Trump offers peace plan for Ukraine war

[sealybobo]

Factually I really don't care about what this present US administration states or comments on.

It's been obvious for years, that they simply want to destroy everyone who isn't on their payroll and doesn't share their absurd neanderthal like convictions. It's simply not worth giving any serious thoughts, onto what some KKK member and Grand Wizard proposes or envisions.

Luckily they make it very easy for anyone else and countries to get prepared for these continued mentally retarded onslaughts that don't even behold any consistent policy nor any concerted political approach, and are carried out by mental midgets - see Trumps cabinet picks.

Aside from Trump and his sheep causing worldwide opposition (even from Israel, once his Gaza property stint fails) - The real problem is and remains solely a US internal matter, that needs to be faced, solved and/or endured solely by Americans.

Some 12 month ago, I was still smiling/amused about the idea, that a "United" States of America might break up - but in the meantime I am rather convinced.

As such Ukraine and a Putin-Russia will eventually become a European and China matter.

1. Like I said before. If it's happening here, it's coming to you soon. If it hasn't already happened. Before our election we found that almost every incumbent in every country lost the last election because of inflation. That tells me that voters are stupid in every country. Germany is no different. And you have proven that in the past.

2. I think it's funny you don't think it can happen in Germany, when IT'S HAPPENING NOW! You'll see.

3. Remember, our worst states like Mississippi are doing better than Germany economically.

 

[Deadstick]

Those who invade a peaceful neighbor deserve to be killed

What about those who wage a war of annihilation on their own citizens?

 

[Ringo]

Finnish President Stubb has proposed a three-stage plan for a settlement in Ukraine, where Finland goes **** itself in the first stage.

 

[Deadstick]

Finnish President Stubb has proposed a three-stage plan for a settlement in Ukraine, where Finland goes **** itself in the first stage.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Kruska]

2. I think it's funny you don't think it can happen in Germany, when IT'S HAPPENING NOW! You'll see.

That an AfD becomes the strongest party in Germany - can't be a 100% refuted. Neither that they might reach e.g. 27% and as such the conservative party CDU/CSU willing to enter a coalition with them.

The difference is that the AfD only beholds around 15% of Nazi scumbags - whilst MAGA's are loaded with these kind of people.
Therefore the majority? of Germans is factually hoping for the AfD to "wake up" the established parties and their 40 years of failed policies. In other words to make the AfD acceptable to the general public and as such gaining the voters of the common sense people - once this is reached, the conservative party CDU/CSU will reform, and the AfD becomes a side show.

Anyway once the greens & Lefty/Libs are voted out - aka can't enforce any laws anymore via a coalition upon Feb. 23rd - the goal to change Germany's future prospects is already achieved.

 

[sealybobo]

That an AfD becomes the strongest party in Germany - can't be a 100% refuted. Neither that they might reach e.g. 27% and as such the conservative party CDU/CSU willing to enter a coalition with them.

The difference is that the AfD only beholds around 15% of Nazi scumbags - whilst MAGA's are loaded with these kind of people.
Therefore the majority? of Germans is factually hoping for the AfD to "wake up" the established parties and their 40 years of failed policies. In other words to make the AfD acceptable to the general public and as such gaining the voters of the common sense people - once this is reached, the conservative party CDU/CSU will reform, and the AfD becomes a side show.

Anyway once the greens & Lefty/Libs are voted out - aka can't enforce any laws anymore via a coalition upon Feb. 23rd - the goal to change Germany's future prospects is already achieved.

No, actually MAGA is only about 15% racists. You are wrong about that. Most of them just want the fraud, waste and abuse to end. Lots of blacks, gays, Hispanics, Muslims and women vote for MAGA. Calling them racist only pisses them off.

