proper function of government, regardless of whether or not I think THIS guy was right or wrong.
This more of your "small" government Constitutional conservatism?
Ahhh, yes. The old "you want small government, therefore you HAVE to believe all government activity is wrong" argument.
No, I would think any violation of the Bill of Rights would qualify, particularly from people constantly screaming about how they are the real Constitutional party and that it's the left is chipping away at our rights.
Too bad for you that enforcing the border is actually a proper function of government, regardless of whether or not I think THIS guy was right or wrong.
Too bad for you bigotry is not border enforcement. Someone speaking another language, in a country that is a melting pot where pretty much every language in the world is spoken, does not qualify as probably cause.
Once again you assclowns defend an ever encroaching police state while you scream about your gun rights, and religious rights, and educational rights getting violated. You're very selective in your defense of the Constitution, but like I said, anything to keep brown people out of the country.
^ The Trump sheep immediately defends scrapping rights for U.S. citizensU.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
That’s not the point, dipshit. Two US citizens were racially profiled and detained for speaking Spanish after providing proof of citizenship. And this happened in the United States at a store in Montana.Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
Do you rinse after licking boots, or do you enjoy the taste?
Little things...like gun registration.OMG OMG OMG not that?!?!!U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
There are 44 Murders per day and 232 Rapes per day in America and Left Wingers are obsessed with little things.
Libs have a really warped sense of priorities.
An understandable error.U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Unless you can show me the officer having any evidentiary suspicion that they were engaged in criminal activity there was no cause for asking for ID or holding themDetention for 35 seconds was unwarranted.Explain the 35 minute detention....all based on speaking Spanish.....It's so funny to watch trumpanzees willing to go to the wall for their precious guns, but give up their other freedoms so willingly.There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shitYet you decide to highlight the whole 35 minutes spent in the parking lot...dumbass.
Unless you can show me that officer telling those women they couldn't leave, there was no "detention".
Unless you can show me the officer having any evidentiary suspicion that they were engaged in criminal activity there was no cause for asking for ID or holding themDetention for 35 seconds was unwarranted.Explain the 35 minute detention....all based on speaking Spanish.....It's so funny to watch trumpanzees willing to go to the wall for their precious guns, but give up their other freedoms so willingly.There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shit
Unless you can show me that officer telling those women they couldn't leave, there was no "detention".
