Trump to Legalize Pot?

[RoshawnMarkwees]

REEFER MADNESS!!!!! 1936 film.

Reefer Madness 2 from 1970 is what we’re dealing with now. Pot advocates who are utterly clueless and kept that way.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Tobacco accounts for more deaths every year in the USA than alcohol and illegal drugs put together. Yet I can buy a pack of smokes almost anywhere in the USA. I was told as a teenager that possessing one seed from a marijuana plant was a felony. By a cop smoking a cigarette.

You’re spewing more pot propaganda.
Pot increases heart disease risk by 50% and one joint/bowl is like seven cigarettes. It’s not health smoke.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

On another note...pot can be grown to produce other chemical compounds other than straight THC. CBD is one example that has immense potential for it's healing properties. IMHO this a long overdue development, directly because of the insane laws that make it a class 1 drug along with heroine.

CBD has no healing or medicinal properties. More pot propaganda. Two studies, one conducted by Oxford university, demonstrated that placebo kept pace and outpaced CBD.

 

[Puma Punku]

I find it offensive to be accused of "spewing more pot propaganda." I am only typing my honest opinions formed from my knowledge. Inhaling any burnt plant material is obviously not healthy. The 7 cigarette thing is an outdated "talking point" IMHO. Smoking a "joint" entails several inhalations, where has today some pot smokers stop after 2 or 3 "hits", which is undoubtably harmful, but far less harmful than two packs a day of Marlboros.

 

[Puma Punku]

Furthermore.. to say "CBD has no healing or medicinal properties" is an outright lie. This I know for a fact, and I will stand by my words, regardless of any university studies. They sell massive quantities of various forms of CBD to thousands of Americans, that find it beneficial. If it was simply a placebo, the huge industry surrounding CBD would not have existed and blossomed the way that it has. Many people pay a lot of money for CBD..not to get high, but to reduce pain, cure insomnia and to treat a plethora of other ailments.

 

[Puma Punku]

Vape pens that contain elements from the marijuana plant are also worth discussing. They come in the form of a battery powered device the size of a stick of gum. The user puffs on one end to inhale the "vapor" that contains no burnt plant matter, has very little oder, and can be tailored to the desired percentage of THC vs CBD. This is very effective in harm reduction. Long gone are the days of people smoking rag weed smuggled on the backs of drug mules hired by the cartels.

 

[Puma Punku]

The American experience with pot has a long and interesting history, involving hemp farms, Jazz musicians, Abbey Hoffman, PARAQUAT etc...Putting that aside..... and looking at the WORLD history of pot, adds immense insight. For thousands of years societies have dealt with the "problem" of very potent forms of Cannabis. Years ago I watched an "interview" with a "Freedom Fighter" (our friends) in Afghanistan. He was heavily smoking hash, getting ready to ambush a Russian truck...... and clearly stated that the hash made him much better at killing Russians. I found this fascinating. A terrifying, life threatening, horrific task at hand...smoke some hash....and off you go.

 

[Puma Punku]

Thailand at one time was known to U.S. hippies for its "Thaisticks". Small single family farms had been perfecting Sativa cultivation for thousands of years. They would meticulously tie the dried flowers onto sticks about 6 inches long. Extremely potent pot. The farmers were just that,, farmers. But greedy men saw a market for Thaisticks in America. After a few years the ancient family farms were replaced by huge fields of the most profitable strains of Sativa. The meticulously tied sticks were abandoned and it was now called Thai Weed...sold in plastic bags. Thousands of ancient strains of Sativa were lost forever.

 

[Puma Punku]

A few years back a couple of brothers from Europe made a fortune selling pot seeds. They were searching for the benefits of pot. They heard of a strain of Cannabis in a remote area of Africa. It was said to be cultivated to be beneficial for people experiencing hunger. The exact opposite of what dopers call the munchies. They thought..."could this plant help suppress apatite and help with our obesity problem?" These two brave, young millionaires went to Africa, faced machete yielding natives growing pot and ended up dying from malaria for their noble efforts.
Cannabis is a complex subject.

 

[toobfreak]

I've had these conversations with pot heads. Nothing you say can convince them that pot can be bad for you in any way.

Any intoxicant has deleterious effects. A person's response to and tolerance for marijuana varies greatly from person to person, and while THC offers some good qualities and effects for some people, too many people not particularly suited to it smoke the stuff morning, noon and night 7 days a week.

Even overeating gourmet food is eventually bad for you.

 

[Puma Punku]

My last three post were intended to illustrate how the conversation about "pot" is worthy of complex contemplation.

 

[candycorn]

Try to keep up and you won`t be making an ass of yourself saying stupid things.

Little hope of that.

 

[Jarlaxle]

So you have been self-lobotomizing for decades. I bet your mother would have been so proud.

Yeah, all pot smokers are stupid. That's why legendary toker Cheech Marin WON the first celebrity Jeopardy.

Pot causes mental illness. One dose. Pot causes cannabis hypermesis. Painful puking to the point of dehydration and renal failure. People who smoke and vape in public put others at risk. Creepy stupidity rooted in ignorance.
Pot is a dangerous drug even in small amounts. Problem is the industry controls the messaging the same way democrats do. People are being dangerously misled.

Bullshit. Pot has permanent life-altering consequences. Maybe not for everyone but certainly for anyone and for many already.
Comparing to alcohol or anything else is irrelevant. None of these things justify any other.
But alcohol in mild doses is mostly harmless. Pot works problems with one dose. Like a dimmer switch vs an on/off switch.
And people don’t randomly force their alcohol onto others in public with impunity the way pot smoking idiots and THC vapers do.
Pot is a dangerous drug and public awareness is way overdue.

OK, repeat after me: Reefer Madness is NOT a documentary!

Then they had other issues. If you lose yourself to pot, its your fault. Pot isnt crack or heroine.

Or the pot was dosed with something. (I have seen reports of pot that was dosed with PCP, meth, and hallucinogenic mushrooms.)

 

[initforme]

Yeah, all pot smokers are stupid. That's why legendary toker Cheech Marin WON the first celebrity Jeopardy.





OK, repeat after me: Reefer Madness is NOT a documentary!



Or the pot was dosed with something. (I have seen reports of pot that was dosed with PCP, meth, and hallucinogenic mushrooms.)

Hilarious

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I find it offensive to be accused of "spewing more pot propaganda." I am only typing my honest opinions formed from my knowledge. Inhaling any burnt plant material is obviously not healthy. The 7 cigarette thing is an outdated "talking point" IMHO. Smoking a "joint" entails several inhalations, where has today some pot smokers stop after 2 or 3 "hits", which is undoubtably harmful, but far less harmful than two packs a day of Marlboros.

Seven cigarettes doesn’t make two packs. Holding in smoke is way more dangerous than passively inhaling. Pretending that pot smoking is innocent smoking is outdated rationalization from 1970 reefer madness.
Pot is a dangerous drug that should be considered as such for people’s safety. Pot advocates are the most grossly misinformed group-thinkers ever.

 

[TNHarley]

Brain cells don't regenerate.

Its called neurogenesis

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Its called neurogenesis

Which does nothing to prevent hypermesis, derealization disorder, psychosis, psychotic episodes, suicidal ideation, clinical depression, etc., all of which can be a consequence to any pot user. Then pot smokers and vapers subject others to that threat.
Creepy.

 

[SweetTea]

Its called neurogenesis

Yes, and it is very limited in adults.

Pot causes several neurological issues, especially when started in adolescence.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Yes, and it is very limited in adults.

Pot causes several neurological issues, especially when started in adolescence.

ER visits galore, especially in recent years, and it’s kept in the dark.

 

[skye]