U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’

[bodecea]

U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’

Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.

Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.

The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.

Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.

I commend the agent. His job is to investigate anything out of the ordinary to be proactive and these people speaking in a foreign tongue was enough to just take a look into to make sure it was nothing. Had those people been terrorists planning on planting a bomb and the agent passed them by dismissing them, then you'd be on here ranting how our national security sucks!

Feel free to keep bending over like that.

No worries. I generally don't speak Spanish.

Same kind of comment I hear from those willing to give up on their gun rights....."No worries. I generally don't own or use guns."

 

[danielpalos]

U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’

Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.

Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.

The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.

Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.

All foreign nationals in the US should be provided with a federal id; simply for being in the US. A fine or a fee, can make that happen on a permanent basis via applied Capitalism.

 

[toobfreak]

Next time speak English. See if that resolves the problem...

That is exactly what a Nazi would say. We have something called freedom in this country. That means you can speak any language you want.

Americans have freedom in this country. Illegals do not. Legals can speak whatever language they want. Illegals need to go home and speak whatever language they want.
See how that works?

These were citizens. Stopping someone for speaking Spanish is not probable cause no matter whether they are legal or not.

Did they have a stamp on their forehead saying so? Then how is he to know without investigating? And just because you are a citizen doesn't mean you are not up to no good. Guess you never heard of homegrown terrorists either. You assholes whine all day long about protection (like grabbing guns) but you never seem to realize that with that comes loss of liberty.

 

[DrLove]

It is illegal to speak Spanish in Montana?

Did anyone say it was?

Well, if it isn't then why were they detained?

 

[CHAZBUKOWSKI]

You should go see a doctor about that burst blood vessel.

Anyway, bootlicker, they didn’t “walk into America”; they’re American citizens.

You are the one having a cow over nothing....what a stupid thread...when a person is crossing the border they are foreigners until they produce a passport showing they are citizens....tell ya what go find an introductory message board this one is a bit over your ball licking head....

What!?!? Did you even read the article? These people were NOT crossing the border. They are U.S. citizens who were at a store, miles away from the border, when they were detained for speaking Spanish.

 

[Cecilie1200]

^ The Trump sheep immediately defends scrapping rights for U.S. citizens

Rights are only for white people.

What rights were actually violated? I wasn't aware ANYONE had a right to never be spoken to by law enforcement.

Educate yourself, troglodyte:
Search and Seizure and the Fourth Amendment - FindLaw
U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment - FindLaw

Why don't you share with me what was "searched" or "seized" by talking to them? Hell, show me IN YOUR OWN LINKS where their 4th Amendment rights were violated. As far as I can tell, they weren't arrested OR detained. They were just spoken to.

Demanding ID's and detaining them is not "talking to them" you despicable ****.

Please show me where they were "detained" by any legal definition. They quite frankly could have told him no and walked away, had they wanted to. Stop overreacting.

 

[CHAZBUKOWSKI]

Next time speak English. See if that resolves the problem...

That is exactly what a Nazi would say. We have something called freedom in this country. That means you can speak any language you want.

Americans have freedom in this country. Illegals do not. Legals can speak whatever language they want. Illegals need to go home and speak whatever language they want.
See how that works?

These were citizens. Stopping someone for speaking Spanish is not probable cause no matter whether they are legal or not.

Did they have a stamp on their forehead saying so? Then how is he to know without investigating? And just because you are a citizen doesn't mean you are not up to no good. Guess you never heard of homegrown terrorists either. You assholes whine all day long about protection (like grabbing guns) but you never seem to realize that with that comes loss of liberty.

And fucktards like you cry like little bitches because you think the Obama is going to take your precious bam-sticks, but don't give two shits about other rights.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is illegal to speak Spanish in Montana?

Did anyone say it was?

Well, if it isn't then why were they detained?

Show me where they were "detained". FYI, conversing with them is not "detaining". Detaining would require him to indicate that they were not free to leave at any time. Did I miss the part where that happened?

 

[danielpalos]

Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.

That’s not the point, dipshit. Two US citizens were racially profiled and detained for speaking Spanish after providing proof af citizenship. And this happened in the United States at a store in Montana.

Do you rinse after licking boots, or do you enjoy the taste?

Yet you decide to highlight the whole 35 minutes spent in the parking lot...dumbass.

Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shit

There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.

