Trump wants $230,000,000.00 from the US taxpayer.

[Marener]

Those reasons being he was senile

Quote the part of the report where Hur said he was senile.

 

[postman]

"Oopsie how did these classified documents get in my garage and at the Penn biden center".

Remember, Biden didn't pack up his own documents.
Unlike the Trump documents from the White House residence, Biden has his staff do most of the packing.

 

[postman]

Quote the part of the report where Hur said he was senile.

He can't even quote the part of the report about Biden disclosing "documents".

 

[struth]

This is where the legal requirements of proof come in.
The Clinton documents contained markings like (S) or (C) to indicate
they contained classified information. But classified documents have headers and footers that clearly say "CLASSIFIED". Meaning that you can tell a classified documents by just taking even a quick glance at it.
Classified information has to be read by someone with the knowledge of the type of information, or specifics of the information to make that determination.

To put it simply, a grade school child can tell if something is a classified document, where the same isn't true for classified information.

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.

www.fbi.gov

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.
....
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

 

[postman]

Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retainedand disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a privatecitizen. These materials included (1) marked classified documents about military andforeign policy in Afghanistan, and (2) notebooks containing Mr. Biden's handwrittenentries about issues of national security and foreign policy implicating sensitiveintelligence sources and methods. FBI agents recovered these materials from thegarage, offices, and basement den in Mr. Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home.
Prosecution of Mr.Biden is also unwarranted based on our consideration of the aggravating andmitigating factors set forth in the Department of Justice's Principles of FederalProsecution. For these reasons, we decline prosecution of Mr. Biden.

About those classified documents. Hur further explained what they were

From Hur report (PDF) page 200

The folders of classified Afghanistan documents appear to be files of Mr. Biden's creation, labeled in his handwriting, and containing memos and intelligence products he removed from the ordinary flow of paper he received as vice president

Those "classified" documents, were contemporaneous notes. containing classified information.

Not the classified documents themselves.

Not actual

 

[struth]

Quote the part of the report where Hur said he was senile.

In addition. Mr. Biden's memory was significantly limited, both during hisrecorded interviews with the ghostwriter in 2017, and in his interview with our officein 2023
Given Mr. Biden's limited precision and recall during his interviews with hisghostwriter and with our office, jurors may hesitate to place too much evidentiaryweight on a single eight-word utterance to his ghostwriter about finding classified documents in Virginia, in the absence of other, more direct evidence


A very polite way of saying, he's senile.

 

[Marener]

About those classified documents. Hur further explained what they were

From Hur report (PDF) page 200

The folders of classified Afghanistan documents appear to be files of Mr. Biden's creation, labeled in his handwriting, and containing memos and intelligence products he removed from the ordinary flow of paper he received as vice president

Those "classified" documents, were contemporaneous notes. containing classified information.

Not the classified documents themselves.

Not actual

I think the documents in this folder were classified documents. He definitely took notes on them, but the documents go beyond the notes.

A separate issue under the same umbrella is his notebooks, which are definitely in a gray area. DoJ screwed up back in Reagan when they decided that he could keep notebooks with classified information and Biden followed suit.

 

[struth]

About those classified documents. Hur further explained what they were

From Hur report (PDF) page 200

The folders of classified Afghanistan documents appear to be files of Mr. Biden's creation, labeled in his handwriting, and containing memos and intelligence products he removed from the ordinary flow of paper he received as vice president

Those "classified" documents, were contemporaneous notes. containing classified information.

Not the classified documents themselves.

Not actual

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

Evidence supports the inference that when Mr. Eiden said in 2017 that he had"just found all the classified stuff downstairs" in Virginia, he was referring to thesame marked classified documents about Afghanistan that FBI agents found in 2022in his Delaware garage


NO, he had an acknowledged he had the actual classified documents.

Why do you all continue to lie?

 

[Marener]

In addition. Mr. Biden's memory was significantly limited, both during hisrecorded interviews with the ghostwriter in 2017, and in his interview with our officein 2023
Given Mr. Biden's limited precision and recall during his interviews with hisghostwriter and with our office, jurors may hesitate to place too much evidentiaryweight on a single eight-word utterance to his ghostwriter about finding classified documents in Virginia, in the absence of other, more direct evidence


A very polite way of saying, he's senile.

