Trump's deportation vow alarms Texas construction industry

A machinist is different than someone working on the assembly line. Especially when speaking about something as advanced as aerospace. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

You are still dodging the question as to why these people are so obsessed with returning these jobs when they are already doing so great!
That is your characterization. Obsessions are a thing of the left.

You claimed: "The Trump base are people who can’t compete in today’s economy and live off of handouts. They will continue to live off of handouts one way or another."

I just pointed out that is BS. Trump's base is the working class of America, and they don't want handouts. They want decent jobs, and they want to have a few bucks left over, after they pay their bills and feed their families.
 
‘“The Trump campaign assumes that employers would simply replace the deported workers with native workers, but the historical record shows that employer behavior is far more complicated than that,” according to a PIIE story about the research on Sept. 26. “Past experience with deportations demonstrates that employers do not find it easy to replace such workers. Instead, they respond by investing in less labor-intensive technologies to sustain their businesses, or they simply decide not to expand their operations. The net result is fewer people employed in key business sectors like services, agriculture, and manufacturing. In addition, those unauthorized immigrants aren’t just workers—they’re consumers too. Deporting them means less demand for groceries, housing, services, and other household needs. This lower spending in turn reduces demand for workers in those sectors. That reduced demand for workers in all types of jobs outweighs the reduction of supply of unauthorized workers. Contrary to the Trump campaign’s assumption that deporting workers increases domestic employment, removing immigrants reduces jobs for other US workers.”

The researchers also warn, as did the authors of the literature review published by the University of New Hampshire, that mass deportations will spike inflation in the short term.

“On the whole, unauthorized immigrants act as complements for US-born workers rather than substitutes for them,” Chloe East, an associate professor in economics at the University of Colorado and a non-resident fellow at Brookings Institution, told us via email. “My research has found that one of the last mass deportation episodes in the US, which deported about 400,000 people over 2008-2014, actually hurt the US labor market and job prospects for US-born workers. For every 100 people removed from the labor market because of deportations, 9 US-born people lost a job permanently.’


Trump Cult members don’t care about the facts, blinded by racism, bigotry, and hate.
 
That is your characterization. Obsessions are a thing of the left.

You claimed: "The Trump base are people who can’t compete in today’s economy and live off of handouts. They will continue to live off of handouts one way or another."

I just pointed out that is BS. Trump's base is the working class of America, and they don't want handouts. They want decent jobs, and they want to have a few bucks left over, after they pay their bills and feed their families.
Your example is an extreme and proves nothing. We aren’t talking about edge cases by the population as a whole.

There are good working class jobs, but not an infinite supply of them. These working class people expect jobs to be available for good pay and that itself is demanding a handout when the only way to achieve that goal is protectionist foreign policy paid for by the rest of us who took the time and effort to advance our skills.

It’s really not that different than welfare.
 
That doesn’t seem right. Trump country is among the most economically depressed in the nation. Are you sure that your base aren’t the people leeching off welfare? The “working class” take Medicaid, food stamps, and wind up on disability at high rates. The college educated, who voted for Dems in larger numbers, are far less likely to use these benefits.
Nope….its your people leeching off welfare: the Democrats in the inner-cities, sponging off of other people and not working at all.

You think the workng class - the car mechanic, the HVAC technician, the truck driver - earning $60k a year get Medicaid and free shit? They are working hard, but struggling to pay the rent and buy groceries under Bideninflation.
 
Nope….its your people leeching off welfare: the Democrats in the inner-cities, sponging off of other people and not working at all.

You think the workng class - the car mechanic, the HVAC technician, the truck driver - earning $60k a year get Medicaid and free shit? They are working hard, but struggling to pay the rent and buy groceries under Bideninflation.
Ha! Have you ever been to rural America? They LOVE welfare out there. Half of them are on disability and Medicaid. They don’t earn $60k in rural America driving truck. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
 
‘“The Trump campaign assumes that employers would simply replace the deported workers with native workers, but the historical record shows that employer behavior is far more complicated than that,” according to a PIIE story about the research on Sept. 26. “Past experience with deportations demonstrates that employers do not find it easy to replace such workers. Instead, they respond by investing in less labor-intensive technologies to sustain their businesses, or they simply decide not to expand their operations. The net result is fewer people employed in key business sectors like services, agriculture, and manufacturing. In addition, those unauthorized immigrants aren’t just workers—they’re consumers too. Deporting them means less demand for groceries, housing, services, and other household needs. This lower spending in turn reduces demand for workers in those sectors. That reduced demand for workers in all types of jobs outweighs the reduction of supply of unauthorized workers. Contrary to the Trump campaign’s assumption that deporting workers increases domestic employment, removing immigrants reduces jobs for other US workers.”

The researchers also warn, as did the authors of the literature review published by the University of New Hampshire, that mass deportations will spike inflation in the short term.

“On the whole, unauthorized immigrants act as complements for US-born workers rather than substitutes for them,” Chloe East, an associate professor in economics at the University of Colorado and a non-resident fellow at Brookings Institution, told us via email. “My research has found that one of the last mass deportation episodes in the US, which deported about 400,000 people over 2008-2014, actually hurt the US labor market and job prospects for US-born workers. For every 100 people removed from the labor market because of deportations, 9 US-born people lost a job permanently.’


