Trump sets a "pattern of behavior" with his pardon....

[nat4900]

In law, its called a pattern of behavior or a pattern of conduct when someone establishes a recurring event that distinguishes it from an "isolated instance"....

Of course we are here talking about Trump's recent pardon of the sheriff which resembles what Trump tried to accomplish through Comey regarding Mike Flynn.

The rule of law is a foreign concept for Trump......In his business dealings, Trump was used to simply issue a mandate (remember in his businesses he never had a board to curb his actions) and folks either fell in line of were fired..............Unfortunately for Trump, government does NOT work that way.

Rest assured that Trump's recent pardon will not go unnoticed by Mueller's investigators in advising the current grand juries that this guy has established a pattern of behavior that places him above the rule of law.....or, at least, a pattern that he thinks is acceptable.....It is not.

The issue is NOT whether Trump has the authority to grant pardons; the issue is whether a president can circumvent the legal procedures just because he wants to avoid an investigation of his own misdeeds,as he tried to do by getting Flynn "off the hook."

Bear in mind that Trump LOVES dog whistle assertions........His dwindling base isvery muchof the canine persuasion.....(too bad because I actually love dogs.)

What Trump has done with his pardon of the law breaker Arpaio, is to NOTIFY ALL OF THOSE WHO WERE PLANNING TO TESTIFY AGAINST HIM IN THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION, IS TO REFRAIN FROM SUCH "SINGING", SINCE HE CAN "PARDON" THEM AFTERWARDS IF THEY KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND GET SENTENCED.

 

[eddiew37]

In law, its called a pattern of behavior or a pattern of conduct when someone establishes a recurring event that distinguishes it from an "isolated instance"....

Of course we are here talking about Trump's recent pardon of the sheriff which resembles what Trump tried to accomplish through Comey regarding Mike Flynn.

The rule of law is a foreign concept for Trump......In his business dealings, Trump was used to simply issue a mandate (remember in his businesses he never had a board to curb his actions) and folks either fell in line of were fired..............Unfortunately for Trump, government does NOT work that way.

Rest assured that Trump's recent pardon will not go unnoticed by Mueller's investigators in advising the current grand juries that this guy has established a pattern of behavior that places him above the rule of law.....or, at least, a pattern that he thinks is acceptable.....It is not.

The issue is NOT whether Trump has the authority to grant pardons; the issue is whether a president can circumvent the legal procedures just because he wants to avoid an investigation of his own misdeeds,as he tried to do by getting Flynn "off the hook."

Bear in mind that Trump LOVES dog whistle assertions........His dwindling base isvery muchof the canine persuasion.....(too bad because I actually love dogs.)

What Trump has done with his pardon of the law breaker Arpaio, is to NOTIFY ALL OF THOSE WHO WERE PLANNING TO TESTIFY AGAINST HIM IN THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION, IS TO REFRAIN FROM SUCH "SINGING", SINCE HE CAN "PARDON" THEM AFTERWARDS IF THEY KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND GET SENTENCED.

But doesn't a pardon signify their guilt and remove the 5th from any testimony in court?

 

[nat4900]

But doesn't a pardon signify their guilt and remove the 5th from any testimony in court?

Not sure....Certainly a pardon has always precipitated a statement of admission of guilt and contrition...But such has NOT been offered by Arpaio.....
However, Arpaio is NOT exempt from civil lawsuits (during his tenure as sheriff,the county had to pay $140 million to settle civil lawsuits against his actions)......But now that he is out of office, Arpaio may face some PERSONAL lawsuits that will keep his lawyers quite wealthy....

Expect a right wing, white supremacist "fund" to be set up for Arpaio's "defense"....

 

[Flash]

What kind of "pattern" did that asshole Obama established by giving pardons to criminal like this?

