trump says the quiet part out loud. Again.

[Rocko]

The war started in Ukraine back in 2014. A coup ousted the sitting President and the US helped install a puppet regime. This led to a civil war in Ukraine, long before “Russia invaded”.

Here come the excuses…

Revisionist history. Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. There was no puppet government involved. Russia started the war. If we can’t agree on that there’s nothing left to discuss.

 

[BULLDOG]

I just told you the US supported overthrowing the Ukrainian government using militant actions. You support it.

Is overthrowing sitting President by force acceptable or not? The ethnic Russians protested the illegal insurrection and coup, and for that, Kiev dropped bombs on their heads.

Some say that the US provided political or financial help to opposition groups, but that is not against international law.

 

[theHawk]

Revisionist history. Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. There was no puppet government involved. Russia started the war. If we can’t agree on that there’s nothing left to discuss.

There was no “invasion” of Crimea in 2014.

Crimea has always belonged to Russia. It’s been the headquarters of their Black Sea Fleet since the 1770’s.

Back when Ukraine became a country in the 90’s, Russia agreed at the time for them to have it, so long as they leased it right back to Russia.

After the government was overthrown in 2014, the new Kiev regime immediately reneged on that agreement. So Russia simply annexed it as they were already there for centuries. Even Obama or any other warmongers protested.

Talk about “revisionist history”…

 

[Rocko]

There was no “invasion” of Crimea in 2014.

Crimea has always belonged to Russia. It’s been the headquarters of their Black Sea Fleet since the 1770’s.

Back when Ukraine became a country in the 90’s, Russia agreed at the time for them to have it, so long as they leased it right back to Russia.

After the government was overthrown in 2014, the new Kiev regime immediately reneged on that agreement. So Russia simply annexed it as they were already there for centuries. Even Obama or any other warmongers protested.

Talk about “revisionist history”…

Yeah revisionist history exactly. Putin took Crimea under Obama without firing a shot. Subsequently went on to fully invade Ukraine. There was never a puppet government.

 

[marvin martian]

"What Vladimir Putin doesn’t realize is that if it weren’t for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean REALLY BAD,"

That is trump freely admitting he's been helping Russia all along.

This is what we usually call a "traitor", just in case you guys were wondering.

You people are so fucking dumb.

 

[theHawk]

Yeah revisionist history exactly. Putin took Crimea under Obama without firing a shot. Subsequently went on to fully invade Ukraine. There was never a puppet government.

You’re welcome to fly to Ukraine and join Zelensky’s Rainbow Brigade to fight the Russians and kick them out of Crimea.

But we both know you won’t.

 

[Crepitus]

Afghanistan?

Also the US is NATO. We’ve invaded

Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria
Libya

In recent memory.

Do you want to discuss all the countries we have fomented the over throw their governments? Ukraine is on that list.

Does it hurt to be this stupid?

Those were not NATO actions.

 

[Couchpotato]

Those were not NATO actions.

NATO was in Afghanistan from 03-21 dumb ass

 

[g5000]

"What Vladimir Putin doesn’t realize is that if it weren’t for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean REALLY BAD,"

That is trump freely admitting he's been helping Russia all along.

This is what we usually call a "traitor", just in case you guys were wondering.

I thought the exact same thing when I read that a couple days ago.

I've been warning the cult for years that Trump is madly in love with Putin, and I have pointed out they cannot find a single example of him saying anything critical about Putin, and, in fact, he praised Putin when the mass-murdering KGB thug invaded Ukraine.

This is the same thin-skinned tard who will rage tweet for weeks over a celebrity who has hurt his feelings.


"Vladimir, STOP!"

 

[TimFitz]

What a perfectly maga thing to say. Childish and stupid. A twofer.

And you must remember how Trump held up appropriated aid to Ukraine for months, and how he bullied Johnson et Al into blocking aid that Biden had asked for, for nearly a year.

Of course, by then, Trump had announced his support for Putin and the Russian invasion.

 

[g5000]

Back when Ukraine became a country in the 90’s, Russia agreed at the time for them to have it, so long as they leased it right back to Russia.

Completely untrue.

Are you getting this from Pravda, comrade? RT, perhaps?

 

[g5000]

Libya

In recent memory.

