Two Nations: One State?

[Kondor3]

"...Anytime... Anywhere... Sissy."

It will have to wait until your Arab Masters have had their way with your backside again, miscreant.

What does any of this have to do with a One-State or Two-State solution for Israel-Palestine?

DO try to stay on-topic, yes?

 

[georgephillip]

"...What 'points' do you imagine you're making..."

I had no particular point in-mind at the moment I wrote that post.

Rather, it was a general admonition to refrain from attacking your colleagues and remain focused upon the material at-hand.

But, if you insist on continuing down this path, you can have it any way you like.

And we all know how you like it... our resident cute little Arab Butt-Boy.... don't we?

This thread and others like it are intended to discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict.

If you want a piece of me, boy, open-up a thread in the Flame Zone or something.

Is the above an example of staying on topic in your "mind?"
Naftali Bennett, Israel's current economy and trade minister, thinks Jews can annex 62% of the West Bank known as Area C and offer the 50,000 Arabs who are legally living there full Israeli citizenship along with the 350,000 Jewish settlers who reside there in violation of international law.

At the opposite end of Israel's political spectrum, leftists argue that Arab families with roots in cities and towns that are now within sovereign Israel should be allowed to move back to these areas.

Third Temple or Right of Return?

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

 

[docmauser1]

A “very small minority would actually move back,” Zochrot director Eitan Bronstein said, suggesting that Palestinians now established with citizenship in other countries, such as Jordan, would be unlikely to relocate."
Third Temple or Right of Return?
Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

"Still on the Drawing Board: Architect Shadi Habib Allah has drafted detailed plans for al-Lajun, a proposed town in Northern Israel for returning Palestinians."
"Read my lips - No new refugees!" And that's a "corporate-induced" delusion that Bronstein tries to get accepted. Marketing and sales of bridges and snake oil is that all NGOs with shady financing do, of course. Bth., don't palistanans want a state anymore? hehe

 

[georgephillip]

A “very small minority would actually move back,” Zochrot director Eitan Bronstein said, suggesting that Palestinians now established with citizenship in other countries, such as Jordan, would be unlikely to relocate."
Third Temple or Right of Return?
Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

"Still on the Drawing Board: Architect Shadi Habib Allah has drafted detailed plans for al-Lajun, a proposed town in Northern Israel for returning Palestinians."
"Read my lips - No new refugees!" And that's a "corporate-induced" delusion that Bronstein tries to get accepted. Marketing and sales of bridges and snake oil is that all NGOs with shady financing do, of course. Bth., don't palistanans want a state anymore? hehe

You've stolen all the real estate.
Don't Jews want peace anymore?

"'There was no point doing this when the whole of the international community was under the magic spell of the two-state solution,' explained right-wing settler activist Dani Dayan, who serves as international envoy for the Yesha Council, the main umbrella group for Jewish settlers on the Israeli-occupied West Bank. 'Now, when it is more and more evident that it will not happen, the time is coming to discuss alternatives.'”

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

 

[docmauser1]

A “very small minority would actually move back,” Zochrot director Eitan Bronstein said, suggesting that Palestinians now established with citizenship in other countries, such as Jordan, would be unlikely to relocate."
Third Temple or Right of Return?
Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

"Still on the Drawing Board: Architect Shadi Habib Allah has drafted detailed plans for al-Lajun, a proposed town in Northern Israel for returning Palestinians."
"Read my lips - No new refugees!" And that's a "corporate-induced" delusion that Bronstein tries to get accepted. Marketing and sales of bridges and snake oil is that all NGOs with shady financing do, of course. Bth., don't palistanans want a state anymore? hehe

You've stolen all the real estate.

Oh, Me is rich. Bth., did the claimants to the plot produce any land deeds?

Don't Jews want peace anymore?

Do arabs offer any, which isn't a joke?

"'There was no point doing this when the whole of the international community was under the magic spell of the two-state solution,' explained right-wing settler activist Dani Dayan, who serves as international envoy for the Yesha Council, the main umbrella group for Jewish settlers on the Israeli-occupied West Bank. 'Now, when it is more and more evident that it will not happen, the time is coming to discuss alternatives.'”

