You've got a lot of nerve. It YOU fucktards who don't understand how insurance works! When you mandate coverage for preexisting conditions, it becomes stupid for someone to pay for insurance until they are sick. The insurance carriers also have to be able to assess risk... A pyromaniac who has a history of burning his house down, might not be able to buy fire insurance because he's too much of a risk.
Most health care issues are things that are out of people's control. They're genetic conditions that predispose people to certain things, or sometimes shit just happens (like appendicitis). You correctly say it's stupid to pay for insurance once you're sick, well, it's stupid to not have insurance at all when you do get sick. So what happens when you get sick and have no insurance? It's that part you guys never have an answer for beyond "don't get sick." Well don't be stupid, and get insurance. You people
still don't understand what health insurance is. How is that possible????
As for medical costs, whether you need it or not, it's not my responsibility to pay for what you can't afford. .
Fucking moron...
you're paying for it anyway. You pay higher premiums because people go to hospitals without insurance, incur high medical costs, and then can't pay it back. What do you think happens to the costs that "aren't paid back"? That's not a rhetorical question either, I seriously want to know what you think. You pay for it anyway when you pay your premium because that premium goes to pay for health care those enrolled in insurance cannot afford out of pocket. So you socialize your premiums together with the millions of other people enrolled in your plan. Those people may incur high medical costs, regardless of their previous risk. As I said many times, you don't know what your health needs are going to be day-to-day, and it's stupid to pretend you do. This just gets back to what I've been saying;
you don't know what health insurance is, you don't know what insurance companies do, and you don't know how it relates to delivery of health care.
Every hospital in the country is subject to indigent care laws so they have to perform the appendectomy regardless of your ability to pay. Now, they may bill you or garnish your wages to recover the cost but that's the price you pay for them saving your life.
And what if they can't recover the cost from garnishing your wages? Pre-ACA, 60% of all bankruptcies were medical related, and 75% of those were people
who had insurance. So the system you want continues to bankrupt people for things out of their control (like appendicitis). You don't seem to understand anything we're talking about. It's all off the top of your head, isn't it?
Well you're just fucking telling a lie. It was NOT the GOP who brought the case in question, it was the National Federation of Independent Business.
A GOP-affiliated group that counts all 25 of its Congressional members in the Republican Party. 96% of its "donations" are to Republicans. This is what I'm talking about when I say you are just shitting this out off the top of your head. You do rushed, sloppy work.
They lost the challenge of constitutionally requiring all to have health care coverage but ruled that mandatory state Medicaid expansion was unconstitutional. When you pass an unconstitutional law and it is rightfully challenged, that isn't "ruining" anything. That's ensuring constitutionality.
By doing what they did, they plunged millions of people into the Medicaid coverage gap. You admit that, right?
The risk corridors was after the fact.
Hold up. I said that the GOP has done everything they can to undermine the law
since inception. The law was executed (inception) in March 2010. Rubio destroyed the risk corridors
in 2013. Is 2013 before or after 2010? So since the law's inception in March 2010, Conservatives destroyed the risk corridors in 2013. Since the law's inception in 2010, Conservative Red State death panels refused to expand Medicaid. Now we have a case of words not meaning what they mean, according to clowns whose egos are so fragile, they have to post bullshit on message boards to make them feel better about themselves. Instead, you just look stupid.
This was because Obamacare FAILED to do as promised.
WTF? you don't know
anything. The risk corridors were present in the law prior to 2013. Than you guys took those out, and after they were taken out, the promise of insurance failed. But that's not because of Obamacare. That's because of you guys deliberately undermining Obamacare.
It's not "undermining" something when you refuse to prop it up as it fails.
It only failed because you undermined it. Prior to removing the risk corridors, it wasn't failing. Only when you eliminated those risk corridors did insurers start dropping out of the exchanges. Moron.
This bill had failure written all over it and we warned you it did. Now, you're wanting to blame us for not doling out taxpayer money to prop it up.
WRONG. It didn't have failure written all over it. Not until you guys started chipping away at it. You did that by refusing to expand Medicaid, by eliminating the risk corridors, and by actively discouraging people from signing up. This is that personal responsibility shit you all screech about, but never put in practice. You all sowed chaos in the exchanges when you removed the risk corridors. That's what made it possible for insurers to offer coverage in areas where Trump won. But you'll never grasp that because you don't know what health insurance is, don't know what insurance companies do, and don't know how it relates to delivery.