Remember a lot of Germans in 1943 didn't know Jews were being marched into ovens. So they were the regular Nazis or today, MAGA. And Trump's not going to go down the racist path. Do you ever consider that people like Trump think Hitler was brilliant but he just went too far. He was right, but he also shouldn't have done some of the things he did. If he didn't do those things, who knows. Maybe the Brits and French would be speaking German today.

If the rich are taking over America, they are taking over Germany too. They aren't the last holdout. I promise you that.

 

[Ringo]

Remember a lot of Germans in 1943 didn't know Jews were being marched into ovens.

Maybe, but sons, fathers, brothers and sisters of this lot knew it perfecly well.

 

[Zavulon]

Those who invade a peaceful neighbor deserve to be killed

And this is exactly why Kievan regime should be eliminated, and NATO, at least, pushed back.

 

[sealybobo]

Maybe, but sons, fathers, brothers and sisters of this lot knew it perfecly well.

By then it was too late to do anything about it.

It's funny. I used to look down on Germans whenever I saw them because they fell for Hitler. Know I know it can happen here.

And Trump doesn't have to try to exterminate Jews, Blacks or Hispanics to be like Hitler. He may never do those horrible things. He may never start a war.

Then he becomes another Putin. A guy who breaks the law and rigs elections. But Republicans will say "he doesn't murder his political rivals".

They always look for the differences but won't talk about the similarities.

 

[Kruska]

No, actually MAGA is only about 15% racists. You are wrong about that. Most of them just want the fraud, waste and abuse to end. Lots of blacks, gays, Hispanics, Muslims and women vote for MAGA. Calling them racist only pisses them off.

At least 90% of Americans are racist minded and real racists - what makes you think that, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics, Women (especially women!!), etc., etc., ain't racists??? Furthermore there is racist minded and a real racist. (the latter ones are foremost MAGA's) aka at least 50% of Americans are real racists.
As for Germans at least 70% are racist minded and around 20% of those are real racists. There are far less Real Racists in Germany, simply because we do not have this radical religious input, nor is 45-50% of our population Black&Hispanic - unlike the USA.

Remember a lot of Germans in 1943 didn't know Jews were being marched into ovens.

Since no Jews or others were marched into the ovens - naturally the German population didn't know.
Jews and others were rounded up and send to Camps or "resettled" to a "new home" - there they were worked to death, starved to death, shot beaten, hanged and gassed to death.

So they were the regular Nazis or today, MAGA.

No - they were regular Germans and around 30-60%, depending on the timeline supported Nazi nationalism - and those Nazi ideals were forced and indoctrinated by Nazis - aka MAGA's - onto those 30-60%.

And Trump's not going to go down the racist path.

He is a racist minded person - he already has been going down this path since latest Kindergarten - due to his immediate personal surroundings. And he uses racism to appease his real racist sheep.

Do you ever consider that people like Trump think Hitler was brilliant but he just went too far. He was right, but he also shouldn't have done some of the things he did. If he didn't do those things, who knows. Maybe the Brits and French would be speaking German today.

Hitler was a Fascist aficionado, so is Trump - and simply made use of Fascist methods to gain authoritarian and absolute rule.

Hitler&his Nazi gang needed absolute rule, in order to get their racist convictions and racial delusions to become reality.
Franco and Mussolini were Fascist as well - however none of them possessed a murderous racial conviction nor racial delusions.
They simply wanted to control the country and it's people solely to their gusto. - just as Trump or e.g. Putin or Kim Jong Un, simply and only so as to enrich themselves.

Are you and your US MAGA's even aware, that the Chancellor Candidate of the AfD is a LESBIAN, and her wife isn't even "Germanic" nor "white" but a "dark" Sri-Lanken. ??
YOU want to tell me, that a Lesbian Presidential Candidate married with a colored wife, would be supported/elected by MAGA's?? or by the American public in general???

If the rich are taking over America, they are taking over Germany too. They aren't the last holdout. I promise you that.

The "rich" have been ruling and taken over this planet, since humans got to know the meaning of "material-value". Aka a great looking flint-stone.