Some of the many:

Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017) | PARDON | Department of Justice

Offense:

Conspiracy to embezzle by trustee or officer; embezzlement by trustee (five counts); making a false account (Northern District of Oklahoma)

Sentence:

12 years' imprisonment; $350,000 restitution (February 27, 1989)


John Clyde Anderson

Offense:

Conspiracy to import a controlled substance (Southern District of California)

Sentence:

Three years’ imprisonment, suspended; three years’ probation, conditioned upon six months’ confinement; two years’ special parole (August 21, 1972)


Zachary James Ray Anderson

Offense:

Conspiracy to defraud the United States by knowingly and without lawful authority producing false identification documents (Western District of Kentucky)

Sentence:

15 months' imprisonment; two years' supervised release (April 17, 2003)


Octavio Joaquin Armenteros, aka Octavio Joaquin Armenteros-Iglesias

Offense:

Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine (Middle District of Florida)

Sentence:

46 months' imprisonment; three years' supervised release (November 3, 1995)


Stephen Lee Arrington

Offense:

Conspiracy to distribute cocaine; distribution of cocaine (Central District of California)

Sentence:

Three years' imprisonment, three years' special parole (September 2, 1983) (as amended July 24, 1985)


John R. Barker, aka Johnnie Ray Barker

Offense:

Illegal acquisition and possession of food stamp coupons (Northern District of Iowa)

Sentence:

Two years' probation; $250 restitution (November 23, 1983)


Yolanda DeAnn Beck

Offense:

Distribution of cocaine base (Central District of Illinois)

Sentence:

30 months' imprisonment; three years' supervised release; $100 restitution (June 2, 1995)

James Gordon Christmas III


Offense:

Uttering worthless checks (23 specifications); wrongful use of cocaine (United States Army general court-martial convened at Fort Benning, Georgia)

Sentence:

12 months' confinement; forfeiture of $350 pay per month for 12 months; reduction in rank from E-4 to E-1; $1,000 fine; bad conduct discharge (June 23, 1988)


Kim Kathleen Drake, fka Kim Hahn and Kim Otto

Offense:

Bank embezzlement (District of Idaho)

Sentence:

One month of imprisonment; five years' supervised release, conditioned upon three months’ home confinement; $500 fine; $10,944.37 restitution (November 23, 1999)


Euphemia Lavonte Duncan, aka Euphemia Duncan-Stringer

Offense:

Bank fraud (Southern District of Florida)

Sentence:

Time served; 36 months' supervised release; $15,680 restitution (June 8, 2000)


Germeen Duplessis, fka Germeen Michael Hasson

Offense:

Conspiracy to launder money (District of New Mexico)

Sentence:

Three years' probation (March 6, 2007)


Joseph William Hopkins

Offense:

Distribution of cocaine (Northern District of Texas)

Sentence:

Five years' probation, conditioned upon 120 days’ halfway house confinement; three years’ special parole term (December 14, 1984)


Michelle Breazeale Horton, fka Michelle Diane Mulkey and Michelle Diane Breazeale

Offense:

Conspiracy to commit mail fraud (District of South Carolina)

Sentence:

Five years' probation, conditioned upon six months' home confinement; $11,633.98 restitution (May 17, 2004)

Samuel Wesley Howze, aka Sala Udin

Offense:

Unlawfully transporting firearms; possession of untaxpaid distilled spirits

District/Date:

Western District of Kentucky; November 20, 1970

Victoria Hunter Lowe

Offense:

Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute methamphetamine

District/Date:

Western District of Texas; July 18, 2006

Sentence:

46 months' imprisonment; three years' supervised release

Michael Slavinsky

Offense:

Misdemeanor illegal supplementation of salary by an employee of the United States

District/Date:

District of Columbia; January 7, 1998

Sentence:

Three years' probation, conditioned upon performance of 50 hours of community service; $10,000 restitution


Richard Earl Smout

Offense:

Possession of stolen mail

District/Date:

District of Utah; November 20, 2001

Sentence:

Time served (77 days' imprisonment) and two years' supervised release


Robin Shelley Soodeen

Offense:

Bank embezzlement

District/Date:

District of Columbia; October 2, 2001

 

[nat4900]

What kind of "pattern" did that asshole Obama established by giving pardons to criminal like this?

