Tucker Carlson interviews Mearsheimer -The relationship between Israel and America is like nothing else before and is often not beneficial to America

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By a suicidal treaty that turned the Sinai over to Egypt's Moslem Brotherhood (leading the jihad since 1928), the Mossad was not allowed to spy in the Sinai.

The 7 Oct Ham-ass massacre didn't happen in Sinai.

 

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Well that’s the case being laid out by John Mearsheimer. Take a listen for yourself. This is a qualified academic from the university of Chicago who is not a random person on the Internet. He talked about how he had an article he gave to the Atlantic that was supposed to run, but it got shut down due to higher-ups in the Atlantic apparently being worried about how the Israeli lobby would view it.

Relevant part starts at about the 1 hour 12 minute mark…. The video is also divided into chapters so you can easily scroll to the parts about Israel.



Part of the point that Mearsheimer makes is that yes there are times when Israel and the USA have similar interests, but there are other times when they do not have similar interests, but in those situations the power of the Israeli lobby over rules and Israel gets whatever it wants from America. A very unique thing in history.

In the present time is there is an undeniable divide between the American people and the American government when it comes to supporting Netanyahu. Large numbers of American Democrats and Republicans oppose funding the Israeli war in Gaza, whereas large numbers of Democrat and Republican politicians support funding the war in Gaza.

As Mearsheimer points out, Israel is faced with a dilemma. They can either attempt to change peoples opinion or they can change their own policy toward Gaza. Part of the big problem of the first choice is too many of the pro Israel. People have no dialogue whatsoever They just scream Nazi or antisemitic people. You also have simpleton people in the West who have their reasons for supporting Israel such as they will say “Palestinians will not be happy until every Jew is dead” that’s a a complete propaganda. Or they will say things like “God gave the Jews all that land”. Those ladder group of people are among the most selfish people in America and really difficult to be around with.

Some in Israel do you want to see their policy toward Gaza changed but to that point you have the Netanyahu propaganda of claiming Jews would face extinction, which of course is complete propaganda as Hamas is utterly incapable of taking Israel let alone defending Gaza.

The left and pro-Palestinian activists in the west ignore the basic underlying truth of the conflict. The conflict isn't about Palestinians getting back territory (which by the way, was jewish/Hebrew land for 5,000 years), but rather Muslims wanting to resume subjugating non-Muslims and especially killing Jews, as their Quran clearly orders the Muslims to kill all Jews and also all non-believers wherever they find them.
The world community as a whole could grant all Israeli land over to the Muslims and after receiving it, the Muslims would drive out and kill all Jews.....then what?!
They would go after any Christians they find and move on from there.
A common saying among Muslims is, "first the Saturday people (Jews), then the Sunday people (Christians)." Islamists have also insisted that they will go after the Hindus. They admit that they are followers of a "conquering religion," and that is what they will do.
Treaties with them are only temporary and they will never stop, so non-Muslims have a choice, convert and accept that their women will become 2nd-class citizens with minimal rights, just allow them to murder you, fight in a global war to end them, or flee...but to where, as they are winning in the west?

 

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FALSE FLAGS: THE SECRET HISTORY OF AL QAEDA | FULL DOCUMENTARY (2021)​

"We all know the story of bin Laden and Al Qaeda, the story that was repeated ad nauseam in the days, weeks and months after the catastrophic, catalyzing events of 9/11. So often was that story repeated that the hypnotized public forgot that it was, at base, just that: a story. . . ."

 

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The left and pro-Palestinian activists in the west ignore the basic underlying truth of the conflict. The conflict isn't about Palestinians getting back territory (which by the way, was jewish/Hebrew land for 5,000 years), but rather Muslims wanting to resume subjugating non-Muslims and especially killing Jews, as their Quran clearly orders the Muslims to kill all Jews and also all non-believers wherever they find them.
The world community as a whole could grant all Israeli land over to the Muslims and after receiving it, the Muslims would drive out and kill all Jews.....then what?!
They would go after any Christians they find and move on from there.
A common saying among Muslims is, "first the Saturday people (Jews), then the Sunday people (Christians)." Islamists have also insisted that they will go after the Hindus. They admit that they are followers of a "conquering religion," and that is what they will do.
Treaties with them are only temporary and they will never stop, so non-Muslims have a choice, convert and accept that their women will become 2nd-class citizens with minimal rights, just allow them to murder you, fight in a global war to end them, or flee...but to where, as they are winning in the west?

