Two reasons why fraudulent SSN’s were provided to illegals by Democrats.A: 10,000 illegals using the same exact Social Security number voted in Ariz

[Mashmont]

Racist much?

Tell me how I'm wrong, leftwing nut.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Arizona does not require SSN to vote

It is a bogus claim

It requires a DL or ID card scanned in before the voter’s ballot is custom printed on the spot.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Oh I agree, not only will you not get Republicans (of which I'm one) to agree to it. You won't get Democrats to agree either.

But the difference between me an a cultist is that I understand the difference between "what is" (reality) and "what should be" (fantasy).

WW

sure you do

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

#8>>>

https://storageccec.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/docs/824-Standard_voter_registration_form_092222.pdf

~S~

Nice.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Tell me how I'm wrong, leftwing nut.

Left wing? Boy do you have the wrong number.

You said "Historically Below Customary University Standards". You know that the B stands for Black. It's OK for you to be racist, just don't expect me not to call you out on it. Besides, my brother went to an HBCU and he's as white as snow.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It requires a DL or ID card scanned in before the voter’s ballot is custom printed on the spot.

Does the driver's license contain the SSN? If so, it likely violates federal law.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Does the driver's license contain the SSN? If so, it likely violates federal law.

Rock,

I think there is some confusion here. There is a difference between "is the SSN displayed on the license" and "can the SSN be tracked as part of the DMV system". Here in VA, SSN is one of the field on the Drivers License Application (and has been for years).

Federal law expressly authorizes States to use SSN as an identification factor for Driver's Licenses. Using for identification, does not mean that number appears on the license or is the "Driver's License Number".

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42 U.S. Code § 405 - Evidence, procedure, and certification for payments

www.law.cornell.edu

"(i)It is the policy of the United States that any State (or political subdivision thereof) may, in the administration of any tax, general public assistance, driver’s license, or motor vehicle registration law within its jurisdiction, utilize the social security account numbers issued by the Commissioner of Social Security for the purpose of establishing the identification of individuals affected by such law, and may require any individual who is or appears to be so affected to furnish to such State (or political subdivision thereof) or any agency thereof having administrative responsibility for the law involved, the social security account number (or numbers, if he has more than one such number) issued to him by the Commissioner of Social Security."

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Well, sunlight is the best disinfectant. And what the sunlight has so far uncovered is shocking.

No wonder the rats are running around in circles, screaming!

No wonder that leftist judges are doing what they are doing in a sad attempt to handcuff the Executive from doing his job.

MAGA!

Yeah but it's for democracy cuz you're a xenophobic racist

 

[ThisIsMe]

An ITIN is 10 digits. Easly distinguished as its first digit is always 9.

Itin is 9 digits, but yes, starts with a 9.

Itin is used for paying taxes but its also used for claiming a few different tax credits.

Not sure if any benefits are available with it though.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Rock,

I think there is some confusion here. There is a difference between "is the SSN displayed on the license" and "can the SSN be tracked as part of the DMV system". Here in VA, SSN is one of the field on the Drivers License Application (and has been for years).

Federal law expressly authorizes States to use SSN as an identification factor for Driver's Licenses. Using for identification, does not mean that number appears on the license or is the "Driver's License Number".

WW
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42 U.S. Code § 405 - Evidence, procedure, and certification for payments

www.law.cornell.edu

"(i)It is the policy of the United States that any State (or political subdivision thereof) may, in the administration of any tax, general public assistance, driver’s license, or motor vehicle registration law within its jurisdiction, utilize the social security account numbers issued by the Commissioner of Social Security for the purpose of establishing the identification of individuals affected by such law, and may require any individual who is or appears to be so affected to furnish to such State (or political subdivision thereof) or any agency thereof having administrative responsibility for the law involved, the social security account number (or numbers, if he has more than one such number) issued to him by the Commissioner of Social Security."

It was already shown that the AZ license only uses the last 4 digits of the SSN which is hardly to be used as anything other than like a check sum. It is not a unique identifier.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Itin is 9 digits, but yes, starts with a 9.

Itin is used for paying taxes but its also used for claiming a few different tax credits.

Not sure if any benefits are available with it though.

I stand corrected. I must have misread my link.

 

[WorldWatcher]

It was already shown that the AZ license only uses the last 4 digits of the SSN which is hardly to be used as anything other than like a check sum. It is not a unique identifier.

I live in VA, and the Drivers License does not include the SSN, whether full or last 4. However I've shown you the federal law that allows DMV's to collect and use full SSN's for identification purposes. In VA the Drivers License number is a 9 character code beginning with "T" (for regular consumer licenses).

Below is the VA Drivers License Application with a big red arrow pointing to the filed (notice it is not asking for last 4 or SSN).

And to repeat, I linked to he Federal law that allows DMV's to use SSN.