 

[sealybobo]

At least 90% of Americans are racist minded and real racists - what makes you think that, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics, Women (especially women!!), etc., etc., ain't racists??? Furthermore there is racist minded and a real racist. (the latter ones are foremost MAGA's) aka at least 50% of Americans are real racists.
As for Germans at least 70% are racist minded and around 20% of those are real racists. There are far less Real Racists in Germany, simply because we do not have this radical religious input, nor is 45-50% of our population Black&Hispanic - unlike the USA.

Since no Jews or others were marched into the ovens - naturally the German population didn't know.
Jews and others were rounded up and send to Camps or "resettled" to a "new home" - there they were worked to death, starved to death, shot beaten, hanged and gassed to death.

No - they were regular Germans and around 30-60%, depending on the timeline supported Nazi ideals - and those ideals were forced and indoctrinated by Nazis - aka MAGA's - onto those 30-60%.

He is a racist - he already has been going down this path since latest Kindergarten - due to his immediate personal surroundings.

Hitler was a Fascist aficionado, so is Trump - and simply made use of Fascist methods to gain authoritarian and absolute rule.

Hitler&his Nazi gang needed absolute rule, in order to get their racist convictions and racial delusions to become reality.
Franco and Mussolini were Fascist as well - however none of them possessed a murderous racial conviction nor racial delusions.
They simply wanted to control the country and it's people solely to their gusto. - just as Trump or e.g. Putin or Kim Jong Un, simply and only so as to enrich themselves.

Are you and your MAGA's even aware, that the Chancellor Candidate of the AfD is a LESBIAN - and her wife isn't even "Germanic" nor "white" but a "dark" Sri-Lanken. ??
YOU want to tell me, that a Lesbian Presidential Candidate married with a colored, would be supported/elected by MAGA's?? or by the American public in general???

The "rich" have been ruling and taken over this planet, since humans got to know the meaning of "material-value". Aka a great looking flint-stone.

Donald Trump has nominated out lesbian Tammy Bruce to be the U.S. Department of State's spokesperson

You Europeans think you are not racist but we make fun of you how you act towards blacks. It's insulting and ignorant and you don't even realize it.

It's easy to say you aren't racist when 87.2% of Germany's population is ethnic German. Start letting more non Germans in and see what happens.

You don't understand. Before Trump, the racists in America were marginalized. They were just a fringe group within the GOP. Today they are in power. I never thought it would happen.

Two types of Republicans. Fiscally conservative, corporations, rich people. Then you have socially conservative people. God, Gays, Guns, Racism is how the Republicans get those poor stupid people into voting with them.

Trump told people on welfare that illegal immigrants get more welfare $ than they do. So he even got poor people on welfare to vote for him.

And rich gays and blacks don't care about trump being racist and homophobic because they don't believe he will ever do anything to hurt them. All they care about is money. Do you know who Bruce Jenner is?

Caitlyn Jenner mocked for continued support of Trump: ‘He literally announced that you don’t exist’​

The other thing is you don't have as many rich people in Germany. Especially rich gays, blacks, muslims, etc.

As of July 2024, Germany had 806,100 millionaires with a net worth of at least $1 million. This represents about 3% of the country's population.

As of 2024, there were roughly 22 million millionaires in the United States

Rich people vote Republican usually

 

[Ringo]

Trump has launched a campaign to politically destroy Zelensky. A couple of hours ago, he made a series of harsh statements that were a real blow to the Ukrainian president. Trump openly called Zelensky a dictator, accusing him of obstructing the elections
in Ukraine. He said that without the US, Zelensky would never be able to negotiate peace with Russia, that Ukraine is destroyed, millions of people have died in vain, and Zelensky himself is dragging out the war for his own financial gain.

