Trumpery corrupts NOAA: NOAA staff warned against 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments

[Missouri_Mike]

Note the warning "after Trump comments".

Donald Trump has corrupted every branch of the American government and turned NOAA into a political tool.

"A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm."

NOAA then proceeded to defend Trump's weather forecasting skills.

Donald Trump has corrupted government agencies forever. They will never recover even after the Trump management in government agencies is expunged.

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report
BY JUSTIN WISE - 09/08/19 07:33 AM EDT 2,220
12,816

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reportedly warned its staff against providing information beyond official forecasts just hours after President Trump claimed in a tweet that Alabama could be impacted by Hurricane Dorian.
The agency issued the directive on Sept. 1, according to an email obtained by The Washington Post.
The email, which was sent to National Weather Service (NWS) personnel, told employees to "stick with official National Hurricane Center forecasts if questions arise from some national level social media posts which hit the news this afternoon."
The Post noted that the email also cautioned staff against providing "any opinion" when faced with questions about the hurricane.
A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm.
NOAA reportedly sent a similar message after Trump showed off a map that appeared to alter Dorian's original path projection with a marker.
“This is the first time I’ve felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast,” the meteorologist said to the Post. “It’s hard for me to wrap my head around."
A National Weather Service spokesperson told The Hill that the directive was sent as part of an effort to avoid distractions.
"NWS leadership sent guidance to field staff so they (and the entire agency) could maintain operational focus on Dorian and other severe weather hazards without distraction. The guidance made no reference to the president," the spokesperson said in a statement.
An anonymous NOAA official told the Post that there was no "political motivation" behind the statement. Acting NOAA Administrator Neil Jacobs and NOAA Director of Public Affairs Julie Kay Roberts were reportedly involved in writing the statement. Commerce Department leadership ultimately approved its release, the Post reported.
NOAA did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.
Trump faced widespread pushback last week after stating that Alabama would potentially feel the effects of Dorian. The president continued to defend his statement throughout the week and at one point displayed a map in the Oval Office that appeared to show a marker-drawn addition to indicate that the hurricane would hit the southern edge of the state.
NOAA officials on Friday released an unsigned statement affirming Trump's claims. The statement also disavowed the tweet from the National Weather Service in Birmingham about the hurricane.
The statement sparked backlash from many quarters of the scientific community and within the NWS.
“These are the people risking their lives flying into hurricanes and putting out forecasts that save lives. Never before has their management undercut their scientifically sound reasoning and forecasts,” Dan Sobien, who heads the National Weather Service Employees Organization representing thousands of employees working under NOAA, told The Daily Beast.
The anonymous NOAA official told the Post that the statement called out Birmingham's office because one NOAA hurricane forecast showed a chance of tropical storm-force winds hitting a small part of Alabama.

I don’t get you people. You’re fucking crazy.

You expect NOAA to be upset because Trump said something they predicted that didn’t work out. But we should all take their predictions as gospel right up until they aren’t.

I’m still waiting on that I’ve age I was promised in the 70’s BTW.

Trump has so much dirt on him a direct hurricane hit on Trump to clean him up would be beneficial to America.

Do you even know WTF we’re talking about here?

You're fantasizing about time travel and a trip back to the 70's?

I hope you are dropped in 1970's Vietnam if your wish is granted.

You don’t really follow conversations well. I was wanting to know how these climate experts keep getting shit wrong all the time.

What that has to do with Nam I’m not sure. You’re brain doesn’t function correctly.

 

[Denizen]

Note the warning "after Trump comments".

Donald Trump has corrupted every branch of the American government and turned NOAA into a political tool.

"A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm."

NOAA then proceeded to defend Trump's weather forecasting skills.

Donald Trump has corrupted government agencies forever. They will never recover even after the Trump management in government agencies is expunged.

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report

I don’t get you people. You’re fucking crazy.

