Trump should be banned from politics

Trump should be indicted for at least six crimes and banned from politics: legal experts​

Donald Trump should be facing prosecution for a half dozen crimes, according to a pair of legal experts, but instead he's preparing for another presidential run that he just might win.

The twice-impeached president has raised $122 million, more than twice the amount of the Republican National Committee, ahead of the 2024 presidential campaign that he shouldn't even be eligible to take part in, argued former White House ethics attorney Richard Painter in a new column for MSNBC.
"The 14th Amendment, Section 3, disqualifies from public office anyone who took an oath of loyalty to the United States and shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," Painter argued in a forthcoming law review article with Claire Finkelstein, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Painter, who served under former president George W. Bush, suspects Trump is assembling a coalition that includes Russian president Vladimir Putin and other foreign backers, and he said the ex-president's corruption runs deep.
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“[C]rimes for which Trump could be indicted include but are not limited to," Painter and Finkelstein wrote, "(1) obstructing justice as identified in the Mueller investigation, (2) bribing and/or extorting Ukraine with military aid to investigate his political opponent Joe Biden and conduct another investigation undermining the Mueller investigation, (3) coercing cabinet members and other federal employees to engage in partisan political activity in violation of the criminal political coercion provisions of the Hatch Act, (4) soliciting election fraud in a phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State in November 2020, (5) criminal sedition in authorizing preparation of the unsigned draft Executive Order dated December 16, 2020 pursuant to which President Trump would have ordered the Secretary of Defense to seize voting machines in certain states to look for evidence of election fraud, and (6) inciting insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. These alleged politically-related crimes are over and above the financial crimes being investigated by the Manhattan DA, who has already indicted the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer."
Trump has always managed to stay one step ahead of the law, and Painter said the next two election cycles would give him a chance to sidestep the multitude of criminal investigations of his business and political activities -- with devastating consequences for American democracy.
"A republic doesn’t just become a dictatorship overnight," Painter said. "Voters choose for it to be that way. Voters get what they vote for."
"Americans will go to the polls this November and decide whether to return Trump loyalists in the GOP to Congress," he concluded. "Then we will go to the polls again in 2024. We know that Trump’s insurrectionists will have a lot of money to spend in both election cycles. If we do not make wise decisions in those elections in spite of this knowledge, 2025 could bring an entirely new chapter in American history, and not one that our founders, or most of us, would hope for."
trump is not going to be an issue much longer, if he's convicted of just one of his many crimes he won't be able to run for any office and now that McConnell is helping shore up the cases against him with insider information it's a done deal.
 
trump is not going to be an issue much longer, if he's convicted of just one of his many crimes he won't be able to run for any office and now that McConnell is helping shore up the cases against him with insider information it's a done deal.
"If". What are the chances that any jury won't have at least one loyalist who will wreck a case?

Not unlike a mob trial.

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eddiew37
Good Lord. I'll just stand over here and LMAO. What an idiot you are.

If anyone should be banned from politics it the incompetent, walking talking disaster YOU voted for. Congrats on your vote. Hope you're ready to get shellacked in November and 2024.

I hope Trump runs and wins. We would have a competent man in the WH. Not the idiot you voted for.
 
"If". What are the chances that any jury won't have at least one loyalist who will wreck a case?

Not unlike a mob trial.

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Every time Trump opens his mouth he's sealing his own fate. I never saw such a foolish man.
 
eddiew37
Good Lord. I'll just stand over here and LMAO. What an idiot you are.

If anyone should be banned from politics it the incompetent, walking talking disaster YOU voted for. Congrats on your vote. Hope you're ready to get shellacked in November and 2024.

I hope Trump runs and wins. We would have a competent man in the WH. Not the idiot you voted for.
Trump the pervert anf lying pos is right up your ally cladette
 
Every time Trump opens his mouth he's sealing his own fate. I never saw such a foolish man.
Yeah. It seems he lacks the intellectual/temperamental wherewithal to understand that his behaviors as a loud, pushy NY real estate guy just don't translate to the national stage, let alone politics or the law. He clearly thought, and thinks, that he can just do what "worked" for him locally and it will all work out.