If you voted for Trump you have a problem. Trump gets along great with the GCC countries. I voted for Trump in 2024. Plenty of white Christians prosper and even live in the GCC countries.

Your arguments are about 20 years old. It’s a new day and age.

Well the holy land is considered Catholic territory by some of the greatest Knights of history hence the Crusades…in addition before that For centuries it was under the control of the Romans and byzantines.

let anyone say whatever they want about any religion. It is interesting though that the millions of people who follow the likes of Andrew Tate or Candace Owens for example have a positive viewpoint of a lot of things related to Muslims. They see them standing up to the radical far left and hanging onto their traditions.

And that’s another point let people say whatever they want about someone like Andrew Tate or Candice Owens. It’s just interesting that you have a large number of conservative Christians now who do not agree with supporting Israel no matter what. If you look at the various podcasts like fresh and fit is another example. These are clearly not left-wing people. They’re into masculinity. They are into being the alpha male, they are into traditional Values. …. They all oppose the policies of Israel. They blame Zionists for the JFK assassination and even for 911 for example. Again, let people say whatever they want they can of course make up the view that these people are “antisemitic”, but the reality on the ground is the game has changed.

Again, let people make lazy one liner insults to dismiss people who support Candace Owens. It doesn’t matter there’s millions and millions of people who are on the right wing who oppose supporting Israel no matter what.

Personally, I consider myself to be a traditional Democrat…. but I oppose radical leftism , wokeism that kind of stuff…. I agree with some of what Andrew Tate, Candace Owens and the fresh fit podcast have to say about a variety of things including Israel/Palestine. I don’t agree with them on everything though.

And pretty much it is the neoconservatives that are the strongest supporters of Israel now. Young Republicans, young conservatives in large part are opposing Israel for a variety of reasons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...divide-israel/

This is blatantly obvious to anyone who is following social media. It’s not so much obvious to the boomer generation or the neoconservatives.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The left and pro-Palestinian activists in the west ignore the basic underlying truth of the conflict. The conflict isn't about Palestinians getting back territory (which by the way, was jewish/Hebrew land for 5,000 years), but rather Muslims wanting to resume subjugating non-Muslims and especially killing Jews, as their Quran clearly orders the Muslims to kill all Jews and also all non-believers wherever they find them.
The world community as a whole could grant all Israeli land over to the Muslims and after receiving it, the Muslims would drive out and kill all Jews.....then what?!
They would go after any Christians they find and move on from there.
A common saying among Muslims is, "first the Saturday people (Jews), then the Sunday people (Christians)." Islamists have also insisted that they will go after the Hindus. They admit that they are followers of a "conquering religion," and that is what they will do.
Treaties with them are only temporary and they will never stop, so non-Muslims have a choice, convert and accept that their women will become 2nd-class citizens with minimal rights, just allow them to murder you, fight in a global war to end them, or flee...but to where, as they are winning in the west?

It Was Almost Anti-Semitic to Let Jews Take a Bullet Meant for Us


Diplomatically, Western governments can't come right out and say that the Jewish Homeland was established by them as a decoy to the jihad succeeding the Turkish one ended by World War One. It wasn't until Al Qaeda realized that its fellow Nazislamis had been suckers that the jihadi strategy started to bypass Israel and attack the West in its homelands.

Taking a page from Mein Kampf, it then concentrated on political means, such as voting, massive immigration of sleeper cells, and infiltration of the academia and the media.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If you voted for Trump you have a problem. Trump gets along great with the GCC countries. I voted for Trump in 2024. Plenty of white Christians prosper and even live in the GCC countries.

Your arguments are about 20 years old. It’s a new day and age.