You expect NOAA to be upset because Trump said something they predicted that didn’t work out. But we should all take their predictions as gospel right up until they aren’t.

I’m still waiting on that I’ve age I was promised in the 70’s BTW.

Trump has so much dirt on him a direct hurricane hit on Trump to clean him up would be beneficial to America.

Do you even know WTF we’re talking about here?

You're fantasizing about time travel and a trip back to the 70's?

I hope you are dropped in 1970's Vietnam if your wish is granted.

You don’t really follow conversations well. I was wanting to know how these climate experts keep getting shit wrong all the time.

What that has to do with Nam I’m not sure. You’re brain doesn’t function correctly.

I would have to subject myself to the mindless indoctrination by lies at a Trump rally to be able to communicate with you.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

NOAA Chief Scientist Says Move To Contradict Agency And Back Trump Was 'Political'


So the liberal scientists got totally owned when they tried to contradict what Trump said about the path of Hurricane Dorian. Trump said the initial hurricane models were projected to hit Alabama, but the commie socialist scientists wanted to try to embarrass our president and contradicted him.

Luckily, real patriotic Americans over at NOAA stood up for freedom and backed Trump's account of the hurricane path -- this no doubt totally triggered the libs...The NOAA basically bitch-slapped the national weather service in Alabama for sending out that tweet to contradict Trump....from the article:

"NOAA, which is part of the Commerce Department, issued a statement taking the NWS to task, saying, "The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time."


It is vital to the survival of our democracy that our government agencies are on the same page with the President, and if the president says something, that is what the reality should be. So for any government agency to have the audacity to go against what our president says, they should be fired at the very least, if not jailed. Kudos to Wilbur Ross and the top officials at NOAA for clearing things up and putting these libs in their place. Trump knows the weather, MAGA!

 

[Penelope]

No they just wanted to make the truth known. Not trying to embarrass anyone.

Ross should be fired.

Willard (the rat) Ross needs to step down, for encouraging a lie.

 

[Erinwltr]

Oh, I really dig a satirical OP.

 

[Taz]

NOAA Chief Scientist Says Move To Contradict Agency And Back Trump Was 'Political'


So the liberal scientists got totally owned when they tried to contradict what Trump said about the path of Hurricane Dorian. Trump said the initial hurricane models were projected to hit Alabama, but the commie socialist scientists wanted to try to embarrass our president and contradicted him.

Luckily, real patriotic Americans over at NOAA stood up for freedom and backed Trump's account of the hurricane path -- this no doubt totally triggered the libs...The NOAA basically bitch-slapped the national weather service in Alabama for sending out that tweet to contradict Trump....from the article:

"NOAA, which is part of the Commerce Department, issued a statement taking the NWS to task, saying, "The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time."


It is vital to the survival of our democracy that our government agencies are on the same page with the President, and if the president says something, that is what the reality should be. So for any government agency to have the audacity to go against what our president says, they should be fired at the very least, if not jailed. Kudos to Wilbur Ross and the top officials at NOAA for clearing things up and putting these libs in their place. Trump knows the weather, MAGA!

So weather is based on what Trump says, not what scientists say?

 

[Godboy]

NOAA Chief Scientist Says Move To Contradict Agency And Back Trump Was 'Political'


So the liberal scientists got totally owned when they tried to contradict what Trump said about the path of Hurricane Dorian. Trump said the initial hurricane models were projected to hit Alabama, but the commie socialist scientists wanted to try to embarrass our president and contradicted him.

Luckily, real patriotic Americans over at NOAA stood up for freedom and backed Trump's account of the hurricane path -- this no doubt totally triggered the libs...The NOAA basically bitch-slapped the national weather service in Alabama for sending out that tweet to contradict Trump....from the article:

"NOAA, which is part of the Commerce Department, issued a statement taking the NWS to task, saying, "The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time."


