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Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.So, you believe Trump?Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it."Want to pay more taxes"?Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.Is that what the lying moron claimed?Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KYThe IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.Exactly what Trump thinks.LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.
But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty
Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”
Such a "patriot".
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.
So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.
Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Then sweep out the trailer
It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.
The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.
Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."
The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.
Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.
The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.
We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.
The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.
Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.
it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.
If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.
Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.
“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”
Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.
As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.
The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.
You got conned by an orange, retard.
Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker
Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' moneywww.theguardian.com
A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession
Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, astcf.org
Secret and Lies of the Bailout
The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worstwww.rollingstone.com
The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.So, you believe Trump?Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it."Want to pay more taxes"?Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.Is that what the lying moron claimed?Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KYThe IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.Exactly what Trump thinks.LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.
But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty
Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”
Such a "patriot".
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.
So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.
Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Then sweep out the trailer
It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.
The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.
Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."
The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.
Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.
The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.
We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.
The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.
Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.
it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.
If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.
Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.
“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”
Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.
As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.
The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.
You got conned by an orange, retard.
Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker
Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money
A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession
Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as
Secret and Lies of the Bailout
The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst
The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.
Can we conclude both parties are complicit?
