Two Nations: One State?

[docmauser1]

Mexicans ARE Americans.

Good, good. Are americans afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid that they don't allow mexicans to vote in the US?

Where did you:
1. Get the idea Mexicans don't vote in the US?

With 118,395,054 mexicans living between the US and the Panama canal why aren't they allowed to vote in the US? Are americans afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid that they don't allow mexicans to vote in the US?

 

[georgephillip]

Good, good. Are americans afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid that they don't allow mexicans to vote in the US?

Where did you:
1. Get the idea Mexicans don't vote in the US?

With 118,395,054 mexicans living between the US and the Panama canal why aren't they allowed to vote in the US? Are americans afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid that they don't allow mexicans to vote in the US?

Possibly the number of international borders between El Paso and Panama.
When will all Arabs living under Jewish laws be allowed to vote for the corrupt Jews (and Arabs) who write those laws?

 

[georgephillip]

"...Meaning, of course, Good Germans..."

Non sequitur and inappropriate content. A rare Neg-Rep moment, from me to you. A report has been sent to the Moderators about your inappropriate content.

My, my aren't we sensitive?
Did you remember to cc mommy?

 

[docmauser1]

Where did you:
1. Get the idea Mexicans don't vote in the US?

With 118,395,054 mexicans living between the US and the Panama canal why aren't they allowed to vote in the US? Are americans afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid that they don't allow mexicans to vote in the US?

Possibly the number of international borders between El Paso and Panama. When will all Arabs living under Jewish laws be allowed to vote for the corrupt Jews (and Arabs) who write those laws?

Are americans afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid that they don't allow mexicans to vote in the US?

 

[Kondor3]

"My, my aren't we sensitive?..."

Seen.

 

[Hossfly]

What was the ratio of Jew to Arab in Palestine of 1891, Hossie Boy?

"Ahad Ha'am traveled frequently to Palestine and published reports about the progress of Jewish settlement there. They were generally glum. They reported on hunger, on Arab dissatisfaction and unrest, on unemployment, and on people leaving Palestine. In an essay[5] soon after his 1891 journey to the area he warned against the 'great error', noticeable among Jewish settlers, of treating the fellahin with contempt, of regarding 'all

"Arabs a(s) savages of the desert, a people similar to a donkey'.[6][7]
Ahad Ha'am made his first trip to Palestine in 1891. The trip was prompted by concern that the Jaffa members of B'nai Moshe were mishandling land purchases for prospective immigrants and contributing to soaring land prices. His reputation as Zionism's major internal critic has its roots in the essay "A Truth from Eretz Yisrael" published in pamphlet form shortly after his visit in 1891.[8]

"Disturbed by what he saw in 1891, Ahad Ha'am wrote about external perceptions of Palestine:

"We who live abroad are accustomed to believe that almost all Eretz Yisrael is now uninhabited desert and whoever wishes can buy land there as he pleases. But this is not true. It is very difficult to find in the land [ha'aretz] cultivated fields that are not used for planting. Only those sand fields or stone mountains that would require the investment of hard labor and great expense to make them good for planting remain uncultivated and that's because the Arabs do not like working too much in the present for a distant future. Therefore, it is very difficult to find good land for cattle. And not only peasants, but also rich landowners, are not selling good land so easily..."

Ahad Ha'am - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The census of 1893 gives a total of 414,648 Arab Palestinians. Table A-1 below lists 469,000 Arabs for 1893, Bachi claimed there were 489,000, McCarthy estimated 553,000, and Rupin estimated about 600,000 all for approximately the same year. Likewise, as noted, there were wide discrepancies for Jews as well.

"Arjan Fassed and Lauri King Irani (see table below) claimed there were only 7,000 Jews in 1870, and 10,000 in 1893 (apparently taking the Jewish population figures, but not the Arab ones from the Turkish census of that year) while Bachi estimated that there were about 42,000 Jews in 1893. Hala Fattah claimed about 80,000 Jews in 1908, while table A-1 of Arjan El Fassed and Lauri King Irani listed only 60,000 in 1914."