Do you want to discuss all the countries we have fomented the over throw their governments?

I can’t believe what our country is doing. Qaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around, we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage.

You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst. Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before.

Now, ultimately, the people will appreciate it. They're gonna end up taking over the country eventually, but the people will appreciate it, and they should pay us back.

But we have go in to save these lives; these people are being slaughtered like animals. It’s horrible what’s going on; it has to be stopped.

We should do on a humanitarian basis, immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly, very surgically, very effectively, and save the lives.

- Donald J. Trump

 

[g5000]

NATO on Russias doorstep

And you’re asking about unfairly impacted

You vote democrat, right?

You can't give a straight answer, can you. You will have to go back to Putin's ass to get the rest of the answer in your mouth.

Even more hilarious is that two more countries on Russia's doorstep have joined NATO because of Putin's idiotic and illegal invasion of Ukraine.

Is he going to invade Finland and Sweden, too? And kickoff Article V of the NATO treaty?

Biggest military blunder in history.

 

[Couchpotato]

I can’t believe what our country is doing. Qaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around, we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage.

You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst. Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before.

Now, ultimately, the people will appreciate it. They're gonna end up taking over the country eventually, but the people will appreciate it, and they should pay us back.

But we have go in to save these lives; these people are being slaughtered like animals. It’s horrible what’s going on; it has to be stopped.

We should do on a humanitarian basis, immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly, very surgically, very effectively, and save the lives.

- Donald J. Trump

What exactly is this supposed to prove?

 

[g5000]

It's such an uninformed answer! Like debating someone who can't even point to Ukraine on a map!

What's the point?

Russia said peace as long as NATO does not move another inch to the East. They moved east and Russia said Ukraine is the redline

How do you not know this?

Putin doesn't get to tell other sovereign nations what they can and cannot do, dipshit.

 

[g5000]

So if Russia and China wanted to enter into a military alliance with Mexico to stop “US aggression” you don’t think we would invade Mexico about 13 seconds after it was even talked about seriously?

Nope. We wouldn't.

 

[g5000]

You missed the Balkans during the Clinton Presidency, right?

I served in the Balkans during the Clinton presidency. That was a NATO operation to prevent the ongoing genocide.

Your point?

 

[Couchpotato]

Nope. We wouldn't.

Bwahhhhhh. Right. The US would never invade a sovereign nation. Just ask

Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria


Etc.

 

[g5000]

Dictator Zelensky

Wow. You really swallowed that mound of bullshit whole!

When is the last time Russia had a free and fair election, genius?

Not since 1999.

You know Putin even had the Russian constitution rewritten so he could remain dictator, right?

No one is allowed to run opposed to Putin. They get poisoned, murdered, or sent to Siberia if they try.

How is Ukraine supposed to hold elections while civilians are under constant bombardment by a mass murdering war criminal? Enquiring minds want to know.

In fact, the Ukrainian parliament does not certify elections during martial law.

Do Zelensky's critics have a bad habit of falling out of windows to their deaths?

Do they end up poisoned and sent to Siberia to mysteriously die?

Are they tortured FOR A YEAR and then murdered?

Does Zelensky demand a cut from oligarchs, making him possibly the richest man on Earth?

Has he rigged elections and rewritten the Constitution to remain dictator for the past 25 years?

Your level of deep and profound ignorance is EXACTLY what a mass murdering war criminal like Putin depends on. He dines on your weak-mindedness.

Read this link, if you dare:

Suspicious deaths of notable Russians in 2022–2024​

It's both funny and sad how many of war criminal Putin's critics "fell out of a window" since his illegal invasion of Ukraine.

In some cases, he even had their wives and children murdered.

Think about that the next time you hear Trump praise Putin.

Think about the fact Trump has never once said a word of criticism of Putin. And this is a guy who rage-tweets for weeks against minor celebrities who hurt his feelings.


Then try to convince yourself Trump isn't in love with Putin. Try to convince yourself you're not a commie stooge.

You and Trump and all of you useful idiots calling Zelensky a dictator while sucking Putin's cock is as sickening as it gets.

 

[g5000]

When you see someone call ZELENSKY a dictator, then you know they have Putin's fist three feet up their ass.