Trump orders homeless evictions in DC

[Mac-7]

Really? I am sure you can prove that addiction is based on a political party. You are aware that alcohol is a drug that is abused more than any other drug and has been for centuries, even before the Democrats existed in the USA?

I never said that

Dont try to send me down one of your rabbit holes

 

[1srelluc]

Sundown town?

 

[Delldude]

CNN?

 

[toobfreak]

Because the primary reason we have homeless people living on the streets is drug addiction and/or mental health issues
They need to be locked up and forced to confront their personal problems before real change takes place

• How is locking up the mentally-ill better than their living on the street? Never mind the huge cost of doing that, now housing and feeding these people.
• How will you make mentally-ill people confront their problems?
• Will homeless be able to get Pepsi, soft drinks and desert in prison? But honest, legitimate sick and disabled people on SNAP cannot? Oops.

My opinion is that the government is traditionally inept in helping people, much less the mentally ill. There will be a HUGE cost in housing these people, feeding them, clothing them, healthcare, rehabilitating them to get back on their feet to work some minimal job then 2 years later, end back up on the street right where they started.

Oops--- there goes all that money you just saved depriving the handicapped and disabled of cola, snacks and desert.

 

[initforme]

There are shelters... but shelters have rules... like no drugs or booze so the addicted remain on the streets voluntarily... they should be arrested and sent to treatment centers for as long as it takes for them to clean up and be drug free...

Agreed. Those treatment centrrs should be fully funded with an oveosd of experts making top flight wages plus full benefits to help those people. Its a demanding job.

 

[Mac-7]

• How is locking up the mentally-ill better than their living on the street? Never mind the huge cost of doing that, now housing and feeding these people.
• How will you make mentally-ill people confront their problems?
• Will homeless be able to get Pepsi, soft drinks and desert in prison? But honest, legitimate sick and disabled people on SNAP cannot? Oops.

My opinion is that the government is traditionally inept in helping people, much less the mentally ill. There will be a HUGE cost in housing these people, feeding them, clothing them, healthcare, rehabilitating them to get back on their feet to work some minimal job then 2 years later, end back up on the street right where they started.

Oops--- there goes all that money you just saved depriving the handicapped and disabled of cola, snacks and desert.

My opinion is that the government is traditionally inept in helping people, much less the mentally ill.

I’ll settle for just helping the rest of us by taking these bums off the streets

Anything after that is a bonus

 

[BackAgain]

you can run but you can't hide.

Or, of course, as I’ve been doing, neither one of those false dichotomy choices.

Just admit I exposed your canard and **** off. You’re an assclown. But you aren’t at all persuasive. Ever.

 

[toobfreak]

I’ll settle for just helping the rest of us by taking these bums off the streets

First the government CREATES these people by providing no opportunity for them, then when it gets too big, just sweep them under the rug out of your sight so you don't see it?

Some of these people are just mentally ill, some born that way, others driven that way through a bullshit world that offers them no option for a better life, many of them end up on drugs as the only means they can find to cope.

So in some cases, it is 50/50% both their and the government's doing, in others, it could be 90/10 their fault or 10/90% the government's fault. It will vary with the individual.

The time to get these people off the street was long long ago before they ever got onto the street. I predict this will be a HUGE cost that will largely fail and sadly, these people, now treated as the problem, are really just the SYMPTOM of the problem.

But for a year or two, no one will notice or care because they will no longer see it. But they will be able to get free cola and deserts denied the disabled and handicapped. Nice.

Maybe the solution is to put all these people in FEMA camps and work on helping them, but then, half the people in government are crazy, the other half are inept, with maybe 1% actually competent trying to do the right things.

Maybe once off the street, these homeless people can be given all the soda and snacks and stuff denied innocent people on SNAP.

 

[Mac-7]

First the government CREATES these people by providing no opportunity for them, then when it gets too big, just sweep them under the rug out of your sight so you don't see it?

Thats bleeding heart lib nonsense

The opportunity is there for anyone that wants it

All these people want is their next fix

 

[Delldude]

All these people want is their next fix.

Just remember what David Crosby said about getting that next fix.....he said:

'I didn't wake up one morning and say I wanna be a junkie'.

