Trump to send Hospital Ship to Greenland

[braalian]

You have to be a Danish citizen to vote in a Greenland election.


Posted twice this thread already:

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Healthcare crisis looms over Greenland's isolated villages

The Greenlandic settlement of Kapisillit has no defibrillator -- which, given it is only accessible via a two-hour boat ride or by helicopter, means that if you go into cardiac

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All geographically isolated, low population areas have healthcare challenges related to it being almost impossible to attract healthcare professionals

I know for a fact that northern Michigan has a very hard time finding nurses to staff their small hospitals and clinics. Is Trump going to send a hospital ship to “rescue” them?

There aren’t Greenlanders dying en masse in waiting rooms or anything dramatic like that. They face the same challenges that remote areas in developed nations face even with a world class healthcare system.

It’s no different in any way than the experiences of people living in northern Alaska, Canada’s northern territories or the Australian outback. It’s part of the reality of living in these places.

Greenland doesn’t need a “hospital ship” from the USA anymore than Canada or Australia does.

Send the ship to a third world country that actually needs it. This is just stupid political showmanship and we all know it

 

[Rambunctious]

There’s 50k people on Greenland and they already have a hospital. Do you think they need another 1000 hospital beds?

Normal rate for hospital beds is 2-5 per 1000.

You seem to think it should be 20 per 1000.

Its a colossal waste of money.

I posted a link that says they do need it so you find one that says they do not...

Greenland is currently experiencing a significant backlog in its healthcare system, with estimated needs of about one billion kroner ($158 million) for improvements. While officials maintain that a full crisis does not exist and have rejected foreign aid, the system requires long-term capacity building and improved local services.
Greenland faces a significant shortage of healthcare staff, particularly in remote villages, creating a "significant backlog" in its health system. While the country has a universal, publicly funded system, it suffers from a, High North Newsdoctor-to-patient ratio three times lower than Denmark, resulting in high workloads, reliance on locum (temporary) doctors, and, National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)

 

[Rambunctious]

What makes you think they need the ship?

Just because Trump says so?

Can’t think for yourself?

I posted a link that says they do need the ship...
Greenland is currently experiencing a significant backlog in its healthcare system, with estimated needs of about one billion kroner ($158 million) for improvements. While officials maintain that a full crisis does not exist and have rejected foreign aid, the system requires long-term capacity building and improved local services.
Greenland faces a significant shortage of healthcare staff, particularly in remote villages, creating a "significant backlog" in its health system. While the country has a universal, publicly funded system, it suffers from a, High North Newsdoctor-to-patient ratio three times lower than Denmark, resulting in high workloads, reliance on locum (temporary) doctors, and, National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)

 

[Rambunctious]

Because Greenland says so

Greenland is currently experiencing a significant backlog in its healthcare system, with estimated needs of about one billion kroner ($158 million) for improvements. While officials maintain that a full crisis does not exist and have rejected foreign aid, the system requires long-term capacity building and improved local services.Greenland faces a significant shortage of healthcare staff, particularly in remote villages, creating a "significant backlog" in its health system. While the country has a universal, publicly funded system, it suffers from a, High North Newsdoctor-to-patient ratio three times lower than Denmark, resulting in high workloads, reliance on locum (temporary) doctors, and, National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)

 

[Rambunctious]

I love making libs look pathetic^^^^^^^

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don’t see anywhere that it says people are dying on waitlists.

Are you really that childish that everything must be spelled out for you?

Of course, people die on medical wait lists.What makes you think they don't?

But if you insist that I "prove" that water is wet, I will be happy to post the proof when I am back on my PC

Waitlists are just that. Meant for conditions that can wait.
Those with critical emergencies are evacuated to Denmark for care

Imagine the outrage by Danes in Denmark if they had to be evacuated to Greenland to get medical care. But for the native people, it's good enough for them.

Donald trump does not agree and the hospital ship will be far closer than Denmark.

It is hard to believe that anyone would be so petty as to be angry about that.

 

[Marener]

I posted a link that says they do need it so you find one that says they do not...

Your own link says that the officials of Greenland denies they need a hospital ship.

Your link says they need permanent staff to fill positions in numerous remote areas. That’s basically the opposite of a what a hospital ship can do.

 

[rightwinger]

Are you really that childish that everything must be spelled out for you?

Of course, people die on medical wait lists.What makes you think they don't?

But if you insist that I "prove" that water is wet, I will be happy to post the proof when I am back on my PC

Imagine the outrage by Danes in Denmark if they had to be evacuated to Greenland to get medical care. But for the native people, it's good enough for them.

Donald trump does not agree and the hospital ship will be far closer than Denmark.

It is hard to believe that anyone would be so petty as to be angry about that.

No matter what Trump does, people in remote areas of Greenland will have difficulty being evacuated. Even with a hospital ship hundreds of miles away.

How is the medical care for people in remote regions of Alaska?

 

[Seymour Flops]

One thing we know for sure:

If a President Harris or a President Ocasio-Cortez were ever to send a hospital ship to El Salvador to provide "gender affirming" care to children, the Dems and "not Dems" on here would fall all over themselves to praise the "humanitarian" mission.

 

[rightwinger]

One thing we know for sure:

If a President Harris or a President Ocasio-Cortez were ever to send a hospital ship to El Salvador to provide "gender affirming" care to children, the Dems and "not Dems" on here would fall all over themselves to praise the "humanitarian" mission.

