Trump Now Gets a $1.8BN Taxpayer Slush Fund to Pay Others

[Political-Junkie]

Yes I said they were, and they settled...not sure your point, people settle cases all the time without going to trial

The question is, did the IRS owe trump a duty to protect his info? Yes. Did that intel get released? Yes. In fact, someone they hired went to prison for doing it.

Res ipsa loquitur res ipsa loquitur

The law says you can only sue the government if the government leaked the returns, which the government didn't do.

 

[struth]

The law says you can only sue the government if the government leaked the returns, which the government didn't do.

Then how did this guy get them? But for the Govt. Did he hack into the Govt system? you got proof?

 

[struth]

Not according to the law.

26 U.S. Code § 7431 - Civil damages for unauthorized inspection or disclosure of returns and return information

(a)In general

(1)Inspection or disclosure by employee of United States

If any officer or employee of the United States knowingly, or by reason of negligence, inspects or discloses any return or return information with respect to a taxpayer in violation of any provision of section 6103, such taxpayer may bring a civil action for damages against the United States in a district court of the United States.

(2)Inspection or disclosure by a person who is not an employee of United States

If any person who is not an officer or employee of the United States knowingly, or by reason of negligence, inspects or discloses any return or return information with respect to a taxpayer in violation of any provision of section 6103 or in violation of section 6104(c), such taxpayer may bring a civil action for damages against such person in a district court of the United States.

(a)In general

(1)Inspection or disclosure by employee of United States

If any officer or employee of the United States knowingly, or by reason of negligence, inspects or discloses any return or return information with respect to a taxpayer in violation of any provision of section 6103, such taxpayer may bring a civil action for damages against the United States in a district court of the United States.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Then how did this guy get them? But for the Govt. Did he hack into the Govt system? you got proof?

He stole them.

 

[struth]

He stole them.

How did he have access to them to do that?

 

[Concerned American]

Not according to the law.

26 U.S. Code § 7431 - Civil damages for unauthorized inspection or disclosure of returns and return information

(a)In general

(1)Inspection or disclosure by employee of United States

If any officer or employee of the United States knowingly, or by reason of negligence, inspects or discloses any return or return information with respect to a taxpayer in violation of any provision of section 6103, such taxpayer may bring a civil action for damages against the United States in a district court of the United States.

(2)Inspection or disclosure by a person who is not an employee of United States

If any person who is not an officer or employee of the United States knowingly, or by reason of negligence, inspects or discloses any return or return information with respect to a taxpayer in violation of any provision of section 6103 or in violation of section 6104(c), such taxpayer may bring a civil action for damages against such person in a district court of the United States.

You really should work on comprehension. The IRS is an agency of the US tasked with securing taxpayer privacy. It is incumbent on them, and by extension, their contractors and subcontractors to secure that info. SMH, democrats!

 

[Political-Junkie]

How did he have access to them to do that?

It was his job to have access to them.

 

[struth]

It was his job to have access to them.

who gave him that job?

 

[Political-Junkie]

You really should work on comprehension. The IRS is an agency of the US tasked with securing taxpayer privacy. It is incumbent on them, and by extension, their contractors and subcontractors to secure that info. SMH, democrats!

And the law I showed you states if your tax records are disclosed without authorization by an employee of the government, you can sue the government. But if your tax records are disclosed without authorization by someone who is not an employee of the government, then you can sue that person. The leaker was not an employee of the government. He was an employee of a private firm.

 

[Political-Junkie]

who gave him that job?

His employer.

 

[struth]

His employer.

How did his employer get the IRS info?

 

[Concerned American]

The leaker was not an employee of the government. He was an employee of a private firm.

Now run along. Work on your comprehension skills---clearly you have NO COMMON SENSE.
IRS contractors who perform work for the IRS are subject to the same security and confidentiality responsibilities as IRS employees. This includes adhering to strict laws that protect taxpayer information from unauthorized disclosure.
taxlawcenter.org Wikipedia

 

[Political-Junkie]

How did his employer get the IRS info?

No one said his employer got that.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Now run along. Work on your comprehension skills---clearly you have NO COMMON SENSE.
IRS contractors who perform work for the IRS are subject to the same security and confidentiality responsibilities as IRS employees. This includes adhering to strict laws that protect taxpayer information from unauthorized disclosure.
taxlawcenter.org Wikipedia

You're confusing apples with oranges. No one has said contractors don't face the same security and confidentiality responsibilities as IRS employees.

 

[struth]

No one said his employer got that.

You literally just said his job gave him access to the IRS data....that he illegally disclosed...did you not just say that?

 

[Care4all]

1) no he didn't, if he owes back taxes they can send him a bill....and geez, that was from the 90s....if that's the case, why is the IRS so far behind? Isn't there a SOL on that?
2) He didn't get any more money, the 1.8 is in the Settlement Fund created by Congress, it's just earmarked for people with specfic cases....anyone can apply for it

It wasn't from the 90s, he filed for bankruptcy 6 times on those Casinos of his, even had to file twice on at least one of restructured bankruptcies from earlier because the restructuring on the first bankruptcy failed....

This audit that the IRS have been trying to collect is from a 2006 filing that they audited starting in 2010 is my understanding, and that by ending g all audits in to any of the Trump's including family and his company's taxes filed in the past to the present, ends taxes due.

 

[struth]

And the law I showed you states if your tax records are disclosed without authorization by an employee of the government, you can sue the government. But if your tax records are disclosed without authorization by someone who is not an employee of the government, then you can sue that person. The leaker was not an employee of the government. He was an employee of a private firm.

He was an IRS contractor, who's employment was dictated and controled by the IRS....meaning for legal purposes he was not an INDEPENDANT contractor, and thus and thus an employee for legal purposes.

With that said, we don't even have to go that route, it's clear an IRS officer or employee had to contact with this person, or his firm, and in doing so were negligent because the records were released

There are at least two legal theories to sue the Govt over this

 

[struth]

It wasn't from the 90s, he filed for bankruptcy 6 times on those Casinos of his, even had to file twice on at least one of restructured bankruptcies from earlier because the restructuring on the first bankruptcy failed....

This audit that the IRS have been trying to collect is from a 2006 filing that they audited starting in 2010 is my understanding, and that by ending g all audits in to any of the Trump's including family and his company's taxes filed in the past to the present.

he filed for bankrupty on a number of properties, 1991, 1992

He didn't file for bankrupty in 2006

And audit isn’t when the govt is trying to collect

Geez and audit is an accounting process

 

[Concerned American]

No one has said contractors don't face the same security and confidentiality responsibilities as IRS employees.

I'm glad you agree. The same RESPONSIBILITIES. They failed, they are culpable. SMFH. Moron trolls.

 

[Care4all]

Nope. Your TDS media is telling you he may owe up to some amount. But in 18 years, they have never proven it.

Who told you that??