Trump pardons Michael Flynn..................

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Fake News. Flynn was never found guilty by a trier of fact and the DOJ has admitted that they not only never had sufficient evidence to convict him of a crime, that they never had enough evidence to even investigate him, much less ambush interview him at the suggestion of illegitimate Joe during the transition.

You guys lose again!
Flynn plead guilty, not once, but twice. He allocuted to his guilty to a federal judge, who by beyond reasonable doubt, based on the evidence Flynn presented to the court, accepted Flynns plea and rendered his guilty judgement.
You just conceded the point that the facts were never tried in a court of law, thank you. The Guilty verdict that he was coerced into was withdrawn. After a thorough investigation by the US Attorney, the DOJ, the only party in the case with prosecutorial power has admitted that not only do they have sufficient evidence for a guilty verdict, but that they never had sufficient evidence for the ambush interview.

Explosive Revelations in the Flynn Case

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New documents show that Flynn ‘was set up by corrupt agents’ who threatened Flynn’s son and made a secret deal with Flynn’s attorneys.

‘Why was the FBI investigating Transition Team Member General Flynn?” That is a question that was immediately posed when the Corrupt Obama/Biden's vile attack on the Trump Transition Team was first revealed to the American People.

There was never a good answer to that question. That has always been a big problem for the current and former government officials whose actions in the blatantly politicized probes of the Trump campaign and its surrogates are currently under investigation by the Justice Department.

That question and the lack of a satisfactory answer are likewise at the root of stunning disclosures the Justice Department has just made to Flynn and his legal team.

Last April the DOJ provided some so-called Brady material — i.e., exculpatory information that prosecutors are required by law to reveal to defendants they have charged with crimes — that Flynn’s lead lawyer, Sidney Powell, has been demanding for months.

The information is still not public because it has been produced under a court order that keeps it under wraps, at least for now.

Court filings argue that the new information “proves Mr. Flynn’s allegations of having been deliberately set up and framed by corrupt agents.” The evidence
defeats any argument that the interview of Mr. Flynn on January 24, 2017, was material to any “investigation.” The government has deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution — knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.
There was no good-faith basis for an investigation of General Flynn. Under federal law, a false statement made to investigators is not actionable unless it is material. That means it must be pertinent to a matter that is properly under investigation. If the FBI did not have a legitimate investigative basis to interview Flynn, then that fact should have been disclosed as exculpatory information. It would have enabled his counsel to argue that any inaccurate statements he made were immaterial.

Flynn — though he did not believe he was guilty (and though the agents who interviewed him also did not believe he had intentionally misled them) — nevertheless pled guilty to false-statements charges because prosecutors from Dirty Bob Mueller’s staff threatened him. Specifically, Flynn was warned that, if he refused to plead guilty, prosecutors would charge his son with a felony for failing to register with the Justice Department as a foreign agent. Such a so-called FARA violation (Foreign Agent Registration Act) is a crime that the DOJ almost never charged before the Dirty Bob Mueller investigation, and it had dubious application to Flynn’s son (who worked for Flynn’s private-intelligence firm).

Dirty Bob Mueller’s prosecutors — specifically Brandon Van Grack, who now runs Justice’s FARA unit — did indeed promise Flynn that they would not charge his son if Flynn pled guilty. Worse, the prosecutors coerced Flynn and his counsel to keep this agreement secret. That is, this was to be a side deal that would not be written into the plea agreement and therefore would be kept from the court and the public.

Under federal law, all understandings that are relevant to a guilty plea must be disclosed to the judge. It would be not merely a serious ethical breach for government lawyers to fail to reveal such an arrangement. It would be a fraud on the court.

Which is nothing new for these dirty corrupt bastards that were part of the Witch Hunt. What vile immoral losers. May God be merciful on them.
 

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WE THE PEOPLE- at least 80,000,000 million Americans , know that he is not guilty.
Apparently Michael Flynn, who pled guilty twice, is not among them. :auiqs.jpg:
Not just Flynn, but Trump also thinks Flynn was guilty as charged.
Fake News. There was no good-faith basis for an investigation of General Flynn. Under federal law, a false statement made to investigators is not actionable unless it is material. That means it must be pertinent to a matter that is properly under investigation. If the FBI did not have a legitimate investigative basis to interview Flynn, then any inaccurate statements he made were immaterial.

You know it,
I know it,
The American People know it.
 

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Yes and the traitor Trump fired him and then gave him a pardon??
He doesn't belong in jail.
Then Trump should have given him a commutation. Which like with Roger Stone would allow Flynn to exonerate himself.


The president’s clemency power allows him to commute any federal sentence as well as to grant pardons. Because Trump is not fully pardoning Stone, he can proceed with an appeal of his conviction that could allow him to clear his name

Trump pardoned Flynn, because Trump thought Flynn was guilty as charged, and could not prevail to overturn his conviction/.
Trump should do everything he can do until he leaves office to make the left upset.
 

