Trump should stop tweeting for a second and supervise coronavirus testing kit readiness

[OKTexas]

testing kits need to be ready and accessible for everyone. Testing is necessary in order for people to recover.
Yet many people cannot get tested at this time.

You're a linkless, liar. Anyone a doctor thinks need to be tested can be, by a local, State, university lab and the CDC. According to Azar the NY State lab refused further delivery of test kits.

So tell the class who needs to be tested that can't be and where they are.

.

 

[Oldstyle]

You are my source of information.

Jo

Here’s some information then.

Knowing who has a disease is essential to preventing its further spread.

You’d think that’d be obvious but here we are, having to explain the obvious.

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

 

[jc456]

You are my source of information.

Jo

Here’s some information then.

Knowing who has a disease is essential to preventing its further spread.

You’d think that’d be obvious but here we are, having to explain the obvious.

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

560 people who supposedly have the corona virus and 210,000 to 370,000 hospitalized with the flu, a virus that supposedly there's a vaccine for. hmmmmmmm you don't have logic on your side.

 

[Oldstyle]

Of course it would be helpful if we had secure borders that we could prevent people from entering our country in the advent of an even more serious medical emergency...but nah, who needs THAT...right liberals?

Whatever in the world makes you think it came across the southern border, instead of flying in on TWA or some other airline? The idea is ludicrous.

Oh, I'm quite sure it came in numerous ways...my point was that if we ever DID want to prevent something from coming in to the country we could do all the "travel bans" in the world and it wouldn't do a thing if our borders are so porous that anyone who wants to come in can.

Try to focus. Yours is a political point about preventing some unknown threat in the future. Covid19 is the threat under discussion right now.

Covid 19 is a flu. We get hundreds of strains of flu all over the world each and every year. Is this a particularly bad strain of flu? Yes, it is. Does that mean we can prevent it from spreading with test kits? No. That's just horseshit and you know it. If that did work we'd have used it for other bad strains of flu.

This one is more serious than most of the flu strains we have had, and most of those have been around long enough to have establish vaccines and treatment. This one has not, and has a much higher death rate. True, some forms of flu have been around a long time, killing a lot of people, and I a glad I have been vaccinated (by order of the government most of the time) since I was 20. I'm no virologist and not really an alarmist. I am just hoping I can avoid personally contracting it until more certain treatment and possibly a effect vaccine can be developed and distributed, probably sometime next year. Minimize the threat by comparing to flues we have seen, and more effectively treated is societal self defeating.

You do realize that flu vaccines only inoculate you against a small number strains...and that there are literally hundreds of different strains of flu present at any time around the world? If you live in an area that is visited by people from other areas then you're still potentially going to be exposed to flu that you have no protection from.

 

[jc456]

Whatever in the world makes you think it came across the southern border, instead of flying in on TWA or some other airline? The idea is ludicrous.

Oh, I'm quite sure it came in numerous ways...my point was that if we ever DID want to prevent something from coming in to the country we could do all the "travel bans" in the world and it wouldn't do a thing if our borders are so porous that anyone who wants to come in can.

Try to focus. Yours is a political point about preventing some unknown threat in the future. Covid19 is the threat under discussion right now.

Covid 19 is a flu. We get hundreds of strains of flu all over the world each and every year. Is this a particularly bad strain of flu? Yes, it is. Does that mean we can prevent it from spreading with test kits? No. That's just horseshit and you know it. If that did work we'd have used it for other bad strains of flu.

This one is more serious than most of the flu strains we have had, and most of those have been around long enough to have establish vaccines and treatment. This one has not, and has a much higher death rate. True, some forms of flu have been around a long time, killing a lot of people, and I a glad I have been vaccinated (by order of the government most of the time) since I was 20. I'm no virologist and not really an alarmist. I am just hoping I can avoid personally contracting it until more certain treatment and possibly a effect vaccine can be developed and distributed, probably sometime next year. Minimize the threat by comparing to flues we have seen, and more effectively treated is societal self defeating.

You do realize that flu vaccines only inoculate you against a small number strains...and that there are literally hundreds of different strains of flu present at any time around the world? If you live in an area that is visited by people from other areas then you're still potentially going to be exposed to flu that you have no protection from.

now oldstyle, why did you try and smarten up that fk?