"Best" defense of Trump........equals an attack on the other guy.....

Does THAT mean that you "think"that Trump is ALSO an asshole?

 

[eddiew37]

But doesn't a pardon signify their guilt and remove the 5th from any testimony in court?

Not sure....Certainly a pardon has always precipitated a statement of admission of guilt and contrition...But such has NOT been offered by Arpaio.....
However, Arpaio is NOT exempt from civil lawsuits (during his tenure as sheriff,the county had to pay $140 million to settle civil lawsuits against his actions)......But now that he is out of office, Arpaio may face some PERSONAL lawsuits that will keep his lawyers quite wealthy....

Expect a right wing, white supremacist "fund" to be set up for Arpaio's "defense"....

The POS is looking for donations Why not from Trump? lol

 

[Flash]

The hypocrisy with these hateful confused Moon Bats is amazing.

These Moon Bat dumbasses all voted for that creep Obama who granted 1,715 commutations and 212 pardons to criminals, the most of any President. That idiot even commuted the sentence of a convicted traitor.

 

[HappyJoy]

Agree, however at this point did Trump have any other option? He only has his base at this point and they would have been constantly on his ass about it. He is beholden to Breitbart and the alt-right/racists of his party.

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

 

[jon_berzerk]

jon in your wildest dreams you can never ever be as smart as I am You support AH's Nuff said

you are not smart edds

in fact you have outed yourself on numerous occasions

I've cut ol Eddie to pieces many times. It's not hard to do.

indeed he exposes himself rather quickly

he used to claim he was a republican --LOL

I still do make that claim Even voted for the moron gwb in 2000 But since then came to my senses You haven't. Never thought we could get worse ,,Trump proved me wrong

If you were ever registered as a Republican it was only to serve as a mole so you could undermine the party.

with his views he never ever was a republican

 

[jon_berzerk]

i c stupid eddie is posting again

--LOL

jon in your wildest dreams you can never ever be as smart as I am You support AH's Nuff said

you are not smart edds

in fact you have outed yourself on numerous occasions

I've cut ol Eddie to pieces many times. It's not hard to do.

indeed he exposes himself rather quickly

he used to claim he was a republican --LOL

I still do make that claim Even voted for the moron gwb in 2000 But since then came to my senses You haven't. Never thought we could get worse ,,Trump proved me wrong

you can "claim" all you want

it is more then obvious you are a liar

 

[tecoyah]

The Trump pattern was in place long before the election.

 

[bripat9643]

Agree, however at this point did Trump have any other option? He only has his base at this point and they would have been constantly on his ass about it. He is beholden to Breitbart and the alt-right/racists of his party.

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Many in Clinton's base are racist, like Moslems. They are all antisemitic, but turds like you don't have a problem with that so long as they vote Democrat.

 

[skews13]

In law, its called a pattern of behavior or a pattern of conduct when someone establishes a recurring event that distinguishes it from an "isolated instance"....

Of course we are here talking about Trump's recent pardon of the sheriff which resembles what Trump tried to accomplish through Comey regarding Mike Flynn.

The rule of law is a foreign concept for Trump......In his business dealings, Trump was used to simply issue a mandate (remember in his businesses he never had a board to curb his actions) and folks either fell in line of were fired..............Unfortunately for Trump, government does NOT work that way.

Rest assured that Trump's recent pardon will not go unnoticed by Mueller's investigators in advising the current grand juries that this guy has established a pattern of behavior that places him above the rule of law.....or, at least, a pattern that he thinks is acceptable.....It is not.