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

It certainly looks like Georgie Boy is spamming again. Sorry, Georgie Boy, but I happen to believe what Winston Churchill and the British officials said about the Arabs swarming in from their impoverished countries when the Jews had jobs for them. Georgie should certainly research other things, such as terrace farming in Israel by the Jews. Why not research what Menashe Harel had to say about this instead of spamming.
Studies in the Archaeology of the Iron Age in Israel and Jordan
books.google.com/books?isbn=0567194175
Amihay Mazar - 2001 - *History
Another geographer, Menashe Harel, has made a much more forceful ... 'with regard to land cultivation, terrace agriculture, unknown to earlier peoples, was the ...

Arabs have been the overwhelming majority in Palestine for the last 1000 years.
Jews swarmed into the Holy Land over the past hundred years because parasites like Winnie saw them as a little, loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of hostile Arabism. Terrace agriculture had little to do with the politics of colonization, but I'm sure that's why you spammed it in the first place.

Agriculture had a lot to add to development of the country. The Jews taught the "inhabitants who had 'lived there for thousands of years' how to farm. Before that, the Arabs gathered the vegetables and grains from the cowpies in the fields. Didn't know how to plow and plant seeds.

 

[P F Tinmore]

George, when will you get out of 1948 ??

When Israel's crimes of 1948 are resolved.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"...Jews are afraid of democracy and in favor of apartheid, is that what your spam is intended to convey? Arabs have been the majority in historical Palestine for the last 1000 years and your amateur night hasbara isn't changing any minds about Israel's ham-handed ethnic cleansing."

Oh, my, but we ARE a little testy today, aren't we?

Try getting this through your own thick pro-Palestinian filters, for once...

The Jews hold the land...

They aren't giving it back...

And they're in the end-stage of grabbing the rest of it, even as we write here...

The Jews are being given a 'free pass' to re-take their old homeland, by those who count...

As a Penance for allowing 6,000,000 of them to be killed without stopping it...

And there is nothing that you-and-yours can do, to stop the Jews from re-taking that homeland...

The Palestinians can go to Jordan, or Lebanon, and rebuild their lives...

The Jews have nowhere else to go...

And, given the rag-tag condition of all of Israel's neighboring Muslim-Arab countries, and their present inability to make credible war...

And given 9-11 and the London Tube bombings...

And given the power of Israel and the IDF, and their nuclear arsenal...

The Western Powers will give the Israelis one helluva lot of latitude in playing-out the end-game...

Nobody is going to step-up to the plate to save the Palestinians from being nudged off their land and expelled across the borders when the time comes...

The world at-large is bone-tired of this horseshit and the stupidity and craziness of the Palestinians time after time after time, so that, by now, the world just wants this over in the quickest way possible, so long as people aren't slaughtered en masse in the process...

No Arab cavalry is coming over the hill to buy the Palestinians more time, this time, like they did in 1948, 1967 and 1973...

And the rest of the world no longer cares enough to even seriously consider intervening...

Not unless they're prepared to take-on the United States, as well, and at least some substantial portion of NATO...

I can't speak for our colleagues here, but I do not even attempt to conceal the idea that Israel is slowly but surely forcing the Muslim-Arabs off their old lands and kicking their raggedy asses out of the country...

As a matter of fact, I go out of my way to AFFIRM that this is EXACTLY what they are doing.

Hell, I don't even try to change minds or soft-soap the process, in this context.

I merely acknowledge that the Israelis ARE slowly but surely Expelling the Muslim-Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza from their lands - as much in repayment for the expelling of 1.x million Jews from Muslim lands in the 1948-1975 time-frame as anything else...

As stupidly as the Palestinians have conducted themselves throughout much of the past 65 years, and as many times as they have made bad choices in their dealings with Israel, in a very real sense, they have brought themselves to this sad state of affairs, by their intransigence and foolhardy reliance upon the worthless promises of their Arab neighbor-states...

The Muslim-Arabs of Palestine have LOST the Battle for Palestine.

