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Trump Was the Biggest Loser Last Night and That's a Good Thing

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And yet, you still don't have what you want, and meanwhile I made you look like a fool twice. And it was easy.
I simply asked you to back up your claim and then watched you frantically scamper away like the little bitch you are.

You do this every single time. Every. Single. Time. If you think this is an effective debate strategy, then you’re an idiot.

You guys are so bad at this.
 

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I mostly agree with you, but you realize the cretins will attempt to poison Ron DeSantis just the way they did Trump.

It's all they know.
From what I saw last night the cretins are using DeSantis' win to inflame Trump's ego goading him into attacking Ron.
 

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Yeah, because Trump's ego just could never do that on its own. :rolleyes:
Didn't say that, but you have the media and Karl Rove types knowing exactly what buttons to push to get Trump aggro
 

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Of course not. He's too much of a narcissist to do the smart thing. It's going to be a civil war in the GOP over the next two years.
You've already lost the civil war.
 

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Damn, that's a lot of bloviating but yeah, "Trump needs to go away 'cause FL has showed us the way." ;)

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Against Charlie Crist... Former Republican governor of Florida.

Florida Democrats declined to vote for Republican lite.

Color me shocked.
 

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Against Charlie Crist... Former Republican governor of Florida.

Florida Democrats declined to vote for Republican lite.

Color me shocked.
Charlie bragged about his tax breaks. But that as a Repub. Now he is for tax increases. This is the real issue. How politicians can change not some views but sides so easily. Progs vote pure socialism/communism now. Everything is a mandate. And Charlie is part of it.
 

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Biden purchases 3 out of 4 votes in the 18-30 age range by promising to forgive their student loan debt...yet it's Trump's fault there wasn't a red wave. Riiiiiiiight. By the way those morons just got screwed, the courts have ruled it unconstitutional. :auiqs.jpg:
 

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DeSantis will wait. He's 44 now. He'll be like 49 or 50 in the 2028 election season.

DeSantis lets Trump destroy the Republican party in 2024. No skin off his back.

Then he swoops in as the Great White Republican savior. After all, he knows he can count on 90% of the media writhing in orgasmic glee as they sing his praises, same as they did for Trump in 2016.
 

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As I said two months ago, I wanted Republicans to lose the midterms. not because I want Democrats to win or that I support their agenda, but because it's necessary for Trumpism to be destroyed in order to save the Republican Party. I'm fairly pleased with last night's results. The Republicans look on track to eek out just a small majority in the House, far less than expectations, and at best they might be able to hold a 50/50 Senate again. Either Nevada or Arizona will have to flip to counter Pennsylvania, assuming Ron Johnson hangs on in Wisconsin, and both are looking iffy right now. Dems may end up with 51 seats when all is said and done.

The Dobbs ruling played a major role in this defeat. Women and Gen Z voters were out in historical force infuriated by the abortion ruling. That definitely blunted any red wave, but at the end of the day candidate quality matters and Trump is solely to blame for that. His MAGA picks crashed and burned last night. New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate and Governor, Wisconsin Governor, several House endorsements, all very winnable races, Trump racked up loss after loss after loss. Even his rare winners, like J.D. Vance in Ohio, had to struggle to win in a race that should have been a cakewalk.

Voters sent a clear message to the Republican Party. Trumpism is poison. They rejected the extreme MAGA conspiratorial election deniers at nearly every turn. This, in one of the best electoral environments Republicans had in several election cycles. Contrast that with candidates who rejected Trump, like Brian Kemp and Chris Sununu, who had no problem winning their elections, while their Senate counterparts crapped the bed. Even in some races that Republicans came up short, the ones who rejected Trumpism overperformed their district environment. Hung Cao came within a few points of winning VA-10, a district in northern Virginia that Biden won by 18 points. Allan Fung came within three points of winning Rhode Island's Second District, a district Biden won by almost 30. Lee Zeldin got 46% of the vote in New York in his gubernatorial bid, the best performance by a Republican in New York in two decades, by keeping Trump out of the picture and sticking to a message of cleaning up crime plaguing NYC. Zeldin's excellent performance might end up dragging several Republican House candidates in New York over the finish line. Ironically, the GOP may take the House majority because of New York of all states. Compare these results with MAGA loudmouth Lauren Bobert, who is on the cusp of losing her seat in a safe Republican district in western Colorado.

