Trump signs Executive Order making the drug cartels official terrorist organizations

Um making it harder for drugs to get here, by attacking the suppliers does something

I don’t disagree that more needs to be done about the despair and mental health that leads to addition

The USA has been chasing cartels through the desert now since the 1970's and they haven't even SLOWED DOWN the flow of drugs into the country. And it's not for lack of trying. More drugs are getting through than ever before.

How is declaring the cartels "terrorist organizations" going to make one iota of difference?
 
The USA has been chasing cartels through the desert now since the 1970's and they haven't even SLOWED DOWN the flow of drugs into the country. And it's not for lack of trying. More drugs are getting through than ever before.

How is declaring the cartels "terrorist organizations" going to make one iota of difference?
Certain designations can impact on sanctions on specific persons and entities and greater cash management related scrutiny.
 
Cause ye are talking crap...

Honestly why we cre..

There are 400,000 undocumented construction workers in Texas, wouldn't mind Europe taking them off your hands... We need Construction workers in Europe and ye seem to want to get rid of them. I know Texas has a massive housing shortage but you don't want them...



So my proposal would be for the EU to issue 3 year visas to Mexican workers (no tats with a solid work exp.)... They arrive on the 1st of March, work 2000 hours and that entitles them to a free flight home until next March. Work hard and you can be at home for 4 months (6 days at 10 hour day).
We would house them in modular housing in the countryside. Everyone happy.
People are flooding Texas after fleeing shithole Blue states.
 
The USA has been chasing cartels through the desert now since the 1970's and they haven't even SLOWED DOWN the flow of drugs into the country. And it's not for lack of trying. More drugs are getting through than ever before.

How is declaring the cartels "terrorist organizations" going to make one iota of difference?
Now we can use the military, Simp.
 
You are turning yourself into a preztel...

Terrorist Orgs want to to use violence as a way to terrorise people into changing society...

Drug Cartels want to make money, mainly by selling drugs... If there was no interference, there would be no violence. they use violence to get rid of interference in there business...

The differences in size and how they operate means a very different approach to taking them on...
The cartels have made billions trafficking people the past 4 years.
 
No stupid. It's orange man making everything WORSE - AGAIN!!!

Trump fixes NOTHING, and destroys EVERYTHING. Everything that Trump focuses on, gets WORSE.
What a stupid post. But exactly what we expect from you.
 
The USA has been chasing cartels through the desert now since the 1970's and they haven't even SLOWED DOWN the flow of drugs into the country. And it's not for lack of trying. More drugs are getting through than ever before.

How is declaring the cartels "terrorist organizations" going to make one iota of difference?
well the past four years has certainly been because of a lack of trying.

How can it hurt?
 
The cartels have made billions trafficking people the past 4 years.
The DISGUSTING FILTH never talks about this --

The fees charged for smuggling migrants differ substantially depending on the point of origin. Migrants smuggled across the border between Mexico and the United States pay about $2,000, [4] while migrants from beyond Mexico (and thus needing to cross multiple borders) could pay as much as $10,000.

Smuggling of migrants: the harsh search for a better life

 
No stupid. It's orange man making everything WORSE - AGAIN!!!

Trump fixes NOTHING, and destroys EVERYTHING. Everything that Trump focuses on, gets WORSE.
How is labeling cartels a terrorist organization making things worse? I mean, I guess it makes things worse for cartels, is that what you mean? Is that why you are so upset? You'll have a harder time getting your coke and sex slave?
 
How is labeling cartels a terrorist organization making things worse? I mean, I guess it makes things worse for cartels, is that what you mean? Is that why you are so upset? You'll have a harder time getting your coke and sex slave?
It's just repeating the garbage it heard on TV last night.

It's all they're capable of.
 
It's just repeating the garbage it heard on TV last night.

It's all they're capable of.
I saw that yesterday. 1 in my circle was all agitated.
Agitated by what the media news lied about. That's criminal man, causing anxiety n stuff like that for nothing.
Everything that had that person upset was absolute bullshit.
 
Are you underestimating them by calling them a Terrorist Organisation?

Do we think that taking on a Drug Cartel with vast resources by thinking we just need find the right place to send in a drone with a hellfire missile will work?
I prefer the idea of hiring mercenaries to raid their compounds and blow their friggin' heads off. The best way to fight fire is with fire.
 
