Trump said we pay for 90% of what NATO gets. Do you believe him?

[Muhammed]

We have the bases and all of the equipment and the people. In their countries. At our expense. We are easily covering 70% of NATO’s security costs.

Maybe it's closer to 70. I doubt it though. I think it is closer to 100% than 70%.

 

[deanrd]

I'd prefer we stick with the 90%. If those European countries gave Trump lip service without attempt to fulfill their financial obligations then we should exit NATO and reduce our defense spending by 90% of NATO's total budget.

That makes no sense. What the F are you talking about?

 

[deanrd]

Goes to show we are spending far too much of our GDP on military expenses that we don't need.

What the President is saying.

Thanks for the support.

Then why did trump and the republicans increase military defending?

Money. Eisenhower wrote to be wary of the military industrial complex. Weapons makers support Republicans who will spend billions on unnecessary equipment which makes them rich. All that money.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending

No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO

Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending

How NATO is funded and who pays what

We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.

So what does the US actually pay?

22%

Yep, 22%, not 90%.

And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.

So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.

It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.

So what's the big deal if we cut back?

 

[fncceo]

Do you believe him?

Invariably

 

[deanrd]

Thread fail. According to polifarce US pays 72%.

And Trump said 70-90% depending on the way you calculate. He was clearly talking about the overall picture... I am sure you would have gotten it had you watched the speech in context.

Basically those nations are relying on USA and we are getting nothing for it. Trump is correct as usual. It would be less comical if they weren't at the same time funding their own invasion.

You didn't even read it,did you. You looked at a chart that showed total spending for each country.

Here, read it again dunce.

No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO

Start here:

Each of the 29 members contribute to those costs through an agreed cost-sharing formula based on the country’s gross domestic product. As the member with the largest GDP, the U.S. contributed 22 percent of NATO’s common funding. Not far behind is Germany with about 15 percent, then France and the United Kingdom with about 10 percent.

 

[fncceo]

Goes to show we are spending far too much of our GDP on military expenses that we don't need.

What the President is saying.

Thanks for the support.

Then why did trump and the republicans increase military defending?

Money. Eisenhower wrote to be wary of the military industrial complex. Weapons makers support Republicans who will spend billions on unnecessary equipment which makes them rich. All that money.

The most expensive weapons programs in history were all instituted by Democrats.

 

[deanrd]

This country has kept itself safe during the last 80 years since WWII because we have been involved around the world. Stopping threats before they materialize.

Now, Republicans, in their total fuking ignorance, want to throw it all that away. The US can't fight the entire world. That's why this country has been involved all around the world.

Our enemy here isn't overseas. It's right here in this country. It starts with the party that supports Russia.

 

[deanrd]

Goes to show we are spending far too much of our GDP on military expenses that we don't need.

What the President is saying.

Thanks for the support.

Then why did trump and the republicans increase military defending?

Money. Eisenhower wrote to be wary of the military industrial complex. Weapons makers support Republicans who will spend billions on unnecessary equipment which makes them rich. All that money.

The most expensive weapons programs in history were all instituted by Democrats.

Good. And they worked.
Democrats believe in oversight. Not just throw away money on weapons.

And if Truman hadn't bombed Japan, we would have lost, minimum a million American Soldiers.

Today's Republicans wouldn't understand. They are more concerned with the gun rights of people shooting up schools than they are for the children in those schools. Course they don't care about soldiers.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending

No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO

Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending

How NATO is funded and who pays what

We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.

So what does the US actually pay?

22%

Yep, 22%, not 90%.

And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.

So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.

It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.

The so called facts are gotten from a "Friend" of the Tampa newpaper who is a Progressive rag that come out of Hillsbough Fla, If you live in the area the New is Bias. My opinion only. You read, You decide.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

SMH

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2018_03/20180315_180315-pr2018-16-en.pdf

 

[JakeStarkey]

"the party that supports Russia" is the GOP of course.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The OP is a fail

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"the party that supports Russia" is the GOP of course.

projecting as usual

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump and the GOP are having Russian problems for sure.

1. OP Senators Balk at Trump’s Call for Russia to Rejoin the G7
   www.weeklystandard.com/jenna-lifhits/gop...
   GOP Senators Balk at Trump’s Call ... Republican senators are starkly rejecting President Donald Trump’s call for Russia to be ... and its support for ...
   
   
2. House Intelligence Committee Democrats blast GOP Russia report
   www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/misleading...
   ... House Intelligence Democrats Slam GOP Russia ... of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. ... media operation in support of Trump, ...
   
   
3. Second GOP senator breaks with Trump on suggesting Russia ...
   thehill.com/...gop...trump-on-suggesting-russia-rejoin-g7
   Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) on Friday became the second Republican senator to break with President Trump for saying that Russia should be invited back into the G-7, an influential group of Western economic powers and Japan.
   

 

[frigidweirdo]

FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending

No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO

Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending

How NATO is funded and who pays what

We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.

So what does the US actually pay?

22%

Yep, 22%, not 90%.

And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.

So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.

It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.

22% which, per capita, is far less than other countries pay.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending

No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO

Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending

How NATO is funded and who pays what

We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.

So what does the US actually pay?

22%

Yep, 22%, not 90%.

And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.

So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.

It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.

22% which, per capita, is far less than other countries pay.

fake news says so

 

[JakeStarkey]

That is an Alt Fact by a far right winger. It is not true. It is a lie. The 22% is accurate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump Still Distorting NATO Spending

By D'Angelo Gore

Posted on July 9, 2018

President Donald Trump continues to wrongly claim that the United States is paying as much as 90 percent of the cost of operating the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

In reality, the U.S. share of the commonly funded NATO budget is currently just over 22 percent, according to the most recent figures from NATO.

Trump Still Distorting NATO Spending - FactCheck.org

 

[LeftofLeft]

FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending

No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO

Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending

How NATO is funded and who pays what

We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.

So what does the US actually pay?

22%

Yep, 22%, not 90%.

And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.

So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.

It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.

I believe that tge US support for NATO and the UN are nothing more than US apologizing for our greatness. What have they done for US?