Trump prepares EO to close down the unconstitutional federal department of education

[WorldWatcher]

I don't doubt that at all. That's because students used to be encouraged to utilize critical thinking, logic, reason and exposure to all manner of concepts and were not told what they were required to think about much of anything. In other words they were actually educated rather than indoctrinated.

But the White House says they only want education to teach reading, math, and writing.

No history, no science and certainly not "critical thinking, logic, reasons and exposure to all manner of concepts...".

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[westwall]

Good, then she will be happy with the elimination of the Dept. Of Education which has been the cause of the failure of public education.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

In other words they were actually educated rather than indoctrinated as MAGA wants the schools to do today.

 

[Lisa558]

In other words they were actually educated rather than indoctrinated as MAGA wants the schools to do today.

OMG, the irony.

 

[johnwk]

The Department of Education (ED) was established by Congress in 1980. The ED's mission is to promote educational excellence and ensure equal access to education for all.

We all know the Dept. of Ed. was established by Congress, but as documented at the top of the thread, Congress has acted beyond its defined and limited powers granted under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1.

 

[johnwk]

DOE was established by Congress, by the Department of Education Organization Act of 1979, which Jimmy Carter signed into law.

Congress is not authorized to assume a subject matter not delegated to Congress by our Constitution, and then tax and spend for it.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Congress is not authorized to assume a subject matter not delegated to Congress by our Constitution, and then tax and spend for it.

That is a long broken argument.

 

[johnwk]

That is a long broken argument.

Our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. Not the bullshit which you post.

 

[Foxfyre]

But the White House says they only want education to teach reading, math, and writing.

No history, no science and certainly not "critical thinking, logic, reasons and exposure to all manner of concepts...".

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Do you really believe the crap you posted here? Those capable of critical thinking easily distinguish between a verbal metaphor and an actual policy statement. The uneducated cannot do that.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Do you really believe the crap you posted here? Those capable of critical thinking easily distinguish between a verbal metaphor and an actual policy statement. The uneducated cannot do that.

Oh, I'm well educated.

I just like showing the stupid shit that people say and why the rubes believe them. Such as having a White House Official saying that schools should only teach reading, writing, and math.

LOL

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[Lisa558]

Congress is not authorized to assume a subject matter not delegated to Congress by our Constitution, and then tax and spend for it.

…. And try to hide that from taxpayers.

 

[Foxfyre]

Oh, I'm well educated.

I just like showing the stupid shit that people say and why the rubes believe them. Such as having a White House Official saying that schools should only teach reading, writing, and math.

LOL

WW

"Reading, writing, arithmetic" is not stupid. It is a well-established metaphor for 'the basics" which of course would include science, history, geography, the arts, all of it. It does not include things like CRT or sexually explicit curriculum, we're all going to die or at least suffer because of climate change, or all the nonsense and harmful indoctrination pushed by the left.

The educated know that. I'll give you benefit of the doubt that you were using satire instead of criticizing the statement itself. Perhaps you could clarify?

 

[Foxfyre]

Trump should also close down the unconstitutional National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities.​

Are we to forget how both have openly participated in indoctrination, propaganda, and use of tax dollars to display sexual deviant behavior such as Andres Serrano's anti-Christian bigotry called "P*** Christ"; Robert Mapplethorpe’s homosexual display called “The Perfect Moment”; Annie Sprinkle’s pornographic performances at a New York theater; Karen Finley, “the nude, chocolate smeared women”; Kyle Abraham’s “The Watershed and When the Wolves Came In” focusing on sexual identity; a 2016 festival for sexual deviant singing groups who appeared in a “flash mob” in Denver; taxpayer financing for a sexual deviant festival in San Francisco; funding for the Feminist Press at the City University of New York to digitize classic LGBT titles; an open mic group in D.C for story telling about “Queer Culture in America"; and the latest venomous and hateful smut on display financed by tax revenue being Shakespeare In Central Park depicting the violent murder of President Trump.

Our Founders were absolutely correct to limit Congress’ power to “… securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries”​

Yup. That would save us at least I think $180 million per year.

 

[Lisa558]

Yup. That would save us at least I think $180 million per year.

That’s been a problem for at least 30 years.

 

[Foxfyre]

This should save us a ton of money. I mean Elon and Trump and Besos.

I doubt Elon, Trump and Bezos need to save any money personally but I am cheering them on trying to save all of us taxpayers billions and trillions of $. Elon and Bezos receive no compensation for whatever their efforts and I doubt President Trump is keeping his presidential salary either. He donated it all back to the government in his first term.

 

[Foxfyre]

Closing the Dept. of Education requires Congressional Action. Its a Department put in place and funded via law.

But he can certainly scale it back to a shell of itself and leave it up to Congress whether to abolish it.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

White House preparing executive order to abolish the Education Department

President Donald Trump promised for years to abolish the department — which he can't do without congressional approval.

www.nbcnews.com

The truth is, there is no provision listed beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, [Congress’s power to lay and collect taxes] allowing for a federal “Department of Education”


In fact, prior to the adoption of our existing Constitution, the People of Maryland delegated the power for a state funded and regulated educational system to their state elected officials, and not to a national governing power --- the wording being as follows:



“The General Assembly, at its First Session after the adoption of this Constitution, shall by Law establish throughout the State a thorough and efficient System of Free Public Schools; and shall provide by taxation, or otherwise, for their maintenance.”


The Maryland Constitutional also states, in emphatic terms:

“the People of this State have the sole and exclusive right of regulating the internal government and police thereof, as a free, sovereign and independent State.”


In fact, under Art. 3 of Maryland’s Constitution, the command is for local regulation and funding of education as opposed to a federally funded and regulated public school system!

The Maryland Constitution also states:


“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution thereof, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people thereof.”

This very provision of Maryland’s Declaration of Rights is also agreed to by the People of the United States by their ratification of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States!

Now, with respect to our federal Constitution and its delegated powers, upon researching the record of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, we find Delegate Charles Pickney, on August 18th, proposed a broad power "To establish seminaries for the promotion of literature and the arts and sciences", but this proposal was rejected by the Convention in favor of a limited grant of power expressed in Article 1, Section 8, Cl.8, of the proposed constitution. The limited power, later agreed upon by ratification of our Constitution authorizes Congress "[t]o promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts” and what is authorized to accomplish this? by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."

The fact is, the federal Department of Education and its current functions are in defiance of the defined and limited powers granted to Congress. And every time a member of Congress votes to fund this agency they are committing a fraud upon the people of the United States and are usurping a power not granted!

So, why are members of Congress funding this rouge agency?

Same reason as always. Votes.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I feel a disturbance on the force, it's like the employees of education consulting firms cried out at once, and were suddenly silenced.

Excellent Star Wars reference.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Oh, I'm well educated.

I just like showing the stupid shit that people say and why the rubes believe them. Such as having a White House Official saying that schools should only teach reading, writing, and math.

LOL

WW

You show everyone a lot of stupid shit.

 

[WorldWatcher]

You show everyone a lot of stupid shit.

That's because I hold a mirror up to stupid people and they don't like what they see in themselves.

So they feel compelled to strike out.

WW