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Remember, most pardons are issued long after any question of guilt or innocence is a forgone conclusion. Usually the person has exhausted all their appeals. They serve out their sentence in prison, and years after having done their time, ask for a pardon to restore their civil rights.

Pardoning people in the middle of their legal battles is the exception to the rule, and not done through the DOJ, who is the official route pardons originate through.

Learn the facts then comment

THE FBI HANDLING OF THE MICHAEL FLYNN CASE IS DISTURBING
 

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WE THE PEOPLE- at least 80,000,000 million Americans , know that he is not guilty.
Apparently Michael Flynn, who pled guilty twice, is not among them. :auiqs.jpg:
Not just Flynn, but Trump also thinks Flynn was guilty as charged.
Fake News. There was no good-faith basis for an investigation of General Flynn. Under federal law, a false statement made to investigators is not actionable unless it is material. That means it must be pertinent to a matter that is properly under investigation. If the FBI did not have a legitimate investigative basis to interview Flynn, then any inaccurate statements he made were immaterial.

You know it,
I know it,
The American People know it.
That's why the prosecution withdrew their case. The communists keep pretending that there is still a case to prosecute. There isn't. There is only the private vendetta of a black judge.
 

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Instead the facts are what determine guilty or innocence, and the facts shows that Flynn lied.
Fake news.

Produce a copy of the transcript of the call.
Produce a copy of the transcript of the interview.

You guys lost again!
Flynn made those same arguments. He knew they had the goods on him, and he plead guilty to a single felony count in exchange for his cooperation, to save his ass from the host of other felonies he could be charged with.
Fake News. There was no good-faith basis for an investigation of General Flynn. The FBI did not have a legitimate investigative basis to interview Flynn and they don't now. You can't come up with a single legitimate basis to investigate Flynn, and now you are making up "all these other felony" charges that are figments of your imagination.

Flynn's guilty plea was induced by blatantly illegal prosecutorial misconduct. Flynn was originally represented by the very politically connected Washington firm of Covington & Burling. The firm counseled Flynn on his FARA submissions, filing the FARA documents with the DOJ on his behalf; and they also represented him in his plea negotiations with Dirty Bob Mueller’s staff, which involved the integrity of these same FARA filings. That’s a conflict of interest. Now comes the prosecutors fraud on the court with the concealed deal not to prosecute Flynn’s son. Covington’s corrupt lawyers colluded with corrupt government lawyers to make the illicit deal and conceal it from the court, raising very serious legal and ethical issues.

The remedy for being bullied into a guilty plea is for the defendant to withdraw his plea and fight the charges. In Flynn’s case the DOJ has already stated that they do not have the evidence necessary to convict Flynn and that he never should have been investigated or charged with any crimes.

The serial outrages in the baseless investigation of General Flynn, a decorated combat commander were deeply wrong if not illegal.
 

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I am very glad that President Trump has pardoned the general.

I am especially pleased that his action has upset Nancy & Chuck.
I marvel at the class Flynn has shown through this terrible prosecution and the gratitude with which he has accepted justice finally delivered by the President's constitutional authority to be the final bulwark against a corrupt government.

Besides confirming that there was no appropriate basis for investigating Flynn in the first place, Investigating US Attorney Jensen uncovered significant improprieties in the corrupt FBI’s interview of Flynn, including the still unexplained departures from FBI procedures in the writing and editing of the report of Flynn’s interview (the so-called FBI 302 form).

Disclosures also showed that FBI Director Corrupt Comey had discussed Flynn’s case at a White House meeting on January 5, 2017, which featured the highest-echelon political and law-enforcement officials of the Obama administration: President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, National Security Adviser Susan Rice, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.

Notes from the meeting suggest that the possibility of prosecuting Flynn under the Logan Act — a likely unconstitutional provision that has never been charged in the 150-year history of the Justice Department — was discussed.

The improprieties surrounding Flynn’s investigation led the Justice Department to move to dismiss the Flynn case. This decision, however, crashed into a foible of federal law. Although the Constitution gives the executive branch unfettered discretion over prosecutorial decisions, including which cases to abandon, the federal rule governing dismissal purports to require the prosecutor to obtain “leave of the court.”

This mandate was inserted primarily to protect defendants from prosecutorial abuse (for example, dismissing a case that is going badly, so that it can be re-charged at a later, more opportune time). It does not apply when a defendant concurs in the Justice Department’s dismissal motion because the case is being dismissed with finality.

Vile Hater Judge Sullivan, however, resorted to this quirk in the rule to refuse to act on the dismissal motion. Despite the Justice Department’s thorough explanation for its decision (which it is not required to give in such detail), the vile hate-filled judge intimated that motion to dismiss Flynn’s case was a corrupt deal.