Indeed, transfer and resettlement of palistanians elsewhere, is the way out, of course.

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

Corporate-funded loony tunes.

 

[georgephillip]

"Still on the Drawing Board: Architect Shadi Habib Allah has drafted detailed plans for al-Lajun, a proposed town in Northern Israel for returning Palestinians."
"Read my lips - No new refugees!" And that's a "corporate-induced" delusion that Bronstein tries to get accepted. Marketing and sales of bridges and snake oil is that all NGOs with shady financing do, of course. Bth., don't palistanans want a state anymore? hehe

You've stolen all the real estate.

Oh, Me is rich. Bth., did the claimants to the plot produce any land deeds?Do arabs offer any, which isn't a joke?

"'There was no point doing this when the whole of the international community was under the magic spell of the two-state solution,' explained right-wing settler activist Dani Dayan, who serves as international envoy for the Yesha Council, the main umbrella group for Jewish settlers on the Israeli-occupied West Bank. 'Now, when it is more and more evident that it will not happen, the time is coming to discuss alternatives.'”

Indeed, transfer and resettlement of palistanians elsewhere, is the way out, of course.

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

Corporate-funded loony tunes.

"Last January, a large conference took place to promote Israeli annexation of the West Bank. The Jewish Home party, which sits in the current government coalition, supports the idea. The conference included detailed discussions on what rights Palestinians would have if annexation took place. Speakers presented various ideas, including giving them full citizenship, giving them only permanent residence rights, and granting them residency while insisting that they be granted voting rights in Jordan.

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

 

[docmauser1]

You've stolen all the real estate.

Oh, Me is rich. Bth., did the claimants to the plot produce any land deeds?Do arabs offer any, which isn't a joke?Indeed, transfer and resettlement of palistanians elsewhere, is the way out, of course.

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

Corporate-funded loony tunes.

"Last January, a large conference took place to promote Israeli annexation of the West Bank. The Jewish Home party, which sits in the current government coalition, supports the idea. The conference included detailed discussions on what rights Palestinians would have if annexation took place. Speakers presented various ideas, including giving them full citizenship, giving them only permanent residence rights, and granting them residency while insisting that they be granted voting rights in Jordan."Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

With a logical move being establishment of an office of emigrant assistance and palestinians can dance it from there, and Hilfswerk der Evangelischen Kirchen Schweiz, in particular, may take them all, if they tout they care so much. Cool, isn't it?

 

[georgephillip]

Oh, Me is rich. Bth., did the claimants to the plot produce any land deeds?Do arabs offer any, which isn't a joke?Indeed, transfer and resettlement of palistanians elsewhere, is the way out, of course.Corporate-funded loony tunes.

"Last January, a large conference took place to promote Israeli annexation of the West Bank. The Jewish Home party, which sits in the current government coalition, supports the idea. The conference included detailed discussions on what rights Palestinians would have if annexation took place. Speakers presented various ideas, including giving them full citizenship, giving them only permanent residence rights, and granting them residency while insisting that they be granted voting rights in Jordan."Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

With a logical move being establishment of an office of emigrant assistance and palestinians can dance it from there, and Hilfswerk der Evangelischen Kirchen Schweiz, in particular, may take them all, if they tout they care so much. Cool, isn't it?

Would Golda approve?

"The realistic goal of the conference, he and other organizers said, wasn’t to suddenly make 'return' mainstream in Israel, but rather to begin a conversation, and to establish what 'return' would actually mean.

"Bronstein acknowledged that Israel would no longer have a Jewish majority in such a scenario, but he stressed that Jews would still represent a significant proportion of the country’s citizens.

"Amir Asher, a translator who volunteers as a guide for Zochrot’s tours of former Palestinian villages whose structures or ruins remain within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, claimed that the right of return for Palestinians would not be just a concession by Israelis — it would also benefit them.

“'People always think about return in terms of the damage it would cause from the point of view of Jews in Israel,' he said, 'but they never think about it as a good thing.'