That may not be the case.
 

Trump should be indicted for at least six crimes and banned from politics: legal experts​

Donald Trump should be facing prosecution for a half dozen crimes, according to a pair of legal experts, but instead he's preparing for another presidential run that he just might win.

The twice-impeached president has raised $122 million, more than twice the amount of the Republican National Committee, ahead of the 2024 presidential campaign that he shouldn't even be eligible to take part in, argued former White House ethics attorney Richard Painter in a new column for MSNBC.
"The 14th Amendment, Section 3, disqualifies from public office anyone who took an oath of loyalty to the United States and shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," Painter argued in a forthcoming law review article with Claire Finkelstein, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Painter, who served under former president George W. Bush, suspects Trump is assembling a coalition that includes Russian president Vladimir Putin and other foreign backers, and he said the ex-president's corruption runs deep.
READ: Slur-spewing firefighters caught on hot mic mocking 8-year-old Black girl killed by police

“[C]rimes for which Trump could be indicted include but are not limited to," Painter and Finkelstein wrote, "(1) obstructing justice as identified in the Mueller investigation, (2) bribing and/or extorting Ukraine with military aid to investigate his political opponent Joe Biden and conduct another investigation undermining the Mueller investigation, (3) coercing cabinet members and other federal employees to engage in partisan political activity in violation of the criminal political coercion provisions of the Hatch Act, (4) soliciting election fraud in a phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State in November 2020, (5) criminal sedition in authorizing preparation of the unsigned draft Executive Order dated December 16, 2020 pursuant to which President Trump would have ordered the Secretary of Defense to seize voting machines in certain states to look for evidence of election fraud, and (6) inciting insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. These alleged politically-related crimes are over and above the financial crimes being investigated by the Manhattan DA, who has already indicted the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer."
Trump has always managed to stay one step ahead of the law, and Painter said the next two election cycles would give him a chance to sidestep the multitude of criminal investigations of his business and political activities -- with devastating consequences for American democracy.
"A republic doesn’t just become a dictatorship overnight," Painter said. "Voters choose for it to be that way. Voters get what they vote for."
"Americans will go to the polls this November and decide whether to return Trump loyalists in the GOP to Congress," he concluded. "Then we will go to the polls again in 2024. We know that Trump’s insurrectionists will have a lot of money to spend in both election cycles. If we do not make wise decisions in those elections in spite of this knowledge, 2025 could bring an entirely new chapter in American history, and not one that our founders, or most of us, would hope for."
Then you ll have nothing to bitch about
 
eddiew37
Yup. Trump is right up my alley. He was a good POTUS and will be one again. Let us know when he's arrested. Hope you hold your breath poser.

The incompetent walking talking disaster named Bidung is right up your alley Ed.
 
It seems he lacks the intellectual/temperamental wherewithal to understand that his behaviors as a loud, pushy NY real estate guy just don't translate to the national stage,
Thats odd

I could swear he was elected president in 2016

and probably 2020 also, though you may choose to dispute that
 
Name something that he did that is so intolerable.
Mr B ,,kissed Putins ass for starters Believed that murdering swine ahead of our agencies
And did such a swell job with the virus afraid to tell the people the truth?? How man extra lives did the moron kill ?
 
Mr B ,,kissed Putins ass for starters Believed that murdering swine ahead of our agencies
And did such a swell job with the virus afraid to tell the people the truth?? How man extra lives did the moron kill ?
Prove it.

More folks have died under Joe Biden than under Trump. . . and former intel agents that haven't been politicized, disagree with your POV about Putin. In fact, the folks that put out that Putin narrative are now under indictment. . .