Vile Hater Sullivan even retained a former federal judge and unabashed Trump critic, John Gleeson, as a friend of the court for the purpose of developing a legal theory that Vile Hater Sullivan had lawful authority to sentence Flynn — notwithstanding that the only legitimate prosecutorial authority, the Justice Department, wanted the case dropped.

And, sadly, the Distinguished Jurist, His Honor Mr. Sullivan, is untouchable (for obvious reasons).
 

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I am very glad that President Trump has pardoned the general.

I am especially pleased that his action has upset Nancy & Chuck.
I marvel at the class Flynn has shown through this terrible prosecution and the gratitude with which he has accepted justice finally delivered by the President's constitutional authority to be the final bulwark against a corrupt government.

Besides confirming that there was no appropriate basis for investigating Flynn in the first place, Investigating US Attorney Jensen uncovered significant improprieties in the corrupt FBI’s interview of Flynn, including the still unexplained departures from FBI procedures in the writing and editing of the report of Flynn’s interview (the so-called FBI 302 form).

Disclosures also showed that FBI Director Corrupt Comey had discussed Flynn’s case at a White House meeting on January 5, 2017, which featured the highest-echelon political and law-enforcement officials of the Obama administration: President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, National Security Adviser Susan Rice, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.

Notes from the meeting suggest that the possibility of prosecuting Flynn under the Logan Act — a likely unconstitutional provision that has never been charged in the 150-year history of the Justice Department — was discussed.

The improprieties surrounding Flynn’s investigation led the Justice Department to move to dismiss the Flynn case. This decision, however, crashed into a foible of federal law. Although the Constitution gives the executive branch unfettered discretion over prosecutorial decisions, including which cases to abandon, the federal rule governing dismissal purports to require the prosecutor to obtain “leave of the court.”

This mandate was inserted primarily to protect defendants from prosecutorial abuse (for example, dismissing a case that is going badly, so that it can be re-charged at a later, more opportune time). It does not apply when a defendant concurs in the Justice Department’s dismissal motion because the case is being dismissed with finality.

Vile Hater Judge Sullivan, however, resorted to this quirk in the rule to refuse to act on the dismissal motion. Despite the Justice Department’s thorough explanation for its decision (which it is not required to give in such detail), the vile hate-filled judge intimated that motion to dismiss Flynn’s case was a corrupt deal.

Vile Hater Sullivan even retained a former federal judge and unabashed Trump critic, John Gleeson, as a friend of the court for the purpose of developing a legal theory that Vile Hater Sullivan had lawful authority to sentence Flynn — notwithstanding that the only legitimate prosecutorial authority, the Justice Department, wanted the case dropped.

And, sadly, the Distinguished Jurist, His Honor Mr. Sullivan, is untouchable (for obvious reasons).
It's because his fellow judges covered from him.
 

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Many Democrats are confusing their party with the USA. The USA is not a political party.
 
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Many Democrats are confusing their party with the USA. The USA is not a political party.
Actually, it's the conservatives who are saying that they are the USA and anyone who isn't with them are traitors. Ever read anything on USMB? There are LOTS of conservatives who are calling for the Dems to be locked up, deported, or even executed.

Incidentally, the only reason I started this thread is because I thought that it was interesting news, and was breaking as I typed it. I haven't posted for most of this thread, because I wanted to see what it would bring, and it's over 20 pages of crap in defense of Flynn and Trump. Me? I think that Flynn should be serving a sentence, and Trump pardoning him just shows how corrupt and craven Trump really is. He's even considering a pardon for others in his group who have already been convicted. I can only hope that Trump is gone before he can do more damage to the government of this country.
 

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I am very glad that President Trump has pardoned the general.

I am especially pleased that his action has upset Nancy & Chuck.
I marvel at the class Flynn has shown through this terrible prosecution and the gratitude with which he has accepted justice finally delivered by the President's constitutional authority to be the final bulwark against a corrupt government.

Besides confirming that there was no appropriate basis for investigating Flynn in the first place, Investigating US Attorney Jensen uncovered significant improprieties in the corrupt FBI’s interview of Flynn, including the still unexplained departures from FBI procedures in the writing and editing of the report of Flynn’s interview (the so-called FBI 302 form).

Disclosures also showed that FBI Director Corrupt Comey had discussed Flynn’s case at a White House meeting on January 5, 2017, which featured the highest-echelon political and law-enforcement officials of the Obama administration: President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, National Security Adviser Susan Rice, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.

Notes from the meeting suggest that the possibility of prosecuting Flynn under the Logan Act — a likely unconstitutional provision that has never been charged in the 150-year history of the Justice Department — was discussed.

The improprieties surrounding Flynn’s investigation led the Justice Department to move to dismiss the Flynn case. This decision, however, crashed into a foible of federal law. Although the Constitution gives the executive branch unfettered discretion over prosecutorial decisions, including which cases to abandon, the federal rule governing dismissal purports to require the prosecutor to obtain “leave of the court.”