I liken their continued idiotic resistance to that of a chicken that has just had its head cut off - it's dead - it just doesn't know it yet - as the torso continues to flap its wings and run madly about the barnyard, spouting blood - but, eventually, it runs out of synaptic energy and lies down and is quiet forevermore...

At least the Muslim-Arabs of Palestine have Jordanian citizenship to fall back on; they should have been evacuated by Jordan in 1967 after the Jordanians stupidly attacked Israel and after they got their asses kicked. Would've saved everybody a lot of hassle.

Time for the Muslim-Arabs of Palestine to pack-up and head for Jordan, where they're wanted, and while there's still time to drive-out under their own power, rather than being herded out later, when the other shoe eventually drops.

No trying to change minds, on my part.

No soft-soap.

Simply the cold, hard Reality best expressed as...

"Vae victus"...

Don't like it?

Come take the land back.

If you can.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCCo5aHT0mg]Haim Bresheeth speaks about the One State Solution in Palestine/Israel - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF0iBWjCF9o]Haim Bresheeth speaks about the One State Solution in Palestine/Israel - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Kondor3]

George, when will you get out of 1948 ??

When Israel's crimes of 1948 are resolved.

Your people will, quite probably, be obliged to resolve them from the other side of the Jordanian border, in the not-too-distant future.

 

[Kondor3]

"..."

Tinny... very few people are going to pay attention to a 'Jews for Palestine' fifth columnist filmmaker from the United Kingdom and cheese-eating surrender monkey, opining upon what the Jews of Israel should do.

 

[georgephillip]

It certainly looks like Georgie Boy is spamming again. Sorry, Georgie Boy, but I happen to believe what Winston Churchill and the British officials said about the Arabs swarming in from their impoverished countries when the Jews had jobs for them. Georgie should certainly research other things, such as terrace farming in Israel by the Jews. Why not research what Menashe Harel had to say about this instead of spamming.
Studies in the Archaeology of the Iron Age in Israel and Jordan
books.google.com/books?isbn=0567194175
Amihay Mazar - 2001 - *History
Another geographer, Menashe Harel, has made a much more forceful ... 'with regard to land cultivation, terrace agriculture, unknown to earlier peoples, was the ...

Arabs have been the overwhelming majority in Palestine for the last 1000 years.
Jews swarmed into the Holy Land over the past hundred years because parasites like Winnie saw them as a little, loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of hostile Arabism. Terrace agriculture had little to do with the politics of colonization, but I'm sure that's why you spammed it in the first place.

Agriculture had a lot to add to development of the country. The Jews taught the "inhabitants who had 'lived there for thousands of years' how to farm. Before that, the Arabs gathered the vegetables and grains from the cowpies in the fields. Didn't know how to plow and plant seeds.

"The region (Palestine) was among the earliest in the world to see human habitation, agricultural communities and civilization. During the Bronze Age, independent Canaanite city-states were established, and were influenced by the surrounding civilizations of ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, Phoenicia, Minoan Crete, and Syria.

"During 1550–1400 BCE, the Canaanite cities became vassals to the Egyptian New Kingdom who held power until the 1178 BCE Battle of Djahy (Canaan) during the wider Bronze Age collapse.

"Modern archaeologists dispute parts of the Biblical tradition, the latest thinking being that the Israelites emerged from a dramatic social transformation that took place in the people of the central hill country of Canaan around 1200 BCE, with no signs of violent invasion or even of peaceful infiltration of a clearly defined ethnic group from elsewhere.[2]

"The Philistines arrived and mingled with the local population, and according to Biblical tradition, the United Kingdom of Israel was established in 1020 BCE and split within a century to form the northern Kingdom of Israel, and the southern Kingdom of Judah.

"The region became part of the Neo-Assyrian Empire from c. 740 BCE, which was itself replaced by the Neo-Babylonian Empire in c. 627 BCE. A war with Egypt culminated in 586 BCE when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II and the local leaders were deported to Babylonia, only to be allowed to return under the Achaemenid Empire."

History of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe you should stop swallowing so many (kosher) cowpies?

 

[georgephillip]

"..."