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www.dmv.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/forms/dl1p.pdf

 

[Mashmont]

Left wing? Boy do you have the wrong number.

You said "Historically Below Customary University Standards". You know that the B stands for Black. It's OK for you to be racist, just don't expect me not to call you out on it. Besides, my brother went to an HBCU and he's as white as snow.

It's a fact that standards of HBCU have been substandard for a long time. Only a leftwing troll would call this truthful observation 'racist'

Google Search

The claim that some HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) are "not up to standards" often refers to concerns about their academic rigor, graduation rates, resource limitations compared to predominantly white institutions, and sometimes a perception of lower academic expectations, leading to criticism that they may not adequately prepare students for higher level education or professional careers; however, this generalization is not accurate for all HBCUs, as many maintain high academic standards and offer excellent educational opportunities, particularly for underrepresented populations.

Key points about this argument:

• Lower graduation rates:
  Compared to other universities, some HBCUs have lower graduation rates, which can be attributed to factors like a higher proportion of first-generation college students and students from lower socio-economic backgrounds attending these institutions.
  
• Funding disparities:
  Many HBCUs face funding challenges compared to their predominantly white counterparts, which can impact facilities, faculty resources, and research opportunities.
  
• Academic standards perception:
  Some critics argue that the perception of lower academic standards at certain HBCUs can deter students from pursuing higher-level education or competitive career paths.
• Challenges with student preparedness:
  Due to disparities in K-12 education, some HBCU students may arrive with less academic preparation than their peers at other institutions.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Because until now, Republicans allowed democrats to get away with it

Oh, that's what it is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You don’t seriously think there is a federal database of voters, do you?

Not yet

Coming soon!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I live in VA, and the Drivers License does not include the SSN, whether full or last 4. However I've shown you the federal law that allows DMV's to collect and use full SSN's for identification purposes. In VA the Drivers License number is a 9 character code beginning with "T" (for regular consumer licenses).

Below is the VA Drivers License Application with a big red arrow pointing to the filed (notice it is not asking for last 4 or SSN).

And to repeat, I linked to he Federal law that allows DMV's to use SSN.

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www.dmv.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/forms/dl1p.pdf

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I have never provided my SSN to the DMV. The point you keep missing is the requirement to provide the full SSN. I still haven't seen it or picked it out of the morass of extraneous BS that you and others have provided to confuse the issue.

What I have seen so far is that the last 4 is required for the form and that the ID is scanned. How would the full SSN be encoded into the DL or an ID if the person did not provide it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's a fact that standards of HBCU have been substandard for a long time. Only a leftwing troll would call this truthful observation 'racist'

Google Search

The claim that some HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) are "not up to standards" often refers to concerns about their academic rigor, graduation rates, resource limitations compared to predominantly white institutions, and sometimes a perception of lower academic expectations, leading to criticism that they may not adequately prepare students for higher level education or professional careers; however, this generalization is not accurate for all HBCUs, as many maintain high academic standards and offer excellent educational opportunities, particularly for underrepresented populations.

Key points about this argument:

• Lower graduation rates:
  Compared to other universities, some HBCUs have lower graduation rates, which can be attributed to factors like a higher proportion of first-generation college students and students from lower socio-economic backgrounds attending these institutions.
• Funding disparities:
  Many HBCUs face funding challenges compared to their predominantly white counterparts, which can impact facilities, faculty resources, and research opportunities.
• Academic standards perception:
  Some critics argue that the perception of lower academic standards at certain HBCUs can deter students from pursuing higher-level education or competitive career paths.
• Challenges with student preparedness:
  Due to disparities in K-12 education, some HBCU students may arrive with less academic preparation than their peers at other institutions.

So, you admit you are a leftwing racist. Good for you! Admitting you have a problem is Step 1.

 

[Mashmont]

So, you admit you are a leftwing racist. Good for you! Admitting you have a problem is Step 1.

You're not even a good troll amigo. Just another leftwinger barking false racist accusations. You guys really need a new playbook.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I have never provided my SSN to the DMV. The point you keep missing is the requirement to provide the full SSN. I still haven't seen it or picked it out of the morass of extraneous BS that you and others have provided to confuse the issue.

What I have seen so far is that the last 4 is required for the form and that the ID is scanned. How would the full SSN be encoded into the DL or an ID if the person did not provide

I showed you the federal law with a link.

I showed you the form.

Again you are confusion the DMV having the SSN when proving identify and printing it on the license. They are not the same thing.

I’ve had to provide it in NY, TN, and VA. And not the last 4, full SSN.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You're not even a good troll amigo. Just another leftwinger barking false racist accusations. You guys really need a new playbook.

Not false. You are attributing poor performance with race, despite there being white students there also. Have a nice time at the KKK cross-burning!