How anybody could still want Trump as their great white hope in 2024 is pretty astonishing at this point considering what Ron DeSantis did in Florida last night. This was the only state that saw a red wave. DeSantis is on target to win reelection with almost 60% of the vote. He won Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville, all traditional Democratic areas. It seems pretty clear that the path forward for the Republican Party lies in Ron DeSantis as opposed to the toxicity of Donald Trump and yet, despite this, Trump's lawyer had the arrogance to send DeSantis a finely worded threat to stay out of the presidential race.

It's time for Trump supporters to accept the fact that they got lucky in 2016. Two very unpopular candidates ran for president and Trump just managed to squeak out enough votes in key states to win the Electoral College, largely due to Clinton's missteps. Since then he's presided over, now, three election cycles in which the Republican Party has received a thumping. It's more than clear that DeSantis is the path forward for 2024 and Trump is the path of electoral disaster. All over social media today a lot of conservative pundits are finally admitting this. A lot of money and support will undoubtedly shift from Trump to DeSantis in the coming months and the party apparatus will do everything they can to stop Trump in his tracks. The question is how many of the Trump faithful will manage to break themselves out of his hypnotic spell.

Don't expect Trump to go gracefully, though. This is and has always been about his ego. He's going to kick and scream and cry and do everything he can to sabotage the party if he doesn't get his way. The next two years are going to be very bumpy in the GOP.
Why isnt this in the 2022 Election forum?
 

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How about this? Speaker of the House Donald J. Trump? Now that would cause shithead Leftist heads to go nuclear.
 

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As I said two months ago, I wanted Republicans to lose the midterms. not because I want Democrats to win or that I support their agenda, but because it's necessary for Trumpism to be destroyed in order to save the Republican Party. I'm fairly pleased with last night's results. The Republicans look on track to eek out just a small majority in the House, far less than expectations, and at best they might be able to hold a 50/50 Senate again. Either Nevada or Arizona will have to flip to counter Pennsylvania, assuming Ron Johnson hangs on in Wisconsin, and both are looking iffy right now. Dems may end up with 51 seats when all is said and done.

The Dobbs ruling played a major role in this defeat. Women and Gen Z voters were out in historical force infuriated by the abortion ruling. That definitely blunted any red wave, but at the end of the day candidate quality matters and Trump is solely to blame for that. His MAGA picks crashed and burned last night. New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate and Governor, Wisconsin Governor, several House endorsements, all very winnable races, Trump racked up loss after loss after loss. Even his rare winners, like J.D. Vance in Ohio, had to struggle to win in a race that should have been a cakewalk.

Voters sent a clear message to the Republican Party. Trumpism is poison. They rejected the extreme MAGA conspiratorial election deniers at nearly every turn. This, in one of the best electoral environments Republicans had in several election cycles. Contrast that with candidates who rejected Trump, like Brian Kemp and Chris Sununu, who had no problem winning their elections, while their Senate counterparts crapped the bed. Even in some races that Republicans came up short, the ones who rejected Trumpism overperformed their district environment. Hung Cao came within a few points of winning VA-10, a district in northern Virginia that Biden won by 18 points. Allan Fung came within three points of winning Rhode Island's Second District, a district Biden won by almost 30. Lee Zeldin got 46% of the vote in New York in his gubernatorial bid, the best performance by a Republican in New York in two decades, by keeping Trump out of the picture and sticking to a message of cleaning up crime plaguing NYC. Zeldin's excellent performance might end up dragging several Republican House candidates in New York over the finish line. Ironically, the GOP may take the House majority because of New York of all states. Compare these results with MAGA loudmouth Lauren Bobert, who is on the cusp of losing her seat in a safe Republican district in western Colorado.