Tinny... very few people are going to pay attention to a 'Jews for Palestine' fifth columnist filmmaker from the United Kingdom and cheese-eating surrender monkey, opining upon what the Jews of Israel should do.

How much attention do anonymous Good Germans with delusions of Third Reich "Reality" warrant?

 

[Kondor3]

"..."

Tinny... very few people are going to pay attention to a 'Jews for Palestine' fifth columnist filmmaker from the United Kingdom and cheese-eating surrender monkey, opining upon what the Jews of Israel should do.

How much attention do anonymous Good Germans with delusions of Third Reich "Reality" warrant?

Awwwww... I don't think you like my hardline stance on dealing with your beloved Palestinians...

Address the points, my little pissant, not the poster.

Then again, you have no counter for a simple 'No - you can't have the land back.' - do you?

Come and take it, if you can.

Or settle for Ankle-Biter status, forevermore...

 

[georgephillip]

Tinny... very few people are going to pay attention to a 'Jews for Palestine' fifth columnist filmmaker from the United Kingdom and cheese-eating surrender monkey, opining upon what the Jews of Israel should do.

How much attention do anonymous Good Germans with delusions of Third Reich "Reality" warrant?

Awwwww... I don't think you like my hardline stance on dealing with your beloved Palestinians...

Address the points, my little pissant, not the poster.

Then again, you have no counter for a simple 'No - you can't have the land back.' - do you?

Come and take it, if you can.

Or settle for Ankle-Biter status, forevermore...

What "points" do you imagine you're making, Nazi licker?

 

[Kondor3]

"...What 'points' do you imagine you're making..."

I had no particular point in-mind at the moment I wrote that post.

Rather, it was a general admonition to refrain from attacking your colleagues and remain focused upon the material at-hand.

But, if you insist on continuing down this path, you can have it any way you like.

And we all know how you like it... our resident cute little Arab Butt-Boy.... don't we?

This thread and others like it are intended to discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict.

If you want a piece of me, boy, open-up a thread in the Flame Zone or something.

 

[toastman]

How much attention do anonymous Good Germans with delusions of Third Reich "Reality" warrant?

Awwwww... I don't think you like my hardline stance on dealing with your beloved Palestinians...

Address the points, my little pissant, not the poster.

Then again, you have no counter for a simple 'No - you can't have the land back.' - do you?

Come and take it, if you can.

Or settle for Ankle-Biter status, forevermore...

What "points" do you imagine you're making, Nazi licker?

George, every time you call him Hitler or a Nazi, you're just making a fool out of yourself and showing him that he's getting under your skin.

 

[docmauser1]

George, when will you get out of 1948 ??

When Israel's crimes of 1948 are resolved.

Crimes of showing arabs that the latter are abject losers?

 

[docmauser1]

..."The region became part of the Neo-Assyrian Empire from c. 740 BCE, which was itself replaced by the Neo-Babylonian Empire in c. 627 BCE. A war with Egypt culminated in 586 BCE when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II and the local leaders were deported to Babylonia, only to be allowed to return under the Achaemenid Empire."

No palistanians? Never existed?

 

[georgephillip]

"...What 'points' do you imagine you're making..."

I had no particular point in-mind at the moment I wrote that post.

Rather, it was a general admonition to refrain from attacking your colleagues and remain focused upon the material at-hand.

But, if you insist on continuing down this path, you can have it any way you like.

And we all know how you like it... our resident cute little Arab Butt-Boy.... don't we?

This thread and others like it are intended to discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict.

If you want a piece of me, boy, open-up a thread in the Flame Zone or something.

Anytime.
Anywhere.
Sissy.

 

[georgephillip]

Awwwww... I don't think you like my hardline stance on dealing with your beloved Palestinians...

Address the points, my little pissant, not the poster.

Then again, you have no counter for a simple 'No - you can't have the land back.' - do you?

Come and take it, if you can.

Or settle for Ankle-Biter status, forevermore...

What "points" do you imagine you're making, Nazi licker?

George, every time you call him Hitler or a Nazi, you're just making a fool out of yourself and showing him that he's getting under your skin.

He gets under my skin less than you do.
Which is less than nothing.