 

[bendog]

Here’s some information then.

Knowing who has a disease is essential to preventing its further spread.

You’d think that’d be obvious but here we are, having to explain the obvious.

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

That's not quite what I said. "Contain" may limit the number of people infected. Fauci discussed this today. But the problem continues to be lack of testing which means we cannot tell what communities need to be self quarantined and "social distancing."

Instead what we may be looking at now is simply the spread of the virus without any containment. In 1918 entire towns were sealed off. We aren't agrarian anymore. If we end up with 60K people needing icu in addition to the people "normally" in icu, and 15% of the treating people infected as was the case in China … we may be fucked, because in China at least the army could seal off entire cities.

By fucked I just mean a bunch of dead people (60k?) and a recession.

 

[jc456]

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

That's not quite what I said. "Contain" may limit the number of people infected. Fauci discussed this today. But the problem continues to be lack of testing which means we cannot tell what communities need to be self quarantined and "social distancing."

Instead what we may be looking at now is simply the spread of the virus without any containment. In 1918 entire towns were sealed off. We aren't agrarian anymore. If we end up with 60K people needing icu in addition to the people "normally" in icu, and 15% of the treating people infected as was the case in China … we may be fucked, because in China at least the army could seal off entire cities.

By fucked I just mean a bunch of dead people (60k?) and a recession.

what does the testing do and who determines who gets tested? shouldn't everyone by your logic? you think there are 330 million kits? come on man, ain't you got at least one brain cell?

 

[colfax_m]

Here’s some information then.

Knowing who has a disease is essential to preventing its further spread.

You’d think that’d be obvious but here we are, having to explain the obvious.

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

 

[Oldstyle]

Oh, I'm quite sure it came in numerous ways...my point was that if we ever DID want to prevent something from coming in to the country we could do all the "travel bans" in the world and it wouldn't do a thing if our borders are so porous that anyone who wants to come in can.

Try to focus. Yours is a political point about preventing some unknown threat in the future. Covid19 is the threat under discussion right now.

Covid 19 is a flu. We get hundreds of strains of flu all over the world each and every year. Is this a particularly bad strain of flu? Yes, it is. Does that mean we can prevent it from spreading with test kits? No. That's just horseshit and you know it. If that did work we'd have used it for other bad strains of flu.

This one is more serious than most of the flu strains we have had, and most of those have been around long enough to have establish vaccines and treatment. This one has not, and has a much higher death rate. True, some forms of flu have been around a long time, killing a lot of people, and I a glad I have been vaccinated (by order of the government most of the time) since I was 20. I'm no virologist and not really an alarmist. I am just hoping I can avoid personally contracting it until more certain treatment and possibly a effect vaccine can be developed and distributed, probably sometime next year. Minimize the threat by comparing to flues we have seen, and more effectively treated is societal self defeating.

You do realize that flu vaccines only inoculate you against a small number strains...and that there are literally hundreds of different strains of flu present at any time around the world? If you live in an area that is visited by people from other areas then you're still potentially going to be exposed to flu that you have no protection from.

now oldstyle, why did you try and smarten up that fk?

I live and work in Florida. I come in contact with people from all around the country...and all around the globe. I don't get a flu vaccine because to be blunt it's not worth the bother. Some years I get sick. Most years I get lucky and it misses me. I'm not changing my way of living though. To do so would be akin to never leaving your house because you're worried a bolt of lightning might kill you. It happens. You can't make it not happen.

 

[jc456]

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

you can track it? how do you do that?

 

[colfax_m]

Try to focus. Yours is a political point about preventing some unknown threat in the future. Covid19 is the threat under discussion right now.

Covid 19 is a flu. We get hundreds of strains of flu all over the world each and every year. Is this a particularly bad strain of flu? Yes, it is. Does that mean we can prevent it from spreading with test kits? No. That's just horseshit and you know it. If that did work we'd have used it for other bad strains of flu.

