Trump wants to modify the 14th Amendment

[Rawley]

Would it be silly to ask you for a citation?

I guess it was silly to ask.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Good luck with that. Someone tell the moron that an executive order ain't gonna get it. He needs a Constitutional amendment, and he ain't gonna get that either!

Maybe he should go talk to the anti-gun loons and ask them for their advice on how to legally ignore the constitution.

 

[Hellokitty]

Opinion | One of Trump’s most vulnerable Day One targets: newborn Americans

The president-elect's day one plans include an executive order to narrow the scope of birthright citizenship, rewriting the 14th Amendment.

www.msnbc.com

Good luck with that. Someone tell the moron that an executive order ain't gonna get it. He needs a Constitutional amendment, and he ain't gonna get that either!

Bigly!!!

You might have a point but since TRUMP is gonna be a Dictator you don't.

 

[bendog]

Would it be silly to ask you for a citation?

That's actually in Phyler, but the SC case saying Trump cannot do this without amending the const or getting the SC to throw out 150 years of precedent .... wong kim ark. And you can googel that yourself.

 

[Rawley]

That's actually in Phyler, but the SC case saying Trump cannot do this without amending the const or getting the SC to throw out 150 years of precedent .... wong kim ark. And you can googel that yourself.

The court in wong kim ark did not say a Constitutional Amendment was necessary. They interpreted the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction" in one way. Why can't the current SC interpret it differently?

 

[lafayette]

It's been given. And you should read the 14th and commentary on it.

 

[bendog]

The court in wong kim ark did not say a Constitutional Amendment was necessary. They interpreted the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction" in one way. Why can't the current SC interpret it differently?

Well, they could. But generally, you just don't get do overs. Roe fell because the SC overturned the rational for a fundamental right. In wong kim ark, the SC had to give effect to the 14th being created to prevent another class of stateless workers. WE had jim crow and sharecropping nonetheless.

What congress MIGHT try is creating a law that does not allow US corporations to just import workers whose children born here are never citizens.

 

[1srelluc]

Opinion | One of Trump’s most vulnerable Day One targets: newborn Americans

The president-elect's day one plans include an executive order to narrow the scope of birthright citizenship, rewriting the 14th Amendment.

www.msnbc.com

Good luck with that. Someone tell the moron that an executive order ain't gonna get it. He needs a Constitutional amendment, and he ain't gonna get that either!

Bigly!!!

Darth Trump!

 

[BackAgain]

Opinion | One of Trump’s most vulnerable Day One targets: newborn Americans

The president-elect's day one plans include an executive order to narrow the scope of birthright citizenship, rewriting the 14th Amendment.

www.msnbc.com

Good luck with that. Someone tell the moron that an executive order ain't gonna get it. He needs a Constitutional amendment, and he ain't gonna get that either!

Bigly!!!

You’re still an asshole.

 

[Mac-7]

If we just control the border, it will largely be a moot point anyway.

Meaning build the wall, deploy the military and institute same day arrival deportation?

 

[sparky]

We're being invaded

tweaking the 14th is a benign compared to how we should respond

~S~

 

[Rawley]

Well, they could. But generally, you just don't get do overs. Roe fell because the SC overturned the rational for a fundamental right. In wong kim ark, the SC had to give effect to the 14th being created to prevent another class of stateless workers. WE had jim crow and sharecropping nonetheless.

What congress MIGHT try is creating a law that does not allow US corporations to just import workers whose children born here are never citizens.

Don't see how that really helps.

All Trump has to do is tell the Social Security Administration to not issue SS numbers to children unless at least one of the parents show they are in the country legally.

 

[sparky]

Sanctuary needs to end

I'm tired of seeing every countries misfits, crooks ,and refuse wash up here on my tax $$$ , then having moonbat libs cry about the kids

yes it's a humanitarian crisis , but it's one prog policies created that backfired

make it stop!

~S~

 

[bendog]

Don't see how that really helps.

All Trump has to do is tell the Social Security Administration to not issue SS numbers to children unless at least one of the parents show they are in the country legally.

That's not legal under the 14th and wong. Not that Trump might not try it for a diversion.

For over 150 years, and under the ONLY SC interpretation of the 14th, that is supported by historical papers of the framers of the 14th, a kid born here is a citizen.

 

[marvin martian]

Opinion | One of Trump’s most vulnerable Day One targets: newborn Americans

The president-elect's day one plans include an executive order to narrow the scope of birthright citizenship, rewriting the 14th Amendment.

www.msnbc.com

Good luck with that. Someone tell the moron that an executive order ain't gonna get it. He needs a Constitutional amendment, and he ain't gonna get that either!

Bigly!!!

Not rewrite. He wants to actually follow what it says.

You're too dumb to understand the difference, and MSNBC knows it.

 

[bendog]

my guess is he'll try to rewrite wong, and deport kids who are citizens ... and dare the courts to stop him ... which they did in his first term

 

[M14 Shooter]

my guess is he'll try to rewrite wong, and deport kids who are citizens

He'll deport the non-citizen parent(s) and give them the option to take the kids with them,

 

[Unkotare]

Meaning build the wall, deploy the military and institute same day arrival deportation?

Whatever it takes, within reason.

 

[Mac-7]

Whatever it takes, within reason.

Sure

No land mines or shoot on sight policy

 

[bendog]

He'll deport the non-citizen parent(s) and give them the option to take the kids with them,

That he legally can do. But we're stuck with the parentless kids.

Personally, I'd go more for only accepting single guest workers for a set time, after which they are not here legally. And they don't get healthcare beyond the medical care for work injury. Guest workers would have to be housed in single sex dorms. They don't get to go to bars. Guest workers would have to swear that they do NOT seek to submit to US laws, and they always remain citizens of their native country.

And I'd have our amnesty laws rewritten .... while Trump still has both houses of congress.

What I cannot see is anyway to end birthright citzenship without amending the 14th. And I'm all for that.

And I'd look for places like Tiawan where democracy is the norm to look for addidtional citizens.