Well the holy land is considered Catholic territory by some of the greatest Knights of history hence the Crusades…in addition before that For centuries it was under the control of the Romans and byzantines.

let anyone say whatever they want about any religion. It is interesting though that the millions of people who follow the likes of Andrew Tate or Candace Owens for example have a positive viewpoint of a lot of things related to Muslims. They see them standing up to the radical far left and hanging onto their traditions.

And that’s another point let people say whatever they want about someone like Andrew Tate or Candice Owens. It’s just interesting that you have a large number of conservative Christians now who do not agree with supporting Israel no matter what. If you look at the various podcasts like fresh and fit is another example. These are clearly not left-wing people. They’re into masculinity. They are into being the alpha male, they are into traditional Values. …. They all oppose the policies of Israel. They blame Zionists for the JFK assassination and even for 911 for example. Again, let people say whatever they want they can of course make up the view that these people are “antisemitic”, but the reality on the ground is the game has changed.

Again, let people make lazy one liner insults to dismiss people who support Candace Owens. It doesn’t matter there’s millions and millions of people who are on the right wing who oppose supporting Israel no matter what.

Personally, I consider myself to be a traditional Democrat…. but I oppose radical leftism , wokeism that kind of stuff…. I agree with some of what Andrew Tate, Candace Owens and the fresh fit podcast have to say about a variety of things including Israel/Palestine. I don’t agree with them on everything though.

And pretty much it is the neoconservatives that are the strongest supporters of Israel now. Young Republicans, young conservatives in large part are opposing Israel for a variety of reasons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...divide-israel/

This is blatantly obvious to anyone who is following social media. It’s not so much obvious to the boomer generation or the neoconservatives.

Without Likud, America Is Licked

For a hundred years, all the attacks on Israel have been part of the same war brought home to us on 9/11. The retaliation to that, led by an unpatriotic and ignorant coward, was such a massive and expensive failure that Americans want to forget about it and refuse to see the connection of it with the present war on the Jews.

 

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Inside ‘Greater Israel’: myths and truths behind the long-time Zionist fantasy

The expansive territorial ambitions of creating a “Greater Israel” once seemed only to be a right-wing Zionist fantasy. Today, current events in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria show it might be closer than many ever thought possible.

mondoweiss.net

". . . The term came back into political discourse through the rhetoric of religious right-wing extremists from the settlement movement, many of whom were elected into office in the second half of the 2000s. The most notorious of them is Bezalel Smotrich, who now holds the position of Finance Minister, with unprecedented powers over settlement policy in the West Bank. He said in an old interview featured in a documentary by the French-German channel Arte, that he dreamed of a “Greater Israel that would extend from the Nile and the Euphrates”, with the limits of the Jewish Jerusalem extending all the way to the Syrian capital of Damascus. In March 2023, Smotrich sparked controversy by giving a speech to a group of pro-Israel activists in Paris from a podium decorated with the map of Jabotinsky’s “Greater Israel” from the old Irgun emblem, including Palestine and Jordan. . . "

Greater Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The "Royal Grant" to Abraham consisting of all the land east of the Brook of Egypt and west of the Euphrates, north of Kadesh and south of Hamath, from a 1919 book by Clarence Larkin.

Israel Sees Sykes-Picot Borders As 'Meaningless' & 'Will Go Where They Want': Trump Envoy​

Israel Sees Sykes-Picot Borders As 'Meaningless' & 'Will Go Where They Want': Trump Envoy | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Israel sees Sykes-Picot borders as 'meaningless', US envoy Tom Barrack says​

Barrack says Lebanese Armed Forces will not disarm Hezbollah, and Syria will not join the Abraham Accords

Israel sees Sykes-Picot borders as 'meaningless', US envoy Tom Barrack says

Barrack says Lebanese Armed Forces will not disarm Hezbollah, and Syria will not join the Abraham Accords

www.middleeasteye.net

 

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Without Likud, America Is Licked

For a hundred years, all the attacks on Israel have been part of the same war brought home to us on 9/11. The retaliation to that, led by an unpatriotic and ignorant coward, was such a massive and expensive failure that Americans want to forget about it and refuse to see the connection of it with the present war on the Jews.