It is claimed that this is just the beginning.
In the near future White House should expect to launch a series of investigations that will put a cross on Zelensky. Materials are already being prepared that will uncover where billions of dollars allocated by the US to help Ukraine actually disappeared. Investigators are going to prove that a significant part of these was embezzled by Zelensky's inner circle, and he himself covered up for his associates and participated in schemes.

But the worst part is that the investigations will publicize evidence of reprisals against those who tried to stop the corruption flows. Inside Zelensky's team is already talking about “death lists” - these are journalists, officials and military officers who at various times tried to uncover the machinations but were killed, disappeared or imprisoned on trumped-up charges.

The main story is yet to come.
If Trump brings the campaign to an end, the facts will come to light that will not only ruin Zelensky's political career, but also bury the reputation of the entire current government in Ukraine. The question is no longer whether Zelensky will leave - the question is whether he will live to see it.

 

[Ringo]

Donald Trump announced the preparation of the first military aid package to Russia to defend against Ukrainian aggression.
It will be a day or two before the United States Marine Expeditionary Corps arrives in Kursk and joins the North Koreans in knocking out the Ukrainians.

 

[Ringo]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You mean when Russian tanks stormed across the border of an innocent neighbor?

Which neighbor was that?? Ukraine was a lunatic neighbor who kept threatening and waving a gun at their bigger neighbor

FAFO

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One of the condition is the removal of the unelected president. Ukraine must agree to hold presidential and parliamentary elections as part of an initial truce with Russia. The winner of the presidential election could be responsible for negotiating a longer-term pact with Moscow. Zelensky's legitimacy is questioned after Kiev postponed the presidential election slated for last year on the ground that the country is under martial law.

US urges Ukraine to hold elections after ceasefire, Reuters reports

Keith Kellogg, Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, told Reuters that presidential and parliamentary elections, suspended since the all-out war began, "need to be done."

kyivindependent.com

No ******* Dominion vote manufacturing machines either

 

[Kruska]

Donald Trump has nominated out lesbian Tammy Bruce to be the U.S. Department of State's spokesperson

You Europeans think you are not racist but we make fun of you how you act towards blacks. It's insulting and ignorant and you don't even realize it.

It's easy to say you aren't racist when 87.2% of Germany's population is ethnic German. Start letting more non Germans in and see what happens.

You don't understand. Before Trump, the racists in America were marginalized. They were just a fringe group within the GOP. Today they are in power. I never thought it would happen.

Two types of Republicans. Fiscally conservative, corporations, rich people. Then you have socially conservative people. God, Gays, Guns, Racism is how the Republicans get those poor stupid people into voting with them.

Trump told people on welfare that illegal immigrants get more welfare $ than they do. So he even got poor people on welfare to vote for him.

And rich gays and blacks don't care about trump being racist and homophobic because they don't believe he will ever do anything to hurt them. All they care about is money. Do you know who Bruce Jenner is?

Caitlyn Jenner mocked for continued support of Trump: ‘He literally announced that you don’t exist’​

The other thing is you don't have as many rich people in Germany. Especially rich gays, blacks, muslims, etc.

As of July 2024, Germany had 806,100 millionaires with a net worth of at least $1 million. This represents about 3% of the country's population.

As of 2024, there were roughly 22 million millionaires in the United States

Rich people vote Republican usually

Are you and your US MAGA's even aware, that the Chancellor Candidate of the AfD is a LESBIAN, and her wife isn't even "Germanic" nor "white" but a "dark" Sri-Lanken. ??
YOU want to tell me, that a Lesbian Presidential Candidate married with a colored wife, would be supported/elected by MAGA's?? or by the American public in general??? :

Therefore - who cares or is talking about some US government Spokesperson? One of the former German CABINET ministers - aka the foreign minister was a Gay - not some spokesperson.

Racists in the USA had been kept at bay via "laws" especially those implemented by the Democrats in the 60'ies - and as I had stated before - latest upon Obama's election win - they all started to go public, aka leave the shadows. And I personally know numerous Democrats who are racists.