"Asher argued that it would rectify the wrongs he believes were done to Palestinians around the time of Israel’s establishment, and thereby enable Israelis to stop 'living a lie...'"

"There is room' in the land for all, Asher said 'The [required] space is vacant; the country can support this number of people.'”

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

Stop living a lie, Drivel.
Learn Spanish!

 

[docmauser1]

"Last January, a large conference took place to promote Israeli annexation of the West Bank. The Jewish Home party, which sits in the current government coalition, supports the idea. The conference included detailed discussions on what rights Palestinians would have if annexation took place. Speakers presented various ideas, including giving them full citizenship, giving them only permanent residence rights, and granting them residency while insisting that they be granted voting rights in Jordan."Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

With a logical move being establishment of an office of emigrant assistance and palestinians can dance it from there, and Hilfswerk der Evangelischen Kirchen Schweiz, in particular, may take them all, if they tout they care so much. Cool, isn't it?

Would Golda approve? "The realistic goal of the conference, he and other organizers said, wasn’t to suddenly make 'return' mainstream in Israel, but rather to begin a conversation, and to establish what 'return' would actually mean. "Bronstein acknowledged that Israel would no longer have a Jewish majority in such a scenario, but he stressed that Jews would still represent a significant proportion of the country’s citizens. "Amir Asher, a translator who volunteers as a guide for Zochrot’s tours of former Palestinian villages whose structures or ruins remain within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, claimed that the right of return for Palestinians would not be just a concession by Israelis — it would also benefit them. “'People always think about return in terms of the damage it would cause from the point of view of Jews in Israel,' he said, 'but they never think about it as a good thing.' Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

That Asher guy is, of course, an idiot, who thinks about jumping from the roof in terms of damage, but he never thinks about it as a good thing.

Stop living a lie, Drivel. Learn Spanish!

Are palistanians moving to California?

 

[georgephillip]

With a logical move being establishment of an office of emigrant assistance and palestinians can dance it from there, and Hilfswerk der Evangelischen Kirchen Schweiz, in particular, may take them all, if they tout they care so much. Cool, isn't it?

Would Golda approve? "The realistic goal of the conference, he and other organizers said, wasn’t to suddenly make 'return' mainstream in Israel, but rather to begin a conversation, and to establish what 'return' would actually mean. "Bronstein acknowledged that Israel would no longer have a Jewish majority in such a scenario, but he stressed that Jews would still represent a significant proportion of the country’s citizens. "Amir Asher, a translator who volunteers as a guide for Zochrot’s tours of former Palestinian villages whose structures or ruins remain within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, claimed that the right of return for Palestinians would not be just a concession by Israelis — it would also benefit them. “'People always think about return in terms of the damage it would cause from the point of view of Jews in Israel,' he said, 'but they never think about it as a good thing.' Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

That Asher guy is, of course, an idiot, who thinks about jumping from the roof in terms of damage, but he never thinks about it as a good thing.

Stop living a lie, Drivel. Learn Spanish!

Are palistanians moving to California?

What good and damaging about jumping off your roof, Drivel?

 

[docmauser1]

Would Golda approve? "The realistic goal of the conference, he and other organizers said, wasn’t to suddenly make 'return' mainstream in Israel, but rather to begin a conversation, and to establish what 'return' would actually mean. "Bronstein acknowledged that Israel would no longer have a Jewish majority in such a scenario, but he stressed that Jews would still represent a significant proportion of the country’s citizens. "Amir Asher, a translator who volunteers as a guide for Zochrot’s tours of former Palestinian villages whose structures or ruins remain within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, claimed that the right of return for Palestinians would not be just a concession by Israelis — it would also benefit them. “'People always think about return in terms of the damage it would cause from the point of view of Jews in Israel,' he said, 'but they never think about it as a good thing.' Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

That Asher guy is, of course, an idiot, who thinks about jumping from the roof in terms of damage, but he never thinks about it as a good thing.

Stop living a lie, Drivel. Learn Spanish!

Are palistanians moving to California?

What good and damaging about jumping off your roof, Drivel?

Drivel.

