Trump targets homeless problem

[Foxfyre]

JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY your going to do something that sound good, Means little.
lets see a FULL FORMED PLAN.
THEN WE CAN DECUSS THE MERITS.

Goal A - get the illegals out of subsidized housing so there is room for millions more citizens who need that housing to get off the street.

Goal A - Get the rest of the homeless off the street by providing competent institutions for those homeless who are unable to competently care for themselves due to mental problems or addictions.

If you oppose the Goal A, the details are pretty meaningless yes?

 

[Meathead]

I'm not so sure what to think of this. First of all, they state that most of these people have serious mental and drug issues, so how are you going to get them "back into society?" Mental people need healthcare and public mental care is virtually nonexistent. That is the first problem. What little there is, sucks. That is the next problem. The third problem is that this country is rushing pell mell towards eliminating the very jobs these kind of people might actually do, replacing them with machines.

The forth problem is that probably the reason why most of these people are on drugs and out on the street is /because/ of the government.

• The government shipped all job labor out of the country to foreign lands, so there is no work for them.
• The government imports millions of illegals to do menial labor.
• There simply is no work nor opportunity for most of these people to meet the high cost of living in these cities so they end up on the street taking drugs.

As usual, it sounds like the government is again operating bass ackwards--- looking at the symptom instead of the cause, to get these people off the street and into drug programs; wonder what that will cost us before it all fails, a few billion? Give these people opportunity, create jobs for them and you won't need to get them off the streets or off drugs.

Getting rid of all illegals would solve both the housing and employment problems. It's definitely a win-win.

Having said that, there would be a substantial amount that would need long-term or permanent free housing. The benefits in sanitation and public safety would far outweigh the cost.

 

[Meathead]

Plan A - get the illegals out of subsidized housing so there is room for millions more citizens who needs that housing to get off the street.

Plan B - Get the rest of the homeless off the street to provide competent institutions for those homeless who are unable to competently care for themselves due to mental problems or addictions.

If you oppose Plan A and Plan B, the details are pretty meaningless yes?

Damn, just beat me to it!

 

[BrokeLoser]

Hand them a free fishing pole, a tent and a bus ride to a resource rich forest of their choice....It would be like the old days when adults had to fend for themselves...before suckers would drop free shit in the laps of begging degenerate bottom feeders.

 

[toobfreak]

Getting rid of all illegals would solve both the housing and employment problems. It's definitely a win-win.

Might be. It is worth a shot. Problem is, if that ever happens, we are years away from getting it all done.

Having said that, there would be a substantial amount that would need long-term or permanent free housing. The benefits in sanitation and public safety would far outweigh the cost.

Perhaps. Again, far easier and cheaper to keep people on the straight and narrow with adequate jobs, opportunity, affordable living, etc., than to drive them into poverty, drugs, homelessness through bad governmental mismanagement, then to try to put their lives all back together.

But at least Trump is trying something.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

How about giving them temporary shelter with the stipulation that they get employed?

Mentally ill and drug addicts don't get jobs dumb ass.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Might be. It is worth a shot. Problem is, if that ever happens, we are years away from getting it all done.

That’s true…Going about it the way we are is a bit of a dog and pony show…It will take decades and there’s no way the next POTUS will have half the nutsack Trump has when dealing with it.
That’s why I’ve always been a big proponent of martial law…I’d be fine with a lengthy period of total chaos and unrest if it meant actually solving the issue and eradicating ALL illegals.

 

[toobfreak]

It will take decades and there’s no way the next POTUS will have half the nutsack Trump has when dealing with it.

Certainly not if it is a democrat, but here's hoping that Trump is /very/ successful in this term and goes out riding high making it easier for Vance to get elected to the office--- I would hope that Vance essentially mirrors most/all of the same Trump policies.

But I don't trust Vance 100% yet. A small part of my brain still fears he is just a wolf in sheep's clothing. He was a dire Trump opponent at one time--- has he truly seen the light and turned a new leaf? Or has he simply deceived Trump and the voters into thinking he is full MAGA just so that he could try to ride Trump's coattails into office?

 

[Meathead]

Certainly not if it is a democrat, but here's hoping that Trump is /very/ successful in this term and goes out riding high making it easier for Vance to get elected to the office--- I would hope that Vance essentially mirrors most/all of the same Trump policies.