Millionaires? so what? everyone knows that the USA is a full fledged Capitalist country - naturally they have the largest amount of millionaires worldwide. They also have the largest number of jobless/homeless&poor in the Western world. How may millionaires and fortunes did the US lose, due to WWI and WWII - in comparison to e.g. Germany. ? NONE

The vast majority of those European religious nuts "cults" immigrated to the USA, the vast majority of those immigrants coming to the USA - where those of the low worker class and landless serfs - because in the USA they could become rich and/or obtain land. There was also no Gold Rush in Europe that would draw in all "kinds" of people.

And foremost: in Europe there was no vacant land - so these US and immigrant settler treks went off, murdering and killing those who possessed land and introduced into the US society what Europeans refer to as LAWLESS ANARCHY - aka the Right of the Strong. No money no talk, Whites are superior to those indiginious and any non-white, etc, etc,
Which European democratic country in the 1920'ies to 1960'ies ever had Jim Crow laws.??

That you try to defend your country is obvious, and I can understand that as such. But any European who has been to the USA knows very well as to how racist and conservative the US society really is. So MAGA's rise, came to no ones surprise. Certainly not to me. To me it became obvious when I first came to the USA under Reagan - Make America Strong - Buy American - these buttons - I am proud to be American, and with it this obvious, conservative religious input and the racial mindset existing in the USA.

As for your racist example pertaining to Germans regarding Negros:
One of the first and main statements of Black GI's in Germany was; hey here we are at liberty to have German (white) girls.

Germany NEVER had to introduce or ENFORCE - certainly not via a National Guard, any racial equality laws unlike the USA - since racial equality is part of our Constitution.
It's solely lefty/libs who keep propagating that a German who opposes migrants e.g. some Negro and their "preferences" in regards to courts and law enforcement, is supposedly a NAZI or a right-winger. Just because some 5-7% of those speaking out loudly and or are even involved in violent acts against migrants are indeed Nazis or knuckle-head right wingers.

Whilst more then 80% of Germans simply oppose the unjust regulations that pertain to migrant benefits. As I had stated before:
If the German economy would be like 10 years ago - the vast majority of Germans couldn't be bothered about migrants.

And if a German applies common sense, e.g. a criminal migrant (regardless of his ethnicity or religion) needs to be deported immediately - you got these Lefty/libs crawling out of every corner and whining/bitching Nazis, Nazis......

However we don't have MAGA's whining and bitching around in Germany, that ALL illegal migrants need to be forced out, that they eat rats and are all criminals and religious fanatics. We are very well aware that this is NOT the case and that our economy factually needs these migrants and illegal migrants.

Go to Germany to any e.g. restaurant, coffeeshop/house, Supermarket and even to small sized manufacturing companies and try to find German staff. You more or less won't because those Germans who could - prefer to stay at home- collect government benefits and whine and ***** about migrants.

And these low lifers, ill educated and religious nuts, are those who support and vote Republicans and MAGA's in the USA - whilst these "eloquent" - "woke" and living in another world people, vote for Democrats. And these "eloquent" and "woke" people are NOT poor or workers - but rather the opposite.

Your statement therefore, that rich people vote for the Republicans is somewhere out from the 60'ies to 90'ies.
Around 40% of the US population did not vote in Nov. 2024 - and from those remaining - some 52% voted for MAGA.
A racist-conservative-religious inspired community. Around 80% of my workforce in Colorado are MAGA's and around 60% of my workforce in California are MAGA's. Whilst in Colorado and California around 70% of the white collars are Democrats.

Now you trying to tell me or convince me that those other 40% non voters in the USA would be Democrats and Liberals??

 

[Cassandro]

Why on Earth would the Russians be opposed to having NATO troops and missiles 260 miles from Moscow?

 

[Litwin]

Finnish President Stubb has proposed a three-stage plan for a settlement in Ukraine, where Finland goes **** itself in the first stage.

sure rooster , sure