It is vital to the survival of our democracy that our government agencies are on the same page with the President, and if the president says something, that is what the reality should be. So for any government agency to have the audacity to go against what our president says, they should be fired at the very least, if not jailed. Kudos to Wilbur Ross and the top officials at NOAA for clearing things up and putting these libs in their place. Trump knows the weather, MAGA!

Wow, you guys even make weather predictions political.

 

[Godboy]

No they just wanted to make the truth known. Not trying to embarrass anyone.

Ross should be fired.

Willard (the rat) Ross needs to step down, for encouraging a lie.

Fired over a weather prediction?

 

[Oddball]

Here we fucking go again, with yet another stupid thread on this nonsense.

Why can't you moonbats just let this bullshit go?

ibtl

 

[iceberg]

How big of a tantrum did Trump pitch until he forced one of his appointees to put out that unsigned statement? Our president is a spoiled child who can't even admit the smallest mistake.

and how bad do you have to be before you go OOPS on RUSSIA???

you ever get tired of upping your hypocrisy levels?

 

[busybee01]

Note the warning "after Trump comments".

Donald Trump has corrupted every branch of the American government and turned NOAA into a political tool.

"A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm."

NOAA then proceeded to defend Trump's weather forecasting skills.

Donald Trump has corrupted government agencies forever. They will never recover even after the Trump management in government agencies is expunged.

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report
BY JUSTIN WISE - 09/08/19 07:33 AM EDT 2,220
12,816

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reportedly warned its staff against providing information beyond official forecasts just hours after President Trump claimed in a tweet that Alabama could be impacted by Hurricane Dorian.
The agency issued the directive on Sept. 1, according to an email obtained by The Washington Post.
The email, which was sent to National Weather Service (NWS) personnel, told employees to "stick with official National Hurricane Center forecasts if questions arise from some national level social media posts which hit the news this afternoon."
The Post noted that the email also cautioned staff against providing "any opinion" when faced with questions about the hurricane.
A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm.
NOAA reportedly sent a similar message after Trump showed off a map that appeared to alter Dorian's original path projection with a marker.
“This is the first time I’ve felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast,” the meteorologist said to the Post. “It’s hard for me to wrap my head around."
A National Weather Service spokesperson told The Hill that the directive was sent as part of an effort to avoid distractions.
"NWS leadership sent guidance to field staff so they (and the entire agency) could maintain operational focus on Dorian and other severe weather hazards without distraction. The guidance made no reference to the president," the spokesperson said in a statement.
An anonymous NOAA official told the Post that there was no "political motivation" behind the statement. Acting NOAA Administrator Neil Jacobs and NOAA Director of Public Affairs Julie Kay Roberts were reportedly involved in writing the statement. Commerce Department leadership ultimately approved its release, the Post reported.
NOAA did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.
Trump faced widespread pushback last week after stating that Alabama would potentially feel the effects of Dorian. The president continued to defend his statement throughout the week and at one point displayed a map in the Oval Office that appeared to show a marker-drawn addition to indicate that the hurricane would hit the southern edge of the state.
NOAA officials on Friday released an unsigned statement affirming Trump's claims. The statement also disavowed the tweet from the National Weather Service in Birmingham about the hurricane.
The statement sparked backlash from many quarters of the scientific community and within the NWS.
“These are the people risking their lives flying into hurricanes and putting out forecasts that save lives. Never before has their management undercut their scientifically sound reasoning and forecasts,” Dan Sobien, who heads the National Weather Service Employees Organization representing thousands of employees working under NOAA, told The Daily Beast.
The anonymous NOAA official told the Post that the statement called out Birmingham's office because one NOAA hurricane forecast showed a chance of tropical storm-force winds hitting a small part of Alabama.

It went far beyond that. Wilbur Ross threatened to fire NOAA officials who refused to back Trump. The NWS in Birmingham clarified Trump's statement and pressure was applied to NOAA to back Trump.

Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Hurricane Tweets, Sources Say

That is so bizarre.

Trump and his supporters are bizarre. Trump made a mistake and the NWS corrected it. Trump instead of admitting his mistake bullies NOAA into backing him. Turning a non-political agency into a political agency. Wilbur Ross should be prosecuted.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Mod Edit: enough please, read the rules, if you have an issue with moderation pm one us, do not discuss it on the open boards.

 

[BlindBoo]

NOAA Chief Scientist Says Move To Contradict Agency And Back Trump Was 'Political'


So the liberal scientists got totally owned when they tried to contradict what Trump said about the path of Hurricane Dorian. Trump said the initial hurricane models were projected to hit Alabama, but the commie socialist scientists wanted to try to embarrass our president and contradicted him.

Luckily, real patriotic Americans over at NOAA stood up for freedom and backed Trump's account of the hurricane path -- this no doubt totally triggered the libs...The NOAA basically bitch-slapped the national weather service in Alabama for sending out that tweet to contradict Trump....from the article:

"NOAA, which is part of the Commerce Department, issued a statement taking the NWS to task, saying, "The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time."


It is vital to the survival of our democracy that our government agencies are on the same page with the President, and if the president says something, that is what the reality should be. So for any government agency to have the audacity to go against what our president says, they should be fired at the very least, if not jailed. Kudos to Wilbur Ross and the top officials at NOAA for clearing things up and putting these libs in their place. Trump knows the weather, MAGA!

I agree 1000% The Emperor has the finest clothes in all the land. Never ever call him naked.

 

[Coyote]

How big of a tantrum did Trump pitch until he forced one of his appointees to put out that unsigned statement? Our president is a spoiled child who can't even admit the smallest mistake.

and how bad do you have to be before you go OOPS on RUSSIA???

you ever get tired of upping your hypocrisy levels?

The president is ising political power in very qiestionable waus here. That is a real concern.

 

[iceberg]

How big of a tantrum did Trump pitch until he forced one of his appointees to put out that unsigned statement? Our president is a spoiled child who can't even admit the smallest mistake.

and how bad do you have to be before you go OOPS on RUSSIA???

you ever get tired of upping your hypocrisy levels?

The president is ising political power in very qiestionable waus here. That is a real concern.

So was Obama executive ordering everything. When you don't stop it cause your side is doing it, expect the other side to say "hold my beer" when their turn.

 

[iceberg]

Note the warning "after Trump comments".

Donald Trump has corrupted every branch of the American government and turned NOAA into a political tool.

"A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm."

NOAA then proceeded to defend Trump's weather forecasting skills.

Donald Trump has corrupted government agencies forever. They will never recover even after the Trump management in government agencies is expunged.

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report

NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian after Trump comments: report
BY JUSTIN WISE - 09/08/19 07:33 AM EDT 2,220
12,816