Stupid comparison

 

[braalian]

Greenland is currently experiencing a significant backlog in its healthcare system, with estimated needs of about one billion kroner ($158 million) for improvements. While officials maintain that a full crisis does not exist and have rejected foreign aid, the system requires long-term capacity building and improved local services.Greenland faces a significant shortage of healthcare staff, particularly in remote villages, creating a "significant backlog" in its health system. While the country has a universal, publicly funded system, it suffers from a, High North Newsdoctor-to-patient ratio three times lower than Denmark, resulting in high workloads, reliance on locum (temporary) doctors, and, National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)

Again, Greenland doesn’t need foreign healthcare aid anymore than any remote parts of any other developed nation does, including many remote areas in the USA

All your links tell us is what we already know…. remote areas in developed nations face healthcare challenges related to staff shortages and a relative lack of infrastructure. It’s not “news” in any shape or form

By your logic, Sweden should send emergency medical relief to northern Alaska or the Australian outback

Send the ships to third world countries that need it

 

[Rambunctious]

Again, Greenland doesn’t need foreign healthcare aid anymore than any remote parts of any other developed nation does, including many remote areas in the USA

All your links tell us is what we already know…. remote areas in developed nations face healthcare challenges related to staff shortages and a relative lack of infrastructure. It’s not “news” in any shape or form

By your logic, Sweden should send emergency medical relief to northern Alaska or the Australian outback

Send the ships to third world countries that need it

Did you read what I posted?... access to a doctor and especially a surgeon has been an issue in Greenland for decades.... some patients have died trying to get to Denmark for treatment...
why not try posting proof of the nonsense you spew....

 

[braalian]

Imagine the outrage by Danes in Denmark if they had to be evacuated to Greenland to get medical care. But for the native people, it's good enough for them.

People in super isolated parts of the world like Greenland ALWAYS have to be evacuated for advanced/complicated medical care

It’s a fundamental reality of living in places like that no matter how well developed the country is. Framing it as a failure of the Danish government is absurd and you know it

People from remote rural areas in the USA are routinely med-evacuated long distances to receive complex medical care, and Greenland is far more isolated and more sparsely populated than anywhere here

It’s an almost continental sized island with a population smaller than Kalamazoo, Michigan. Do you really expect them to have a world class trauma hospital full of medical specialists 24/7?

 

[braalian]

Did you read what I posted?... access to a doctor and especially a surgeon has been an issue in Greenland for decades.... some patients have died trying to get to Denmark for treatment...
why not try posting proof of the nonsense you spew....

Yeah, no crap

I’m pretty sure Americans in northern Alaska have a hard time finding a surgeon unless they fly to anchorage or something

What’s your point

 

[Seymour Flops]

No matter what Trump does, people in remote areas of Greenland will have difficulty being evacuated. Even with a hospital ship hundreds of miles away.

How is the medical care for people in remote regions of Alaska?

Pretty damn good, actually. It is expensive just like everything else is in Alaska.

Of course, the major hospitals are in anchorage, which means that the
Native alaskans often must travel there. because our medical care is not socialized.There are several for profit air ambulance services that they can use for that. Insurance covers it and so does medicaid.

Next time you think you have a slam dunk question.Maybe a little research?

In rural Greenland many villages do not even have defibrillators. Freaking defibrillators. i work in a high school campus (9th grade only) that serves about seven hundred students. The building has three defibrillators.

All that trump is really offering is air evacuation services to a major hospital that happens to be floating.

But you say that is a bad thing?

 

[braalian]

Pretty damn good, actually. It is expensive just like everything else is in Alaska.

Of course, the major hospitals are in anchorage, which means that the
Native alaskans often must travel there. because our medical care is not socialized.There are several for profit air ambulance services that they can use for that. Insurance covers it and so does medicaid.

Next time you think you have a slam dunk question.Maybe a little research?

In rural Greenland many villages do not even have defibrillators. Freaking defibrillators. i work in a high school campus (9th grade only) that serves about seven hundred students. The building has three defibrillators.

All that trump is really offering is air evacuation services to a major hospital that happens to be floating.

But you say that is a bad thing?

Again, by your logic, why doesn’t Sweden or something send a rescue hospital ship off the coast of Alaska to save all the Americans there who have to fly to anchorage for advanced care?

It’s an inevitable reality of living in these places that you may have to travel long distances for advanced care

Period

Greenland doesn’t “need” foreign military hospital ships any more than Alaska or the Northwest Territories in Canada do…..

Just admit it’s all political

 

[Seymour Flops]

Stupid comparison

You don't deny it!

 

[Rambunctious]

Yeah, no crap

I’m pretty sure Americans in northern Alaska have a hard time finding a surgeon unless they fly to anchorage or something

What’s your point

My point is there is a need for a hospital ship dummy.... maybe this will push Denmark to provide one... and I've been to Alaska.... everyone has a plane and can fly to any city in the state...

 

[rightwinger]

Why wouldn’t Greenland accept a free hospital ship courtesy of TRUMP?
What do they have to lose?

Because they realize everything with Trump is transactional. He does not do things out of the goodness of his heart.

It is like accepting a favor from a Mafia Don. There are always strings attached.

 

[braalian]

My point is there is a need for a hospital ship dummy.... maybe this will push Denmark to provide one... and I've been to Alaska.... everyone has a plane and can fly to any city in the state...

“Everyone has a plane”?

Do you hear yourself when you speak?