This one is more serious than most of the flu strains we have had, and most of those have been around long enough to have establish vaccines and treatment. This one has not, and has a much higher death rate. True, some forms of flu have been around a long time, killing a lot of people, and I a glad I have been vaccinated (by order of the government most of the time) since I was 20. I'm no virologist and not really an alarmist. I am just hoping I can avoid personally contracting it until more certain treatment and possibly a effect vaccine can be developed and distributed, probably sometime next year. Minimize the threat by comparing to flues we have seen, and more effectively treated is societal self defeating.

You do realize that flu vaccines only inoculate you against a small number strains...and that there are literally hundreds of different strains of flu present at any time around the world? If you live in an area that is visited by people from other areas then you're still potentially going to be exposed to flu that you have no protection from.

now oldstyle, why did you try and smarten up that fk?

I live and work in Florida. I come in contact with people from all around the country...and all around the globe. I don't get a flu vaccine because to be blunt it's not worth the bother. Some years I get sick. Most years I get lucky and it misses me. I'm not changing my way of living though. To do so would be akin to never leaving your house because you're worried a bolt of lightning might kill you. It happens. You can't make it not happen.

You really think the flu vaccine isn't worth the bother?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

testing kits need to be ready and accessible for everyone. Testing is necessary in order for people to recover.
Yet many people cannot get tested at this time.

Right lol

And Obama should have put on a gun and a badge to stop all the attacks on cops under his leadership right?

Our government needs to WORK TOGETHER on this issue and stop slinging partisan mud all over the damn place.

 

[jc456]

Covid 19 is a flu. We get hundreds of strains of flu all over the world each and every year. Is this a particularly bad strain of flu? Yes, it is. Does that mean we can prevent it from spreading with test kits? No. That's just horseshit and you know it. If that did work we'd have used it for other bad strains of flu.

This one is more serious than most of the flu strains we have had, and most of those have been around long enough to have establish vaccines and treatment. This one has not, and has a much higher death rate. True, some forms of flu have been around a long time, killing a lot of people, and I a glad I have been vaccinated (by order of the government most of the time) since I was 20. I'm no virologist and not really an alarmist. I am just hoping I can avoid personally contracting it until more certain treatment and possibly a effect vaccine can be developed and distributed, probably sometime next year. Minimize the threat by comparing to flues we have seen, and more effectively treated is societal self defeating.

You do realize that flu vaccines only inoculate you against a small number strains...and that there are literally hundreds of different strains of flu present at any time around the world? If you live in an area that is visited by people from other areas then you're still potentially going to be exposed to flu that you have no protection from.

now oldstyle, why did you try and smarten up that fk?

I live and work in Florida. I come in contact with people from all around the country...and all around the globe. I don't get a flu vaccine because to be blunt it's not worth the bother. Some years I get sick. Most years I get lucky and it misses me. I'm not changing my way of living though. To do so would be akin to never leaving your house because you're worried a bolt of lightning might kill you. It happens. You can't make it not happen.

You really think the flu vaccine isn't worth the bother?

correct. aren't we allowed to? why is it you think you get the say?

 

[Oldstyle]

Interesting...so you're saying that people knowing they have a virus is going to stop the spread of said virus? Kindly explain why every year millions of people come down with the flu? In your personal experience has the knowledge that a flu is going around EVER kept other people from getting the flu?

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

Influenza is the general term used to describe strains of virus. The Coronavirus is simply one more strain of flu. More virulent than others perhaps but probably not as virulent as say the Swine flu was years back.

 

[colfax_m]

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

Influenza is the general term used to describe strains of virus. The Coronavirus is simply one more strain of flu. More virulent than others perhaps but probably not as virulent as say the Swine flu was years back.

No, it isn't one strain of flu. Influenza is a family of viruses, coronavirus is another.

 

[Oldstyle]

Covid 19 is a flu. We get hundreds of strains of flu all over the world each and every year. Is this a particularly bad strain of flu? Yes, it is. Does that mean we can prevent it from spreading with test kits? No. That's just horseshit and you know it. If that did work we'd have used it for other bad strains of flu.