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reportedly warned its staff against providing information beyond official forecasts just hours after President Trump claimed in a tweet that Alabama could be impacted by Hurricane Dorian.
The agency issued the directive on Sept. 1, according to an email obtained by The Washington Post.
The email, which was sent to National Weather Service (NWS) personnel, told employees to "stick with official National Hurricane Center forecasts if questions arise from some national level social media posts which hit the news this afternoon."
The Post noted that the email also cautioned staff against providing "any opinion" when faced with questions about the hurricane.
A NOAA meteorologist told the newspaper that the message was interpreted internally as a reference to the president's comments. Shortly after Trump said Dorian could reach Alabama, the National Weather Service's Birmingham branch emphasized in a tweet that the state would not be affected by the storm.
NOAA reportedly sent a similar message after Trump showed off a map that appeared to alter Dorian's original path projection with a marker.
“This is the first time I’ve felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast,” the meteorologist said to the Post. “It’s hard for me to wrap my head around."
A National Weather Service spokesperson told The Hill that the directive was sent as part of an effort to avoid distractions.
"NWS leadership sent guidance to field staff so they (and the entire agency) could maintain operational focus on Dorian and other severe weather hazards without distraction. The guidance made no reference to the president," the spokesperson said in a statement.
An anonymous NOAA official told the Post that there was no "political motivation" behind the statement. Acting NOAA Administrator Neil Jacobs and NOAA Director of Public Affairs Julie Kay Roberts were reportedly involved in writing the statement. Commerce Department leadership ultimately approved its release, the Post reported.
NOAA did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.
Trump faced widespread pushback last week after stating that Alabama would potentially feel the effects of Dorian. The president continued to defend his statement throughout the week and at one point displayed a map in the Oval Office that appeared to show a marker-drawn addition to indicate that the hurricane would hit the southern edge of the state.
NOAA officials on Friday released an unsigned statement affirming Trump's claims. The statement also disavowed the tweet from the National Weather Service in Birmingham about the hurricane.
The statement sparked backlash from many quarters of the scientific community and within the NWS.
“These are the people risking their lives flying into hurricanes and putting out forecasts that save lives. Never before has their management undercut their scientifically sound reasoning and forecasts,” Dan Sobien, who heads the National Weather Service Employees Organization representing thousands of employees working under NOAA, told The Daily Beast.
The anonymous NOAA official told the Post that the statement called out Birmingham's office because one NOAA hurricane forecast showed a chance of tropical storm-force winds hitting a small part of Alabama.

It went far beyond that. Wilbur Ross threatened to fire NOAA officials who refused to back Trump. The NWS in Birmingham clarified Trump's statement and pressure was applied to NOAA to back Trump.

Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Hurricane Tweets, Sources Say

That is so bizarre.

Trump and his supporters are bizarre. Trump made a mistake and the NWS corrected it. Trump instead of admitting his mistake bullies NOAA into backing him. Turning a non-political agency into a political agency. Wilbur Ross should be prosecuted.

We've been politicizing agencies for 1 sides benefit for awhile now. This is what happens when you are ok when your side does it.

No one seems to realize they are NOT getting one over, but pushing our own collective standards further away.

 

[Siete]

How big of a tantrum did Trump pitch until he forced one of his appointees to put out that unsigned statement? Our president is a spoiled child who can't even admit the smallest mistake.

and how bad do you have to be before you go OOPS on RUSSIA???

you ever get tired of upping your hypocrisy levels?

The president is ising political power in very qiestionable waus here. That is a real concern.

president ?

WHERE?

try DICTATOR.

kiss his fat ass or YOU'RE FIRED !

 

[Coyote]

How big of a tantrum did Trump pitch until he forced one of his appointees to put out that unsigned statement? Our president is a spoiled child who can't even admit the smallest mistake.

and how bad do you have to be before you go OOPS on RUSSIA???

you ever get tired of upping your hypocrisy levels?

The president is ising political power in very qiestionable waus here. That is a real concern.

So was Obama executive ordering everything. When you don't stop it cause your side is doing it, expect the other side to say "hold my beer" when their turn.

I am not talking executive orders, which can be legally challenged in court. Is it possible to discuss Trumps actions with out a but but Obama?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Here we fucking go again, with yet another stupid thread on this nonsense.

Why can't you moonbats just let this bullshit go?

ibtl

"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.."

 

[BlindBoo]

How big of a tantrum did Trump pitch until he forced one of his appointees to put out that unsigned statement? Our president is a spoiled child who can't even admit the smallest mistake.

and how bad do you have to be before you go OOPS on RUSSIA???

you ever get tired of upping your hypocrisy levels?

The president is ising political power in very qiestionable waus here. That is a real concern.

So was Obama executive ordering everything. When you don't stop it cause your side is doing it, expect the other side to say "hold my beer" when their turn.

When Obama issued his Executive Order to close prison at Guantanamo Bay, didn't the Democrats block him? In 2009.