Trump now owns healthcare, and the GOP will need to go home

[Penelope]

Total libtarding nonsense. None of your drivel is true.

So what did they just vote on, then?

Motion to proceed. They are debating the bill (not sure which one), amendments.

Trump is on TV, he said its the beginning of the end of the ACA, they will have a plan in 2 weeks.

 

[OldLady]

Good then. It needs to be gone. No way in hell is it legal to force a tax on me if I don't have insurance.

Individual mandates are necessary if you're guaranteeing universal coverage. You're not opposed to the mandate, you're opposed to affordable health insurance.

They will get rid of mandate, ind and employer, cost sharing , expanded Medicaid, increase HSA's, whatever the GOP wants. Trump is going to sign it.

Basically it gives permission for the GOP to do whatever they want. Pence is the tie breaker.

A vote to debate is not a vote to approve. There are still two firm holdouts. All it takes is one more senator who doesn't want to go home and face a screaming constituency.
Stay strong.

 

[The Derp]

Riiight. You know exactly what we want. Typical buttstain liberal. You don't know jack man.

So if I have you wrong, then what is it you want? And please don't say "free market". I'm done with platitudes.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

and face the dirty facts of what they just did. Say goodbye to your seats next election. Taking millions off of healthcare to give tax cuts to the wealthy. Shame , shame , shame.

Whoever wanted this and voted for this, just remember you will reap what you sowed. You have got what you wanted, so clap and laugh and face the reality of what you voted for.

This is probably the saddest day in the US history. Taking healthcare away from millions to give tax cuts to the wealthy.

Now Mike Pence needs to break the tie and we know what his vote will be.

Its over and the GOP is over.

It was a vote to allow floor debate, good grief

 

[Defiant1]

We want insurance companies to be free from government interference.
To be able to offer plans for that benefit the majority of the country.

 

[The Derp]

We want insurance companies to be free from government interference.
To be able to offer plans for that benefit the majority of the country.

Which they didn't do before the ACA, so why would they magically do that now?

 

[The Derp]

It was a vote to allow floor debate, good grief

Floor debate on what? That "what" always seems to be unknown, even after 7 years of screeching and 60+ repeal votes.

 

[miketx]

It was a vote to allow floor debate, good grief

Floor debate on what? That "what" always seems to be unknown, even after 7 years of screeching and 60+ repeal votes.

Did you forget what we are talking about already?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Repeal Obunglescare and get government the hell out of it

 

[The Derp]

Did you forget what we are talking about already?

The non-existent Conservative replacement for Obamacare. The thing you guys had 7 years to work on, but for some reason didn't. How come? What the fuck have you assholes been doing the last 7 years besides posturing? Surely, you could have come up with a plan but you didn't. So all that Obamacare whining was posturing, wasn't it?

 

[Defiant1]

We want insurance companies to be free from government interference.
To be able to offer plans for that benefit the majority of the country.

Which they didn't do before the ACA, so why would they magically do that now?

It would be fine if we would go back to pre ACA and Trump could remove more regulations.

 

[The Derp]

Repeal Obunglescare and get government the hell out of it

Government out of what? It doesn't seem like you even know what you're talking about.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Repeal Obunglescare and get government the hell out of it

Government out of what? It doesn't seem like you even know what you're talking about.

Dude I don't know who the fuck you are but cease annoying me.

Government would fuck up a wet dream and that's what the dems did with healthcare. It's a disaster

 

[The Derp]

It would be fine if we would go back to pre ACA and Trump could remove more regulations.

Pre-ACA 48 million people had no insurance, premiums rose at faster rates than they do today, medical bankruptcies were 60% of all bankruptcies (the other 40% were Trump's...LOL), insurance companies could kick you off your insurance plan for no reason and then blacklist you among all other insurers, insurance companies would routinely deny claims, and catastrophic plans had lifetime caps which means they weren't catastrophic plans at all.

That's the system you want to go back to? Why?

 

[debbiedowner]

Until the Republicans pass something, and Trump signs it...

It's still Obamacare

Not really HHS secretary has changed some things that don't need legislation.

 

[The Derp]

Government would fuck up a wet dream and that's what the dems did with healthcare. It's a disaster

How would it do that if all it would do in a single payer system is administration, which is all insurance companies do today?

 

[Auld Phart]

Until the Republicans pass something, and Trump signs it...

It's still Obamacare

Not really HHS secretary has changed some things that don't need legislation.

 

[debbiedowner]

Good then. It needs to be gone. No way in hell is it legal to force a tax on me if I don't have insurance.

Individual mandates are necessary if you're guaranteeing universal coverage. You're not opposed to the mandate, you're opposed to affordable health insurance.

They will get rid of mandate, ind and employer, cost sharing , expanded Medicaid, increase HSA's, whatever the GOP wants. Trump is going to sign it.

Basically it gives permission for the GOP to do whatever they want. Pence is the tie breaker.

More than likely you're right and then the crying will start when those rates don't go down. Not to mention the loss of jobs in the insurance industry which has already started with Molina yesterday, laying off 1400 employees.

 

[debbiedowner]

Until the Republicans pass something, and Trump signs it...

It's still Obamacare

Not really HHS secretary has changed some things that don't need legislation.

When did they start letting school children become moderators?

 

[Penelope]

Imagine what they just did, left all patients and all insurance companies and health care industries not knowing any future. It has disrupted the whole health care industry.