trump says the quiet part out loud. Again.

Ukrainian Nazis killing Russians in Donbass + Joining NATO + cutting water to Crimea = provocation
NATO is a defensive organization. They are not going to attack or otherwise interact with Russia in any way, other than in a defensive action. How is joining NATO a threat to Russia?
 
You're accusing Trump of treason because he said he's keeping "bad things" from happening to Russia. The same "bad things" Biden must have been keeping from happening. Correct? Cant have it both ways chief. Like I said to the other one. Trump makes you people so fucking stupid.
Feel free to prove Biden did anything of the sort.
 
Feel free to prove Biden did anything of the sort.
If you believe Trump is doing it you have to also believe Biden was too moron. It’s the only logical conclusion otherwise said “bad things” would have happened while Biden was President. This war didn’t start in Jan 2025. Unless your contention is that Biden was too riddled with dementia his entire presidentct to stop anything from happening to anyone.
 
Again, how is NATO a threat to anything other than Russia invading another country?
So if Russia and China wanted to enter into a military alliance with Mexico to stop “US aggression” you don’t think we would invade Mexico about 13 seconds after it was even talked about seriously?
 
If you believe Trump is doing it you have to also believe Biden was too moron. It’s the only logical conclusion otherwise said “bad things” would have happened while Biden was President. This war didn’t start in Jan 2025. Unless your contention is that Biden was too riddled with dementia his entire presidentct to stop anything from happening to anyone.
You'll say anything to praise your cult leader, won't you? Doesn't matter how much you have to stretch to do it.
 
So if Russia and China wanted to enter into a military alliance with Mexico to stop “US aggression” you don’t think we would invade Mexico about 13 seconds after it was even talked about seriously?
You're such a silly little twat, aren't you? When has NATO ever done anything other than defensive actions?
 
Yes, and that you don't understand the answer, well, it's a shame you're allowed to vote
I'll note that you chose to insult me instead of answering a simple question. I thought you had real reasons for your beliefs, other than just spouting MAGA rhetoric.
 
I'll note that you chose to insult me instead of answering a simple question. I thought you had real reasons for your beliefs, other than just spouting MAGA rhetoric.

It's such an uninformed answer! Like debating someone who can't even point to Ukraine on a map!

What's the point?

Russia said peace as long as NATO does not move another inch to the East. They moved east and Russia said Ukraine is the redline

How do you not know this?
 
It's such an uninformed answer! Like debating someone who can't even point to Ukraine on a map!

What's the point?

Russia said peace as long as NATO does not move another inch to the East. They moved east and Russia said Ukraine is the redline

How do you not know this?
Now we are back to my earlier question that no one bothered to answer. How does NATO hurt Russia, other than preventing it from invading other countries?
 
You're such a silly little twat, aren't you? When has NATO ever done anything other than defensive actions?
Afghanistan?

Also the US is NATO. We’ve invaded

Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria
Libya

In recent memory.

Do you want to discuss all the countries we have fomented the over throw their governments? Ukraine is on that list.

Does it hurt to be this stupid?
 
Now we are back to my earlier question that no one bothered to answer. How does NATO hurt Russia, other than preventing it from invading other countries?
Russia views nato as a threat. We don’t get to decide what other countries view as existential threats to their sovereignty. We’ve known Russia has viewed Ukraine entry into NATO as the reddest of red lines. They told us this when Bush was President. The head of NATO bragged that Russia told NATO if they put in writing that Ukraine wouldn’t be admitted to NATO that Russia wouldn’t invade and that he turned them down. Russia was wrong for invading Ukraine but we knowingly played a role in pushing them to it. A major role.
 
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