This mandate was inserted primarily to protect defendants from prosecutorial abuse (for example, dismissing a case that is going badly, so that it can be re-charged at a later, more opportune time). It does not apply when a defendant concurs in the Justice Department’s dismissal motion because the case is being dismissed with finality.

Vile Hater Judge Sullivan, however, resorted to this quirk in the rule to refuse to act on the dismissal motion. Despite the Justice Department’s thorough explanation for its decision (which it is not required to give in such detail), the vile hate-filled judge intimated that motion to dismiss Flynn’s case was a corrupt deal.

Vile Hater Sullivan even retained a former federal judge and unabashed Trump critic, John Gleeson, as a friend of the court for the purpose of developing a legal theory that Vile Hater Sullivan had lawful authority to sentence Flynn — notwithstanding that the only legitimate prosecutorial authority, the Justice Department, wanted the case dropped.

And, sadly, the Distinguished Jurist, His Honor Mr. Sullivan, is untouchable (for obvious reasons).
Yeah, that was atrocious that he let Flynn perjure himself in his courtroom and didn't throw him jail immediately.
 

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Remember, most pardons are issued long after any question of guilt or innocence is a forgone conclusion. Usually the person has exhausted all their appeals. They serve out their sentence in prison, and years after having done their time, ask for a pardon to restore their civil rights.

Pardoning people in the middle of their legal battles is the exception to the rule, and not done through the DOJ, who is the official route pardons originate through.

Learn the facts then comment

THE FBI HANDLING OF THE MICHAEL FLYNN CASE IS DISTURBING
The FBI is completely corrupt.

Carter Page Sues Comey, DOJ And Others For $75 Million Over Crossfire Hurricane Abuse

An expensive loyalty?

Former 2016 Trump Campaign aide Carter Page has filed an eight-count complaint against the Department of Justice, the FBI, former FBI Director Corrupt James Comey and others.


Filed in the DC District Court, Page seeks at least $75 million in damages over, amongst other things, obtaining four illegal Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants against him.

More via The Federalist's Margot Cleveland:
Page’s 59-page complaint lists as defendants a veritable “Who’s Who” of the SpyGate scandal, including former FBI Director James Comey, Assistant Director Andrew McCabe, and the disgraced team of Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. Also singled out were Kevin Clinessmith, who earlier this year pleaded guilty to falsifying an email to hide Page’s past service as a source to the CIA, and FBI Agents Joe Pientka, Stephen Somma, and Brian Auten, with additional defendants identified merely as John Doe 1 – 10 and Jane Doe 1 – 10.
Forgery
The first four counts of his complaint allege claims under FISA, with one count seeking damages for each of the four FISA court orders the defendants obtained against Page. FISA provides a private right of action to allow “an aggrieved person. . . who has been subjected to an electronic surveillance or about whom information obtained by electronic surveillance of such person has been disclosed,” to sue those responsible.
While Page's attorneys are filing a civil claim under FISA, the filing notes that the same act makes it a criminal offense to illegally "engage in electronic surveillance under color of law."

Page also claims that the United States government is responsible for civil wrongs "in the same manner and to the same extent as a private individual under like circumstances," a Federal tort claim which allows Page to sue the government for wrongful conduct, as if it were a private person.

Meanwhile Page alleges a Bivens claim, named after a Supreme Court case in which a plaintiff was determined to be entitled to damages from the individual government actors responsible for violating their Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure - "which describes precisely what the Crossfire Hurricane team did in submitting the four false and misleading FISA applications to the FISA court."

Lastly, Page seeks justice in a pair of complaints under the federal Privacy Act - the first of which seeks to force the DOJ to update his "individual records," and the second which seeks an injunction to force the government to do so - as he says "he was falsely portrayed as a traitor to his country."
 

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Just heard this on the news. Trump said he was thinking about it, and now he's gone and done it. Flynn has just received a full pardon from Trump.


He just tweeted that he granted Flynn a full pardon a few minutes ago.
Works for me, about time he received some real justice and not being railroaded
 

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Just heard this on the news. Trump said he was thinking about it, and now he's gone and done it. Flynn has just received a full pardon from Trump.


He just tweeted that he granted Flynn a full pardon a few minutes ago.
Works for me, about time he received some real justice and not being railroaded
So he IS going to jail for perjury, now?
 

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Just heard this on the news. Trump said he was thinking about it, and now he's gone and done it. Flynn has just received a full pardon from Trump.


He just tweeted that he granted Flynn a full pardon a few minutes ago.
Works for me, about time he received some real justice and not being railroaded
So he IS going to jail for perjury, now?
For what, purjury? No. He wasn't even afforded due process. It was a set up and the evidence proves it.
 

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