 

[georgephillip]

"Let’s say that you are stridently opposed to the idea of one state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean – one that would be undemocratic, and based on the explicit, formal and institutionalized supremacy of the (soon-to-be) Jewish minority within such a state.

"Let’s also say that you reject a democratic and egalitarian one-state solution, which would not – in your opinion – be compatible with the Jewish right for national self-determination.

"What do you do?"

Israel?s major parties support a non-democratic one-state solution | +972 Magazine

 

[docmauser1]

"Let’s say that you are stridently opposed to the idea of one state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean – one that would be undemocratic, and based on the explicit, formal and institutionalized supremacy of the (soon-to-be) Jewish minority within such a state. "Let’s also say that you reject a democratic and egalitarian one-state solution, which would not – in your opinion – be compatible with the Jewish right for national self-determination. "What do you do?" Israel?s major parties support a non-democratic one-state solution | +972 Magazine

The international community should be doing resettling palistanians elsewhere for their own good, of course. Failed experiments can't be rectified at the expence of others, of course.

 

[georgephillip]

"Let’s say that you are stridently opposed to the idea of one state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean – one that would be undemocratic, and based on the explicit, formal and institutionalized supremacy of the (soon-to-be) Jewish minority within such a state. "Let’s also say that you reject a democratic and egalitarian one-state solution, which would not – in your opinion – be compatible with the Jewish right for national self-determination. "What do you do?" Israel?s major parties support a non-democratic one-state solution | +972 Magazine

The international community should be doing resettling palistanians elsewhere for their own good, of course. Failed experiments can't be rectified at the expence of others, of course.

"Naftali Bennett, Israel’s economy and trade minister, and other prominent members of the ruling coalition have been pushing a plan under which Israel would annex a part of the West Bank known as Area C.

"This part constitutes 62% of the territory’s total land area, including its most fertile and resource-rich land, but it contains only an estimated 150,000 Arabs.

"Palestinians say that Israel has been forcing out the Palestinian population in this sector through denial of building permits and through land expropriations.

"But Bennett sees the sector’s current demographic character as the basis for launching a new post-negotiations initiative.

“There are 350,000 Israelis living in Area C and only 50,000 Arabs,” Bennett told Israel’s Ynetnews website in February 2012, before his election to public office. 'They will become full-fledged Israeli citizens, and according to this plan, no one — neither a Jew nor an Arab — would be driven out of his home.'”

How many of those 350,000 illegal Jews will you be taking in, Drivel?

Utopian Thinkers Plan for Future One-State Israel Solution ? If It Comes ? Forward.com

 

[docmauser1]

"Let’s say that you are stridently opposed to the idea of one state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean – one that would be undemocratic, and based on the explicit, formal and institutionalized supremacy of the (soon-to-be) Jewish minority within such a state. "Let’s also say that you reject a democratic and egalitarian one-state solution, which would not – in your opinion – be compatible with the Jewish right for national self-determination. "What do you do?" Israel?s major parties support a non-democratic one-state solution | +972 Magazine

The international community should be doing resettling palistanians elsewhere for their own good, of course. Failed experiments can't be rectified at the expence of others, of course.

"Naftali Bennett, Israel’s economy and trade minister, and other prominent members of the ruling coalition have been pushing a plan under which Israel would annex a part of the West Bank known as Area C. "This part constitutes 62% of the territory’s total land area, including its most fertile and resource-rich land, but it contains only an estimated 150,000 Arabs. "Palestinians say that Israel has been forcing out the Palestinian population in this sector through denial of building permits and through land expropriations. "But Bennett sees the sector’s current demographic character as the basis for launching a new post-negotiations initiative. “There are 350,000 Israelis living in Area C and only 50,000 Arabs,” Bennett told Israel’s Ynetnews website in February 2012, before his election to public office. 'They will become full-fledged Israeli citizens, and according to this plan, no one — neither a Jew nor an Arab — would be driven out of his home.'”

The international community (unless it's committed to humping palistanians in pestering jews) is long past due in effecting a humanitarian transfer of palistanians elsewhere, of course.

 

[Synthaholic]

Two Nations: One State?

Like Nevada?