So you lied about being senile.

Remember that you said Hur didn't talk about Biden's defense as being forgetful? That was also a lie.

That’s not what he said. He said Xiden willfully retained and disclosed classified documents

He didn’t say a thing about the jury believing xiden’s lie he “forgot” anything

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

Several defenses are likely to create reasonable doubt as to such charges. For example, Mr. Biden could have found the classified Afghanistan documents at his Virginia home in 2017 and then forgotten about them soon after. This could convince some reasonable jurors that he did not retain them willfully.

I told you that you didn't read the report.

 

[postman]

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.

www.fbi.gov

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.
....
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

So most of the classified e-mails were sent to the Clinton e-mail accounts. Where she had little or no control of who sends that information.
So much for having any "intent" to retain classified materials, she didn't even know was there.

As you quoted 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. [/b]

The e-mails were not marked "classified", so a casual inspection of them would have raised a red flag. But instead required the careful study of the contents, and knowledge of the information.

 

[struth]

So you lied about being senile.

Remember that you said Hur didn't talk about Biden's defense as being forgetful? That was also a lie.



Several defenses are likely to create reasonable doubt as to such charges. For example, Mr. Biden could have found the classified Afghanistan documents at his Virginia home in 2017 and then forgotten about them soon after. This could convince some reasonable jurors that he did not retain them willfully.

I told you that you didn't read the report.

No, I just showed you where he said he was senile. His defense was he was senile. Yes, being senile certainly could be a reason a juror might given him a break on willfully retaining claissifed documents.

 

[struth]

So most of the classified e-mails were sent to the Clinton e-mail accounts. Where she had little or no control of who sends that information.
So much for having any "intent" to retain classified materials, she didn't even know was there.

As you quoted 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. [/b]

The e-mails were not marked "classified", so a casual inspection of them would have raised a red flag. But instead required the careful study of the contents, and knowledge of the information.

She had little to no control over her illegal email server? hahahahh


we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

 

[Marener]

No, I just showed you where he said he was senile. His defense was he was senile. Yes, being senile certainly could be a reason a juror might given him a break on willfully retaining claissifed documents.

But he never said "senile". Did he?

 

[Slade3200]

I am not commenting on the entire legal system

Sure sounds like you are

 

[postman]

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

Evidence supports the inference that when Mr. Eiden said in 2017 that he had"just found all the classified stuff downstairs" in Virginia, he was referring to thesame marked classified documents about Afghanistan that FBI agents found in 2022in his Delaware garage


NO, he had an acknowledged he had the actual classified documents.

Why do you all continue to lie?

Support an inference?

So no actual PROOF.


Inference - An inference is an educated guess.

 

[Mac-7]

Sure sounds like you are

I could

Because our legal system leaves much to be desired thsnks in part to bad judges

 

[Marener]

I could

Because our legal system leaves much to be desired thsnks in part to bad judges

You mean like judges who say the president is above the law?

 

[postman]

Quote the part of the report where Hur said he was senile.

He can't

 

[Mac-7]

You mean like judges who say the president is above the law?

I mean judges who say judges are above the law

Such as this piece of dirt:

'Misdemeanor' Marconi Headed Back to State's Highest Bench After Plea Deal - NH Journal

New Hampshire - 'Misdemeanor' Marconi Headed Back to State's Highest Bench After Plea Deal - NH Journal - Politics

nhjournal.com

 

[Marener]

I mean judges who say judges are above the law

Such as this piece of dirt:

'Misdemeanor' Marconi Headed Back to State's Highest Bench After Plea Deal - NH Journal

New Hampshire - 'Misdemeanor' Marconi Headed Back to State's Highest Bench After Plea Deal - NH Journal - Politics

nhjournal.com

Man, her case reminds me of the old days when we actually cared about corruption. This is the Trump era baby. The bar is so much lower.