 

[toobfreak]

Thats bleeding heart lib nonsense
The opportunity is there for anyone that wants it
All these people want is their next fix

In some cases, you are probably right. But if opportunity is there, then why are there so many young college grads who cannot afford homes or find jobs? And if they can't what chance or kind of job will a homeless person with issues have?

Bleeding heart? I don't think so. I'm anything but a liberal. Most people consider me ruthless. But in an ordered, efficient society, it is government's place to balance jobs and opportunity with population. Just wait until all the millions of white collar workers with degrees start losing their jobs to AI and can't find nothing but blue collar work, if they are lucky.

Unfortunately, we are centuries from having so ordered a society. Many of these homeless people are merely folks who have been made the refuse of a dysfunctional society having now fallen through the cracks and only gotten anyone's notice because they are now under people's feet.

 

[jknowgood]

Trump shows what a great Christian he is, along with the OP....

How many homeless you got living in your lawn?

 

[toobfreak]

How many homeless you got living in your lawn?

Are you kidding? Moonglow probably is a homeless living on someone else's lawn right now texting on his cellphone while living on their patio eating vegetable stolen out of their garden.

 

[MayorQuimby]

First the government CREATES these people by providing no opportunity for them,

False. It is not such that anytime something goes wrong, it's the government's fault.

Some people are born with a mental illness. This is not the government's fault. Sometimes, people are driven to insanity (and the like) by circumstances, which, again, is not the government's fault.

I am not saying governments are perfect, they aren't, but we the people should get rid of the notion that any time something goes wrong, and we are angry, but we can't identify the real cause, so we take it out on the government. This is not right.

then when it gets too big, just sweep them under the rug out of your sight so you don't see it?

I don't see it as sweeping them under the rug. By putting them away in hotels (or the similar. In my country we have something called single room occupancy, where we provide rooms for people who have drug addictions or mental illness. They are not exactly hotels, but they do provide real housing for these people), we are actually putting a roof over their heads, keeping them off the streets and out of the elements. These are good things, not bad things. Also, by keeping these people off the streets, we also minimize the possibility that some of them might turn violent and attack normal people. So, I don't see it as a bad thing.

Some of these people are just mentally ill, some born that way, others driven that way through a bullshit world that offers them no option for a better life, many of them end up on drugs as the only means they can find to cope.

So in some cases, it is 50/50% both their and the government's doing, in others, it could be 90/10 their fault or 10/90% the government's fault. It will vary with the individual.

The time to get these people off the street was long long ago before they ever got onto the street. I predict this will be a HUGE cost that will largely fail and sadly, these people, now treated as the problem, are really just the SYMPTOM of the problem.

So what do you think is the problem?

But for a year or two, no one will notice or care because they will no longer see it. But they will be able to get free cola and deserts denied the disabled and handicapped. Nice.

I am not sure what you are so bitter about. To me, giving them free cola and deserts is better than not giving them cola and deserts.

Maybe the solution is to put all these people in FEMA camps and work on helping them, but then, half the people in government are crazy, the other half are inept, with maybe 1% actually competent trying to do the right things.

Again, I agree with you that the government is inept and/or crazy. But I fail to see how crying about it online does anything to solve it.

Maybe once off the street, these homeless people can be given all the soda and snacks and stuff denied innocent people on SNAP.

You shouldn't get sarcastic. It doesn't help and it actually obscures your point a bit. All I could tell is that you are bitter and sarcastic, I actually wasn't sure what your real point was.

 

[Rambunctious]

Agreed. Those treatment centrrs should be fully funded with an oveosd of experts making top flight wages plus full benefits to help those people. Its a demanding job.

Private companies can be created... for profit hospitals and outpatient clinics....

 

[Lisa558]

Private companies can be created... for profit hospitals and outpatient clinics....

Where’s the money going to come from?

 

[initforme]

Private companies can be created... for profit hospitals and outpatient clinics....

Nope. The workers should get a pension for doing that work. Privatizing wont do that

 

[Moonglow]

How many homeless you got living in your lawn?

No one is short enough to live in a lawn.

 

[jknowgood]

No one is short enough to live in a lawn.

Of course none, because you're a hypocrite.

 

[Moonglow]

Of course none, because you're a hypocrite.

Who lives in yer lawn, an entire city block?