The issue is NOT whether Trump has the authority to grant pardons;the issue is whether a president can circumvent the legal procedures just because he wants to avoid an investigation of his own misdeeds,as he tried to do by getting Flynn "off the hook."

Agree, however at this point did Trump have any other option? He only has his base at this point and they would have been constantly on his ass about it. He is beholden to Breitbart and the alt-right/racists of his party.

Trump actually has more broad support now than he did during the campaign.

Actually he doesn't.

 

[bripat9643]

Agree, however at this point did Trump have any other option? He only has his base at this point and they would have been constantly on his ass about it. He is beholden to Breitbart and the alt-right/racists of his party.

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Horseshit. There are probably less than 10,000 neo-Nazis in the entire country.

 

[HappyJoy]

Agree, however at this point did Trump have any other option? He only has his base at this point and they would have been constantly on his ass about it. He is beholden to Breitbart and the alt-right/racists of his party.

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Many in Clinton's base are racist, like Moslems. They are all antisemitic, but turds like you don't have a problem with that so long as they vote Democrat.

Moslem? When did you get old-timey finger boi?

Clinton support (who won the popular vote) was diverse, whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, LGBTQ, Jews and yeah, Muslims, hell even Christians.

The klan, neo-nazis and alt-right humped the Trump train.

 

[HappyJoy]

Agree, however at this point did Trump have any other option? He only has his base at this point and they would have been constantly on his ass about it. He is beholden to Breitbart and the alt-right/racists of his party.

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Horseshit. There are probably less than 10,000 neo-Nazis in the entire country.

How many sympathizers are there? You know, people who give them the benefit of the doubt?

 

[bripat9643]

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Many in Clinton's base are racist, like Moslems. They are all antisemitic, but turds like you don't have a problem with that so long as they vote Democrat.

Moslem? When did you get old-timey finger boi?

Clinton support (who won the popular vote) was diverse, whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, LGBTQ, Jews and yeah, Muslims, hell even Christians.

The klan, neo-nazis and alt-right humped the Trump train.

Commies, ISIS, convicted felons, child molesters, perverts, terrorists - those are Clinton's base. She even had the father of the pig who gunned down 50 people in Orlando standing behind her at one of her rallies.

 

[Auld Phart]

MOD NOTE:

Well over a dozen posts deleted for off topic/no content and childish taunts.

If you people want to act like that, start a thread in a Zone 3 Forum.

 

[bripat9643]

If the pardon of Arpaio were the ONLY stupid thing that Trump had done, then it would not be a "pattern of behavior".......However, to have done it AFTER trying to get Flynn "off the hook", is the establishment of a pattern.

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Horseshit. There are probably less than 10,000 neo-Nazis in the entire country.

How many sympathizers are there? You know, people who give them the benefit of the doubt?

Probably none.

 

[HappyJoy]

Completely agree, I think Trump's pattern is simply to please his racist base.

Healthcare for example, they really don't care, they just don't like the black guy's plan and that's how Trump has been playing it.

Stuff like that is the reason Trump got elected. Normal people are fed up with being called racist simply for supporting common sense policies like controlling illegal immigration.

Many in his base are racist, it's why David Duke and Robert Spencer are so giddy.

Many in Clinton's base are racist, like Moslems. They are all antisemitic, but turds like you don't have a problem with that so long as they vote Democrat.

Moslem? When did you get old-timey finger boi?

Clinton support (who won the popular vote) was diverse, whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, LGBTQ, Jews and yeah, Muslims, hell even Christians.

The klan, neo-nazis and alt-right humped the Trump train.

Commies, ISIS, convicted felons, child molesters, perverts, terrorists - those are Clinton's base. She even had the father of the pig who killed 50 people in Orlando standing behind her at one of her rallies.

Commies? Oh, noez.

ISIS? When did ISIS endorse anyone for president?

She 'didn't have' the father of the homophobic terrorist at her rally, they didn't know who he was.

Perverts? I'm pretty sure Trump voted for himself.