But I don't trust Vance 100% yet. A small part of my brain still fears he is just a wolf in sheep's clothing. He was a dire Trump opponent at one time--- has he truly seen the light and turned a new leaf? Or has he simply deceived Trump and the voters into thinking he is full MAGA just so that he could try to ride Trump's coattails into office?

There'll never be another Donlad J Trump, but his effect on the country will benefit America for decades. Vance is not a bad succeeder.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Certainly not if it is a democrat, but here's hoping that Trump is /very/ successful in this term and goes out riding high making it easier for Vance to get elected to the office--- I would hope that Vance essentially mirrors most/all of the same Trump policies.

But I don't trust Vance 100% yet. A small part of my brain still fears he is just a wolf in sheep's clothing. He was a dire Trump opponent at one time--- has he truly seen the light and turned a new leaf? Or has he simply deceived Trump and the voters into thinking he is full MAGA just so that he could try to ride Trump's coattails into office?

I feel the same way about Vance…His Catholicism scares me….the Church is all over the place.

 

[OldFlame]

I'm not going to believe for a second that you care about them dying in the streets. You only care about getting them locked up, out of sight, out of mind.

Why should the public care or subsidize someone that cares so little for their own life, that they steal money to pump chemicals into their systems that will eventually kill them? There's a difference between people who are down and out because of problems outside of their control, and the ones that intentionally and consciously choose to be half alive zombies that care for nothing but their next fix. I've had relatives that fit into the second category, we knew they'd end up dead eventually, it was their own choice. Most of these people have family that cares about them and loves them, that would do anything to get them out of the hell they've put themselves into, that would love to take them in and help them if they desired to get their lives straight. They choose to live in the streets, in filth, so they can be high all the time. **** them.

 

[OldFlame]

When all else fails, and it will, Fascism has a failsafe answer..

Forced steriilizatiion or lethal injection worked for Nazi Germany.

It becomes a situation in which the crime is invented to suit the punishment.

How profound, that's exactly what the left did to Trump and anyone they could do the same to within his circle.
Yet you ignored it then.

 

[Fang]

This is huge. The status quo, where the goal was to get these people back into society, has clearly been a massive failure.

I have been supporting this idea for years. It is cleary the right answer. THis could save thousands of lives. And reclaim our cities.

Hell,l maybe bring back the 24 hour donut shop and grocery stores.


Discuss.

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Takes Action to End Crime and Disorder on America’s Streets

ENDING VAGRANCY AND RESTORING ORDER: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to restore order to American cities and remove vagrant

www.whitehouse.gov

Ending homelessness, getting people with mental disorders the help they need and making our cities and towns safe? Democrats are gonna hate this.

 

[OldFlame]

That's pretty much why all of the asylums were closed down 60 years ago. "She's mentally unstable with a rape fantasy. That's the fourth intern that she's accused of raping her."

And you think she doesn't get raped on the street??? How many men do you think she ***** to get enough for her next fix?

 

[OldFlame]

The extreme right is always receptive to trying any answer they think could cause the problem to disappear. This is no different

Except that in this case the regime can resort to measures that are proven by fascism to work.

Americans will be receptive to just the threat to begin with. They've already told you that!

This problem didn't exist at all 60+ years ago, yet you can't identify what's different now?

 

[Failzero]

This problem didn't exist at all 60+ years ago, yet you can't identify what's different now?

After the twilight of the Hobos ( post War Post Depression ) Homelessness was very rare until the Drug Culture and Hippie era hit

 

[d0gbreath]

And you think she doesn't get raped on the street??? How many men do you think she ***** to get enough for her next fix?

Is this an example of two wrongs making a right?

 

[Zincwarrior]

What's the good in housing people who will just destroy it and continue to abuse drugs?

Soylent Green is the only option amirite?

 

[martybegan]

Soylent Green is the only option amirite?

 

[Zincwarrior]

funny just this year I got on a VA program that has a whole team of medical professionals coming to my house to care for me at the simple task of making a phone call. I got a new bed a new electric wheelchair and VA transport to out of system medical appointments, my wife gets paid to take care of me as my care giver as well, I never asked for the medical team they just called and asked if I wanted it.

Enjoy it. It will be gone shortly. MAGA.