Trump Cult members don’t care about the facts, blinded by racism, bigotry, and hate.
Yeah, the employers don’t find it easy to find Americans to take these jobs because the Dems are giving out welfare like candy. Hell, if I were given a choice between working at McDonalds or just hanging out all day by having other people cover my bills, I’d choose welfare tool (Well, actually I wouldn’t, because I have too much pride to take government charity, but plenty of welfare leeches do.)

Cut the welfare, and watch the jobs fill up quick.
 
Ha! Have you ever been to rural America? They LOVE welfare out there. Half of them are on disability and Medicaid. They don’t earn $60k in rural America driving truck. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Rural America isn’t as populated as inner-city welfare leeches in blue cities. That’s why a greater percentage of Democrats are on welfare than Reoublicans.
 
Your example is an extreme and proves nothing. We aren’t talking about edge cases by the population as a whole.

There are good working class jobs, but not an infinite supply of them. These working class people expect jobs to be available for good pay and that itself is demanding a handout when the only way to achieve that goal is protectionist foreign policy paid for by the rest of us who took the time and effort to advance our skills.

It’s really not that different than welfare.
The loss of manufacturing jobs was a policy decision, to allow companies to offshore their production to low wage countries that have no environmental or labor standards. The trade-off was to get those countries to buy US AG products.

Monsanto wins, the UAW loses. Or the workers at GE or Maytag, or wherever. It's all of them.

You want the cheap television, you don't really care about the workers that are displaced to get it to you.
 
It's not a question of farmers or construction companies not being able to find workers- that is a total red herring.

Workers can be brought in legally to fill those jobs that are currently held by illegals. We can have guest workers who register to work, are vetted for criminal histories, and who will pay taxes and have gainful employment while they are here.
 
‘"It would devastate our industry, we wouldn't finish our highways, we wouldn't finish our schools," said Stan Marek, CEO of Marek, a Houston-based commercial and residential construction giant. "Housing would disappear. I think they'd lose half their labor." Talk of a mass round up comes as Texas is booming. Texas cities regularly appear on lists of the country's fastest growing communities, and construction cranes and workers donning safety vests are common sites in most major cities.

That Texas relies on undocumented labor is one of the state's open secrets, despite Republicans' tough-on-immigration stances. In 2022, more than a half million immigrants worked in the construction industry, according to a report by the American Immigration Council and Texans for Economic Growth. Nearly 60% of that workforce was undocumented.

"The state needs to leverage both U.S.-born and immigrant talent to fill construction jobs that power the Texas economy," the report notes. "It's not remotely practical to round up and deport everybody," said economist Ray Perryman, the president and CEO of the Waco-based Perryman Group.’


Industries devastated by rightwing racism, bigotry, and hate – conservatives are truly this stupid and ignorant.
Meh, fearmongering.

Leave it you C_Clayton_Jones the supposed lover of the rule of law, to bash the law when it suites your racist needs.
 
There is no mental problems with aspiring to more than having kids. Deal with itm
Thats when the cat ladies and soi boys are young

The mental problems peak when they are old and alone
 
A machinist is different than someone working on the assembly line. Especially when speaking about something as advanced as aerospace. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
Isnt being a soda jerk pretty much like working on an assembly line?
 
Thats when the cat ladies and soi boys are young

The mental problems peak when they are old and alone
Ohh no it's sooooo soooo hard to be alone....good God talk about pathetic.
 
Ohh no it's sooooo soooo hard to be alone....good God talk about pathetic.
I wouldnt know

You tell us all about it

Its sad for someone to die and not even their cats miss them
 
Rural America isn’t as populated as inner-city welfare leeches in blue cities. That’s why a greater percentage of Democrats are on welfare than Reoublicans.
Those welfare leeches swung to Trump and won him the election. The college educated tax payers swung to Harris.

There’s a realignment in the country. The low skill, low wage, welfare loving people vote Trump. The high skill, high wage, taxpayers vote Dem.

Trump’s whole agenda is aimed to redistribute wealth down to his base.
 
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Isnt being a soda jerk pretty much like working on an assembly line?
Pretty much. Difference is that’s what your base aspires to. Our base aspires to much more and are willing to work for it.
 
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Those welfare leeches swung to Trump and won him the election. The college educated tax payers swung to Harris.

There’s a realignment in the country. The low skill, low wage, welfare loving people vote Trump. The high skill, high wage, taxpayers vote Dem.

Trump’s whole agenda is aimed to redistribute wealth down to his base.
No…..the WORKING CLASS whom your side demeans and ignores swung to Trump. The welfare leeches continued to vote for more free stuff from Dems.

You remain totally clueless as to why your side loss, which is why you will lose again. Fine with me
 
Pretty much. Difference is that’s what your base aspires to. Our base aspires to much more and are willing to work for it.
You are such a sanctimonious liberal. Your side is content to remain on welfare, vote for Democrats to keep the freebies going, and live off of other people’s money.
 
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