How anybody could still want Trump as their great white hope in 2024 is pretty astonishing at this point considering what Ron DeSantis did in Florida last night. This was the only state that saw a red wave. DeSantis is on target to win reelection with almost 60% of the vote. He won Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville, all traditional Democratic areas. It seems pretty clear that the path forward for the Republican Party lies in Ron DeSantis as opposed to the toxicity of Donald Trump and yet, despite this, Trump's lawyer had the arrogance to send DeSantis a finely worded threat to stay out of the presidential race.

It's time for Trump supporters to accept the fact that they got lucky in 2016. Two very unpopular candidates ran for president and Trump just managed to squeak out enough votes in key states to win the Electoral College, largely due to Clinton's missteps. Since then he's presided over, now, three election cycles in which the Republican Party has received a thumping. It's more than clear that DeSantis is the path forward for 2024 and Trump is the path of electoral disaster. All over social media today a lot of conservative pundits are finally admitting this. A lot of money and support will undoubtedly shift from Trump to DeSantis in the coming months and the party apparatus will do everything they can to stop Trump in his tracks. The question is how many of the Trump faithful will manage to break themselves out of his hypnotic spell.

Don't expect Trump to go gracefully, though. This is and has always been about his ego. He's going to kick and scream and cry and do everything he can to sabotage the party if he doesn't get his way. The next two years are going to be very bumpy in the GOP.

You would sacrifice the good of our country because your ego is as large, if not larger than President Trump’s? How stupid can you be? It never ceases to amaze me how desperate you are for attention on this message board.

Our politicians are as corrupt as corrupt can be, yet you sit here and try to ridicule the only person who has taken their corruption head on, next you will start telling yourself and anyone dumb enough to listen to you, that he’s bad, Orangeman bad, real bad and your opinion is right.

When you crawl back down from your self appointed perch, you might take a look in your mirror and see just how disconnected you really are…
 

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DeSantis will wait. He's 44 now. He'll be like 49 or 50 in the 2028 election season.

DeSantis lets Trump destroy the Republican party in 2024. No skin off his back.

Then he swoops in as the Great White Republican savior. After all, he knows he can count on 90% of the media writhing in orgasmic glee as they sing his praises, same as they did for Trump in 2016.
Do we really want to risk Democrat destruction for a second Presidential cycle? I sure as hell don't. Clueless Joe has already done a bang up job banging up the country. If he were to keel over from a cerebral aneurysm today? I would cheer.
 

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Do we really want to risk Democrat destruction for a second Presidential cycle? I sure as hell don't. Clueless Joe has already done a bang up job banging up the country. If he were to keel over from a cerebral aneurysm today? I would cheer.
And his funeral, would have everyone 6 ft apart and wearing masks......He is a pathetic shitter in chief.
 
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You would sacrifice the good of our country because your ego is as large, if not larger than President Trump’s?

You have it backwards. YOU sacrificed the good of the country.
 

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Step past the hype, political talking points. Go look at how your Republican leaders voted on the bills, that supported vets, or aim was to help the working middle class.
 

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Do we really want to risk Democrat destruction for a second Presidential cycle?
You're not making sense, as Democrats are doing great things across the board.

But whatever, let's go with the idiot communist propaganda that you've fallen for. Why should DeSantis care? He's a selfish fascist sociopath. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. Why should he get into a mudslinging fight with Trump now, when he can just wait and become the default 2028 candidate? He'll make just as much money from graft and corruption that way.

If he were to keel over from a cerebral aneurysm today? I would cheer.
Not all Republicans are vicious immoral sociopaths, but so many of them are. And people notice, and it sends a lot of votes to the Democrats. No moral person wants to be associated with garbage humans like this guy.
 

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You're not making sense, as Democrats are doing great things across the board.

But whatever, let's go with the idiot communist propaganda that you've fallen for. Why should DeSantis care? He's a selfish fascist sociopath. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. Why should he get into a mudslinging fight with Trump now, when he can just wait and become the default 2028 candidate? He'll make just as much money from graft and corruption that way.


Not all Republicans are vicious immoral sociopaths, but so many of them are. And people notice, and it sends a lot of votes to the Democrats. No moral person wants to be associated with garbage humans like this guy.
Unlike you and the rest of the Liberetards, DeSantis and Trump are both REAL Americans.
 

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