How much will that, socialism on a national basis, cost? And, Prohibition has Never worked, in the entire history of our Republic. We have a Statue of Liberty and allege to subscribe to the concept of natural rights.

All foreign nationals in the US should be issued a federal id, to conduct business with our federal Judiciary.

We could be generating revenue from each and every foreign national wanting to engage in tourism in the US. A fee or fine can make that happen on a permanent basis via applied capitalism.

Immigration requires an application for citizenship and getting in line, with everyone else.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You should go see a doctor about that burst blood vessel.

Anyway, bootlicker, they didn’t “walk into America”; they’re American citizens.

You are the one having a cow over nothing....what a stupid thread...when a person is crossing the border they are foreigners until they produce a passport showing they are citizens....tell ya what go find an introductory message board this one is a bit over your ball licking head....

What!?!? Did you even read the article? These people were NOT crossing the border. They are U.S. citizens who were at a store, miles away from the border, when they were detained for speaking Spanish.

Again, as far as I can tell, they were SPOKEN TO, which is not "detained". If you jackasses are going to get your panties in a ruffle and toss around legal terms, you might try using them correctly.

 

[Thinker101]

It is illegal to speak Spanish in Montana?

Did anyone say it was?

Well, if it isn't then why were they detained?

He then denied that the women had been racially profiled.

“It has nothing to do with that,” the agent said in the clip. “It’s the fact that it has to do with you guys speaking Spanish in the store ― in a state where it’s predominantly English-speaking.”

If all else fails, read the link.

 

[toobfreak]

U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’

Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.

Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.

The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.

Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.

I commend the agent. His job is to investigate anything out of the ordinary to be proactive and these people speaking in a foreign tongue was enough to just take a look into to make sure it was nothing. Had those people been terrorists planning on planting a bomb and the agent passed them by dismissing them, then you'd be on here ranting how our national security sucks!

You would. Interesting how when we talk about the 2nd Amendment, people like you demand full fealty to the Constitution. Now you say that violating the Constitution is okay. Speaking in a foreign tongue is not probable cause. Had they been committing a crime, any charges would have been thrown out due to the violation of their Constitutional rights.

No one violated the Constitution. Whatever constitutes unusual behavior to a LEO is probable cause to investigate. You libs are always triggered about something. See that zipper on the back of your head? Open it and try massaging a little common sense into your brain.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Next time speak English. See if that resolves the problem...

That is exactly what a Nazi would say. We have something called freedom in this country. That means you can speak any language you want.

Americans have freedom in this country. Illegals do not. Legals can speak whatever language they want. Illegals need to go home and speak whatever language they want.
See how that works?

These were citizens. Stopping someone for speaking Spanish is not probable cause no matter whether they are legal or not.

Did they have a stamp on their forehead saying so? Then how is he to know without investigating? And just because you are a citizen doesn't mean you are not up to no good. Guess you never heard of homegrown terrorists either. You assholes whine all day long about protection (like grabbing guns) but you never seem to realize that with that comes loss of liberty.

And fucktards like you cry like little bitches because you think the Obama is going to take your precious bam-sticks, but don't give two shits about other rights.

We give lots of shits about rights. Unfortunately for you, none of the crap you dumbasses squawk about is ever an actual RIGHT.

 

[toobfreak]

U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’

Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.

Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.

The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.

Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.

I commend the agent. His job is to investigate anything out of the ordinary to be proactive and these people speaking in a foreign tongue was enough to just take a look into to make sure it was nothing. Had those people been terrorists planning on planting a bomb and the agent passed them by dismissing them, then you'd be on here ranting how our national security sucks!

Feel free to keep bending over like that.

No worries. I generally don't speak Spanish.

Same kind of comment I hear from those willing to give up on their gun rights....."No worries. I generally don't own or use guns."

If you think I'm not 101% pro 2nd Amendment, then you're really stupid.

 

[CHAZBUKOWSKI]

You should go see a doctor about that burst blood vessel.

Anyway, bootlicker, they didn’t “walk into America”; they’re American citizens.

You are the one having a cow over nothing....what a stupid thread...when a person is crossing the border they are foreigners until they produce a passport showing they are citizens....tell ya what go find an introductory message board this one is a bit over your ball licking head....

What!?!? Did you even read the article? These people were NOT crossing the border. They are U.S. citizens who were at a store, miles away from the border, when they were detained for speaking Spanish.

Again, as far as I can tell, they were SPOKEN TO, which is not "detained". If you jackasses are going to get your panties in a ruffle and toss around legal terms, you might try using them correctly.

