Trump will announce end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, officials say

[Curried Goats]

Section 5​

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


FACT: Considering there is no federal statute, nor a Supreme Court case deciding that a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national is a U.S. citizenship upon birth, mere current unwritten policy grants citizenship to a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national.

FACT: The good news is, Trump can change current federal unwritten policy with a stroke of his pen.

You're hoping the Supreme Court interprets it the way you want it to, I get that. I'm just pointing out the fact that the original intent can't be meant to exclude a class of people that didn't even exist at the time of its writing.

 

[Mac-7]

You guys wanted to impeach Biden for doing things the court said he couldn’t do.

Even the Nazi’s convinced themselves that what they did was necessary and right

 

[TimFitz]

It will certainly by challenged in the courts and probably be delayed for years

But it puts the ball in the globalist court and is desperately needed

So way to go Trump

We all knew that Trump has no respect for the Constitution. He has demonstrated it many many times,

“But it puts the ball in the globalist court and is desperately needed"

This is totally meaningless, perhaps you can explain it. I Don’t have high expectations.

 

[Marener]

Even the Naxi’s convinced themselves that what they did was necessary and right

Yes, like the Capitol rioters who labeled themselves patriots and have been given hero status among MAGA.

 

[johnwk]

That link is for babies born outside of the United States, as my daughter was. Since I'm an American citizen all I needed to do for her was file a consulars report for a birth abroad.

Automatic U.S. Citizenship for Children Born to or Adopted by Citizen Parents (Acquisition)

Child Born Between November 14, 1986, and June 11, 2017​

If at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens, married, and at least one had a prior residence in the U.S., you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no other conditions for keeping it.

If your parents were married, but only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have been physically present in the U.S. for at least five years before your birth, and at least two of those years must have been after your parent reached the age of 14.

If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and your birth was out of wedlock (took place while your parents weren't married), the same rules apply, provided you were legally legitimated (your father acknowledged paternal responsibility) prior to your 18th birthday.

If you were born out of wedlock and your one U.S. citizen parent is your mother (or if your father was a U.S. citizen as well, but you were not legally legitimated), your mother will need proof that she has one year of continuous physical presence in the U.S. prior to your birth.

 

[johnwk]

You're hoping the Supreme Court interprets it the way you want it to, I get that. I'm just pointing out the fact that the original intent can't be meant to exclude a class of people that didn't even exist at the time of its writing.

I'm not hoping. I'm stating facts.

We are talking about the here and now, and the 14th Amendment and its legislative intent.

 

[Curried Goats]

Automatic U.S. Citizenship for Children Born to or Adopted by Citizen Parents (Acquisition)

Child Born Between November 14, 1986, and June 11, 2017​

If at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens, married, and at least one had a prior residence in the U.S., you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no other conditions for keeping it.

If your parents were married, but only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have been physically present in the U.S. for at least five years before your birth, and at least two of those years must have been after your parent reached the age of 14.

If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and your birth was out of wedlock (took place while your parents weren't married), the same rules apply, provided you were legally legitimated (your father acknowledged paternal responsibility) prior to your 18th birthday.

If you were born out of wedlock and your one U.S. citizen parent is your mother (or if your father was a U.S. citizen as well, but you were not legally legitimated), your mother will need proof that she has one year of continuous physical presence in the U.S. prior to your birth.

Did you read the first paragraph of that link you Dipshit? It gives important information on what the rest is all about.

A child who is born to or adopted by U.S. citizen parents (or in some cases, to only one U.S. citizen parent) outside the United States may, depending on timing, automatically become a U.S. citizen. This is called "acquisition" of U.S. citizenship.

 

[Curried Goats]

I'm not hoping. I'm stating facts.

We are talking about the here and now, and the 14th Amendment.

And the original intent of the 14th can't have anything to say about illegals since they weren't a class of people. Are you hoping the adherents to original intent on the Supreme Court are ignorant of this fact?

 

[johnwk]

Did you read the first paragraph of that link you Dipshit? It gives important information on what the rest is all about.

A child who is born to or adopted by U.S. citizen parents (or in some cases, to only one U.S. citizen parent) outside the United States may, depending on timing, automatically become a U.S. citizen. This is called "acquisition" of U.S. citizenship.

So, where is the legislation granting birthright citizenship to a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national?

 

[Mac-7]

We all knew that Trump has no respect for the Constitution. He has demonstrated it many many times,

“But it puts the ball in the globalist court and is desperately needed"

This is totally meaningless, perhaps you can explain it. I Don’t have high expectations.

Trump respects the Constitution

Sometimes he loses in the courts but he always respects their decisions

 

[marvin martian]

I just can’t understand why any American would oppose this? The 14th Amendment is being abused, but for some unknown reason, Democrats want this abuse to continue. Thorough indoctrination is the only explanation.

The reason isn't unknown. DemoKKKrats have always needed a slave labor pool to make their marxist utopia run.

 

[johnwk]

And the original intent of the 14th can't have anything to say about illegals since they weren't a class of people.

Whether the parent are illegal entrants are irrelevant with respect to the legislative intent . . . they are covered by the overall legislative intent:

It has been clearly established that children of " . . . parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty..." as stated by John A. Bingham, are entitled to United States citizenship. But an illegal entrant foreign national who gives birth on American soil owes their allegiance to their home country, and thus, their offspring as indicated by Bingham, Senator Trumbull, SLAUGHTER-HOUSE CASES, and Elk v. Wilkins, are not entitled to United States citizenship upon birth.

 

[kyzr]

Whether the parent are illegal entrants are irrelevant with respect to the legislative intent . . . they are covered by the overall legislative intent:

It has been clearly established that children of " . . . parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty..." as stated by John A. Bingham, are entitled to United States citizenship. But an illegal entrant foreign national who gives birth on American soil owes their allegiance to their home country, and thus, their offspring as indicated by Bingham, Senator Trumbull, SLAUGHTER-HOUSE CASES, and Elk v. Wilkins, are not entitled to United States citizenship upon birth.

The legislative intent is that citizens make citizens, non-citizens do not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's time the issue was addressed. Decide in the courts or have Congressional clarification.

Congress cannot clarify the Constitution. The courts have already decided in 1898. Want it changed? Amend the Constitution or forever be subjected to the current wording if that is what you want.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The courts can rule that the amendment has been interpreted wrong.

No, they cannot without finding support for the new interpretation which does not exist. In other words, where else does it say that a child born to illegals here is not a US citizen at birth? That's been case law for 127 years.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This was an amendment to the Constitution that was impmented for a specific purpose that did not include people legally or illegally crossing our borders and having babies that are citizens. Why are Democrats in favor of interpreting the 14th in such a way that harms the US? Weird.

It was interpreted that way in 1898. Nothing recent because it was always seen as acceptable.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The legislative intent is that citizens make citizens, non-citizens do not.

Really? Where did you dig that up? Or did you pull it from your posterior?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You don’t see how it harms our country when pregnant women can come to the US, even legally, and have a baby that is a US citizen that is now dependent on the US government?

You can always send the illegals home.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The mom and the child get benefits. You don’t think illegals cross the border to take advantage of this? They also don’t pay for their hospital bill. You guys don’t think things through.

Deport the mom. The benefits are for the child if an only if the parent leaves them behind when deported.

 

[WEATHER53]

Thinking, law, discipline and responsibility are back
Lib loons can’t do those but will now have to learn