This one is more serious than most of the flu strains we have had, and most of those have been around long enough to have establish vaccines and treatment. This one has not, and has a much higher death rate. True, some forms of flu have been around a long time, killing a lot of people, and I a glad I have been vaccinated (by order of the government most of the time) since I was 20. I'm no virologist and not really an alarmist. I am just hoping I can avoid personally contracting it until more certain treatment and possibly a effect vaccine can be developed and distributed, probably sometime next year. Minimize the threat by comparing to flues we have seen, and more effectively treated is societal self defeating.

You do realize that flu vaccines only inoculate you against a small number strains...and that there are literally hundreds of different strains of flu present at any time around the world? If you live in an area that is visited by people from other areas then you're still potentially going to be exposed to flu that you have no protection from.

now oldstyle, why did you try and smarten up that fk?

I live and work in Florida. I come in contact with people from all around the country...and all around the globe. I don't get a flu vaccine because to be blunt it's not worth the bother. Some years I get sick. Most years I get lucky and it misses me. I'm not changing my way of living though. To do so would be akin to never leaving your house because you're worried a bolt of lightning might kill you. It happens. You can't make it not happen.

You really think the flu vaccine isn't worth the bother?

If it protects me from a dozen strains of flu but not from a hundred others and I live in an area that has visitors from other places with other strains of flu? No...I don't think it's worth the bother.

 

[jc456]

Because when you know who has the disease, you can quarantine those who have been exposed to that person and mitigate the further spread.

Ted Cruz is in self-quarantine right now because he was exposed to someone with the disease. He wouldn’t have done so without testing.

This should be obvious.

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

Influenza is the general term used to describe strains of virus. The Coronavirus is simply one more strain of flu. More virulent than others perhaps but probably not as virulent as say the Swine flu was years back.

well it appears it doesn't attack kids. strange huh?

 

[jc456]

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

Influenza is the general term used to describe strains of virus. The Coronavirus is simply one more strain of flu. More virulent than others perhaps but probably not as virulent as say the Swine flu was years back.

No, it isn't one strain of flu. Influenza is a family of viruses, coronavirus is another.

dude, can you hear yourself, you're laughing at you. influenza is a group of viruses, corona is a virus. what a derp.

 

[Oldstyle]

How does that differ from what we ALWAYS do when it comes to flu epidemics. You come down with the flu...you stay home from work and try to avoid contact with friends and family. How does a test kit help in any way? You know you've got the flu. You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

Influenza is the general term used to describe strains of virus. The Coronavirus is simply one more strain of flu. More virulent than others perhaps but probably not as virulent as say the Swine flu was years back.

No, it isn't one strain of flu. Influenza is a family of viruses, coronavirus is another.

I just said Influenza is the general term for viruses. Corona virus is one more in that family.

 

[jc456]

Initally, if we'd been able to isolate original cases, we might have been able to contain it. Probably not, imo. But because with the "normal" flu, we have roughly half the population vaccinated, it won't spread as "well."

At this point, you're probably right that the general population will get what it will get. But we're not even testing the docs and nurses and cops and firefighters. If we identied the positive caregivers, they could be isolated until they get well. Now we most likely have infected people checking on people who may not yet be infected.

But the proof in the pudding will be if we end up with 30k-60k seriously ill people, in addition to all the people in nursing homes and hosptials, will we have the caregivers healthy? And would testing have protected the critical workers? We'll see.

With all due respect, Ben...have we EVER been able "contain" any strain of influenza? I think you know the answer to that. So what are we talking about here when we complain about a lack of "kits" for this strain? You're always going to have people spreading flu that may not know that they have the flue. It's the nature of the beast.

This isn’t influenza. This is a novel strain of Coronavirus with a more aggressive pathogenicity.

We can track it and cut it off before it becomes widespread in the community, but only if we can identify cases first.

Influenza is the general term used to describe strains of virus. The Coronavirus is simply one more strain of flu. More virulent than others perhaps but probably not as virulent as say the Swine flu was years back.

No, it isn't one strain of flu. Influenza is a family of viruses, coronavirus is another.

I just said Influenza is the general term for viruses. Corona virus is one more in that family.

the dude got himself in a pretzel. he even wrote it that way. too fking funny. he's gotta be laughing at himself. for that one.