I don't recall drug abuse going down during Trump's first administration either.

His talk may be tough, but his actions not so much

We will see once again.

Patience should be wanning thin though with the American people. At least Trump says he wants to fight them and secure the border as where the other side visibly could care less.

The bottom line is that these cartels are more powerful today than ever before.

Soon they may become unstoppable.


Is blustering the solution to a complicated issue? Watch Trump do nothing after designating the cartels as terrorist organizations.

Since when could the cartels be stopped?
 
No of course not. and you don't fight AQ the way you might fight Hamas...what's your point?

It's not just a label, it gives certain powers to the President to handle the group....such as easier to freeze assets and other fin sanctions, give consequences to states or organizations that give them aid, or individuals etc
So instead of writing actual laws that cover this you want to give blanket powers to the President...

So he can call anyone terrorists and seize there assets...

Can you see where this goes wrong... Simply write a law that describes what a Drug Cartel is and deal with that... Give absolute powers cause they scream is not very American and will no solve the problem.
 
How am I turning myself into a preztel

Correct, that's what they want to do, hence political.

Correct, if we just bent to their will, they wouldnt be violence....that's true of all terrorist organizations.

What's your point?
You are mislabeling organisations and want to get powers that were meant to be used on a very few people and now use them on a much larger basis...

Yet you can't see that as a problem... Were you the one complaining about Government overreach...
 

What does the order say?

The order says cartels are a national security threat in a way that traditional organized crime is not. They have conducted a "campaign of violence and terror through the Western hemisphere" with destabilizing effects, including a flood of "deadly drugs, violent criminals, and vicious gangs" into the United States.

It also says the cartels, as well as two transnational gangs rooted in Central America, pose a national security threat to the U.S., and it says it is American policy to "ensure the total elimination of these organizations' presence in the U.S."


The order instructs the U.S. State Department to recommend, within 14 days, whether to designate the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

I can't argue, can you?

Moreover, what should then be done?

This issue should not just unify both political parties, the issue should unify the entire world.

Let me be clear, with about 400 Americans dying every day from these cartels and the pain and suffering they peddle across the globe, no mercy should be shown to these parasites of humanity. None!!
Why did he pardon the proprietor of The Silk Road? If fentanyl had been a thing, this guy would have been selling it. Trump is a hypocrite letting off his rich, white, libertarian supporter, while demonizing hardworking brown people!
 
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So instead of writing actual laws that cover this you want to give blanket powers to the President...

So he can call anyone terrorists and seize there assets...

Can you see where this goes wrong... Simply write a law that describes what a Drug Cartel is and deal with that... Give absolute powers cause they scream is not very American and will no solve the problem.
There are laws that cover this. What are you talking about? There is a law that actually allows this
 
You are mislabeling organisations and want to get powers that were meant to be used on a very few people and now use them on a much larger basis...

Yet you can't see that as a problem... Were you the one complaining about Government overreach...
What is being mislabeled?

Why do you defend naroterrorist?
 
ted to many people were let into the US without anyone knowing who the hell they are.....lots of them young men....you would think they would try to be helping their countries instead of running....
Harry,

US isn't really serious about loosing there 11m undocumented workers... If they were there would be massive enforced fine on employers for hiring a single undocumented worker. There is not. Why? Look back to the 400,000 undocumented construction workers in Texas while they still have a housing shortage.

US has a massive need for low skilled & manual workers... It is what drives the economy. The immigrant population has a lower crime rate than the regular population while you have media that paints them as an evil horde.

Should everyone be vetted coming into the country and having a proper vetting visa program where people can come and go... This would be mutually beneficial to both the US Citizen and Immigrant. This was Reagans idea too...

Is sending everyone back economically and logistically in US best interest? Businesses would be closing because a lack of staff,.....

Does US probably need to issue a massive wave of vetting, temporary and semi-permeant visas. Let them stay and deal with ones that would fail a vetting.. I think this would be more humane and hell of alot safer..
 
What is being mislabeled?

Why do you defend naroterrorist?
Narcoterrorist is a terrorist org. They fund it selling drugs...

Drug Cartel sell drugs to make money and violence is to protect the business..
 
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