I notice you don't present that argument to the fucktards who are saying they have a right to question and DETAIN, anybody, anywhere (see below quote). Plus, the U.S. citizen in this situation states that she was not allowed to leave the parking lot for 35 minutes, which, if true, fits the legal definition of detainment.

The border patrol has the right and the duty to detain anyone they find suspicious in any way...now go cry to people that give a rip...America is no longer open to illegal aliens...those days are over so you and Pelosi will have to get new voters the old fashion way...earn them...

 

[toobfreak]

You should go see a doctor about that burst blood vessel.

Anyway, bootlicker, they didn’t “walk into America”; they’re American citizens.

You are the one having a cow over nothing....what a stupid thread...when a person is crossing the border they are foreigners until they produce a passport showing they are citizens....tell ya what go find an introductory message board this one is a bit over your ball licking head....

What!?!? Did you even read the article? These people were NOT crossing the border. They are U.S. citizens who were at a store, miles away from the border, when they were detained for speaking Spanish.

Again, as far as I can tell, they were SPOKEN TO, which is not "detained". If you jackasses are going to get your panties in a ruffle and toss around legal terms, you might try using them correctly.

They were held over long enough to run their IDs to confirm their stories. Big deal.

 

[DrLove]

He then denied that the women had been racially profiled.

“It has nothing to do with that,” the agent said in the clip. “It’s the fact that it has to do with you guys speaking Spanish in the store ― in a state where it’s predominantly English-speaking.”

If all else fails, read the link.

Yes, I read the link and watched the video. Indeed, the guy was reasonably polite. That doesn't excuse the fact that in THIS country, speaking a foreign language in a store is neither a crime, nor reason to be suspicious.

We don't have all that many Hispanics here in Idaho either. Boise has more than Montana as a whole (7% here vs 3.5 there)

But every time I've ever been to a Walmart or to a swap meet, I've heard people speaking Spanish and NEVER have I heard of a cop detaining people for doing so.

YEP - it was most certainly racial profiling. I'm sure that Sheriff Joe was proud.

 

[dblack]

U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’

Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.

Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.

The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.

Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.

Guilty until proven innocent. It's the new normal!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.

This more of your "small" government Constitutional conservatism?

Ahhh, yes. The old "you want small government, therefore you HAVE to believe all government activity is wrong" argument.

Too bad for you that enforcing the border is actually a proper function of government, regardless of whether or not I think THIS guy was right or wrong.

These people were not at the border, they were in the country making a purchase at a store


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Got good news and bad, Montana is a border state...and they have stores at the border.

So. In your little police state, just being in a state on the border is sufficient cause ask people to show their papers?

I bet you do one hell of a goose step


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[Cecilie1200]

You should go see a doctor about that burst blood vessel.

Anyway, bootlicker, they didn’t “walk into America”; they’re American citizens.

You are the one having a cow over nothing....what a stupid thread...when a person is crossing the border they are foreigners until they produce a passport showing they are citizens....tell ya what go find an introductory message board this one is a bit over your ball licking head....

What!?!? Did you even read the article? These people were NOT crossing the border. They are U.S. citizens who were at a store, miles away from the border, when they were detained for speaking Spanish.

Again, as far as I can tell, they were SPOKEN TO, which is not "detained". If you jackasses are going to get your panties in a ruffle and toss around legal terms, you might try using them correctly.

I notice you don't present that argument to the fucktards who are saying they have a right to question and DETAIN, anybody, anywhere (see below quote). Plus, the U.S. citizen in this situation states that she was not allowed to leave the parking lot for 35 minutes, which, if true, fits the legal definition of detainment.

The border patrol has the right and the duty to detain anyone they find suspicious in any way...now go cry to people that give a rip...America is no longer open to illegal aliens...those days are over so you and Pelosi will have to get new voters the old fashion way...earn them...

Chuckles, I'm "presenting that argument" to EVERYONE, all at the same time, because it's a PUBLIC FORUM, and everyone can read my posts. Let me know at which point this concept confuses you.

She STATES she wasn't allowed to leave, but since she so-helpfully RECORDED the whole thing, please show me where in that recording she was actually TOLD she couldn't leave, or even tried to. Seemed to me more like she didn't WANT to leave, because that wouldn't have provided her fifteen minutes of Internet fame as a "civil rights martyr".