. . . so. . . . :dunno:

I know you have a highly partisan POV? But it really does depend on one's POV. I know this is hard for you to accept, but that is the system we live in, innocent till proven guilty. You NEED to prove it. There is no hard, undeniable proof. As much as you would like to believe your reality? It is not an inarguably one. Your POV could be correct, but then again? It could be in error.



Indicted Clinton lawyer hired CrowdStrike, firm behind dubious Russian hacking claim​

The indictment of Michael Sussmann raises new questions about Russiagate’s foundational Russian hacking allegation. That claim originates with CrowdStrike -- a firm hired and overseen by Sussmann.​



I remember when Ray McGovern. . . probably this nation's best independent investigative journalist. . when he called bullshit on this whole story. This will be his final redemption. RIP (And remember. . he's the lefty that uncovered Iran-Contra too! :cool: )

FBI Never Saw CrowdStrike Unredacted or Final Report on Alleged Russian Hacking Because None was Produced​


This article was from June 17, 2019.

". . . These drafts were “voluntarily” given to the FBI by DNC lawyers, the filing says. “No redacted information concerned the attribution of the attack to Russian actors,” the filing quotes DNC lawyers as saying.

In Stone’s motion his lawyers argued: “If the Russian state did not hack the DNC, DCCC, or [Clinton campaign chairman John] Podesta’s servers, then Roger Stone was prosecuted for obstructing a congressional investigation into an unproven Russian state hacking conspiracy … The issue of whether or not the DNC was hacked is central to the Defendant’s defense.”

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CrowdStrike’s Early Role


In a Memorandum for the President on July 24, 2017, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity referred prominently to this instructive time sequence:




VIPS does not believe the June 12, 14, & 15 timing was pure coincidence. Rather, it suggests the start of a pre-emptive move to associate Russia with anything WikiLeaks might have been about to publish and to “show” that it came from a Russian hack.

Bill Binney, a former NSA technical director and a VIPS member, filed an affidavit in Stone’s case. Binney said: “WikiLeaks did not receive stolen data from the Russian government. Intrinsic metadata in the publicly available files on WikiLeaks demonstrates that the files acquired by WikiLeaks were delivered in a medium such as a thumb drive.”

<snip>

What Were They Thinking?

At the March 20, 2017 House Intelligence Committee hearing, Congressman Trey Gowdy heaped effusive praise on then-FBI Director Comey, calling him “incredibly respected.” At that early stage, no doubt Gowdy meant no double entendre. He might now.

As Russia-gate transmogrifies into Deep State-gate, the DOJ is launching a probe into the origins of Russia-gate and the intelligence agencies alleged role in it. It remains to be seen whether U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut John Durham, who is leading the probe, will interview Assange, unlike Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who did not.

It is proving very difficult for some of my old FBI friends and others to believe that Comey and other justice, intelligence, and security officials at the very top could have played fast and loose with the Constitution and the law and lived a lie over the past few years.

“How did they ever think they could get away with it?” they ask. The answer is deceivingly simple. Comey himself has explained it in a moment of seemingly unintentional candor in his pretentious book, “A Higher Loyalty.” He wrote, “I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president.. . . ”



 
She drank the Kool-Aid, definitely a cult member. Hope she doesn't have to kill herself too.
Like to fantasize about other posters, with whom you disagree, killing themselves? You need some KY?

We'll remember this about you. Screenshots are forever.
 
An accusation of wrongdoing isn't the same as a conviction.


I guess for the likes of Brandon-apologists waiting to receive their free crack pipes in the mail, any port in the storm will do.

But in America, we don't disenfranchise 74 million Little Trumpsters just because someone dreams up accusations.
They have found stolen classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. To conduct a raid, they have to have fairly good information that they'd find something, which they did.
 
They have found stolen classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. To conduct a raid, they have to have fairly good information that they'd find something, which they did.
Probably looking in the sewage pipes again...........Oh well........enjoy digging through the shit.
 

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