Trump may have already changed his mind after today's market carnage.

[CowboyTed]

They are MADE in the United States, sure, parts can come from other places, but the parts are all put together to MAKE, or manufactor the auto, here.

That's what we mean by Assembled....
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Ping is the same way with Golf Clubs... I think almost all the parts are made in China

• Grip
• Shaft
• Heads

They are then assembled in Arizona, the biggest item and major work is in the heads as they have special forge in China to make both cast and forged heads...

If you want to say that is made in US, go on a head... But the most hours on making that club is in China.
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If US is after assembly plants then go on ahead... Don't tariff parts and you can have assembly plants, don't think there is much objections...

The real money in Cars now is in tech... Information Tech...

 

[Delldude]

All tariffs will remain in place
Nothing will change

The sky is falling.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

No, the trade war will end within a couple months. The short term pain from this trade war will effect the midterms if it isnt ended soon enough. Trump will get SOMETHING out of our trade partners in return for ending the tariffs; more from some and less from others, but its going to happen. Once the trade war ends, the economy is going to cook.

I love your post, and I appreciate your optimism.

It also happens to be the case that you may be dead on with this analysis.

But none of us truly know.

Which, of course, has to be the case if it truly is just a game of who blinks first.

But again, that remains to be seen.

 

[berg80]

Cramer says Trump is following the perfect plan if the goal is to crash the market

CNBC’s Jim Cramer on Friday blasted the White House for its approach to trade policy, arguing that it threatens to further slam stocks.

“It should not be in our country’s interest to have the market crash,” Cramer said on “Squawk on the Street,” as U.S. stocks were coming under heavy selling pressure in premarket trading. The S&P 500 tumbled 3% shortly after Friday’s opening bell, building on its 4.8% plunge in Thursday’s session.

“I struggle for what the president’s game plan is because if you wanted to make the market crash, I think you would go with this game plan,” Cramer said Friday. “I don’t like that game plan. I do not favor that ... It’s very disappointing.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/cramer-trump-is-following-the-perfect-plan-to-crash-the-market.html

Maybe trump got short and that's why he's causing this calamity.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

No, the trade war will end within a couple months. The short term pain from this trade war will effect the midterms if it isnt ended soon enough. Trump will get SOMETHING out of our trade partners in return for ending the tariffs; more from some and less from others, but its going to happen. Once the trade war ends, the economy is going to cook.

Just another thought:

Trump has promised blue collar workers to re-shore manufacturing here.

It can be easily argued that this is an overwhelmingly positive development.

On the other hand, such an outcome would directly fly in the face of the very idea of a temporary game of chicken.

I mean, it would require true long term investment from hordes of companies.

Would that not inherently mean a new global system, for better or worse?

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Cramer says Trump is following the perfect plan if the goal is to crash the market

Since Cramer is always wrong about ******* everything - and even has his own NFT corresponding to such - I suddenly feel a whole lot better.

 

[CowboyTed]

Just another thought:

Trump has promised blue collar workers to re-shore manufacturing here.

It can be easily argued that this is an overwhelmingly positive development.

On the other hand, such an outcome would directly fly in the face of the very idea of a temporary game of chicken.

I mean, it would require true long term investment from hordes of companies.

Would that not inherently mean a new global system, for better or worse?

No company is building a plant with this much uncertainty....

This is the exact opposite conditions to invest in America...

You have a WH Admin that is just spitballing numbers and making up tariffs on the fly...

This is the most business interventionist Administration since WW2... This is ver y very big government...

 

[struth]

That's what we mean by Assembled....
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Ping is the same way with Golf Clubs... I think almost all the parts are made in China

• Grip
• Shaft
• Heads

They are then assembled in Arizona, the biggest item and major work is in the heads as they have special forge in China to make both cast and forged heads...

If you want to say that is made in US, go on a head... But the most hours on making that club is in China.
------------------------

If US is after assembly plants then go on ahead... Don't tariff parts and you can have assembly plants, don't think there is much objections...

The real money in Cars now is in tech... Information Tech...

Didn't realize Ping made their clubs in Arizona. Nice.

Parts are only tariffed if they come from other countries that have tariffs. Manufactoring plants are already moving to the United States to avoid tariffs. https://www.reuters.com/business/co...-lessen-fallout-potential-tariffs-2025-01-29/

 

[ThisIsMe]

I’m upset that he did this at ALL

OK, but the OP is razzing trump for changing his mind...you'd think you'd all see this as a good thing.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

OK, but the OP is razzing trump for changing his mind...you'd think you'd all see this as a good thing.

Yup..the problem, of course--that he might talk to some Newsmax reporter and completely change his mind.
Again.

I wonder, if anyone has given any thought to what might happen...if most of the world actually tells us to GFO's?

We go to war to back up our economic hegemony?

 

[Godboy]

Just another thought:

Trump has promised blue collar workers to re-shore manufacturing here.

It can be easily argued that this is an overwhelmingly positive development.

On the other hand, such an outcome would directly fly in the face of the very idea of a temporary game of chicken.

I mean, it would require true long term investment from hordes of companies.

Would that not inherently mean a new global system, for better or worse?

American manufacturing isnt coming back until the age of robots, maybe in 30 years. Saying it will come back with tariffs sure makes Trump look crazy though, doesnt it? Crazy guys always win the game of chicken because their opponents think they are suicidal.

Its all a ruse.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yup..the problem, of course--that he might talk to some Newsmax reporter and completely change his mind.
Again.

I wonder, if anyone has given any thought to what might happen...if most of the world actually tells us to GFO's?

We go to war to back up our economic hegemony?

I don't know, but what is the alternative? Go back to the way it was where the US supports the economies of the rest of the world? Why is wanting to have equal access to markets a bad thing?

 

[Seymour Flops]

His staff was quoted earlier today saying the tariffs are not a negotiating tool.

• Trump administration officials insist that the sweeping tariffs are not a negotiation tactic, and that Trump “is not going to back off.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/03/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-market-trade-war.html

So..........you might want to GFY.

Because that’s the first thing you say if you are a negotiator. “This is non-negotiable!”

Then it becomes a “victory” for the other side just to get you to come to the table. That’s the difference between a businessman president and a politician president.

 

[AveMarica]

ALL good real core Americans use the word ****** to disparage dudes who choose to gargle man gravy and take c@ck in their filthy asses….Sorry.

I bet everyone around you has the same suspicions, you are clearly a closet homosexual.

Acting like this only makes it obvious, try toning it down some tinkerbell.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I don't know, but what is the alternative? Go back to the way it was where the US supports the economies of the rest of the world? Why is wanting to have equal access to markets a bad thing?

Because..when the 230lb 12 yo wants everything decided by a contest of physical might--and calls it a 'level playing field' because all the 90Lb 12 year olds are free to get smashed--its a step backward for everyone in the world.

The rest of the world sees its worst nightmare unfolding..an expansionist US who ignores rules and treaties in favor of overt and covert threats. These are proud people also...it seems unrealistic to think that they all are going to 'cow down'--especially when even that is not a guarantee that Trump won't screw you just out of spite.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

American manufacturing isnt coming back until the age of robots, maybe in 30 years. Saying it will come back with tariffs sure makes Trump look crazy though, doesnt it? Crazy guys always win the game of chicken because their opponents think they are suicidal.

Its all a ruse.

What about all the companies re-investing right now in factories stateside?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

What about all the companies re-investing right now in factories stateside?

Huh. When workers start cashing paychecks from manufacturing jobs--I'll get excited.
For now, it's all bloviation and press releases.

 

[AveMarica]

I don't know, but what is the alternative? Go back to the way it was where the US supports the economies of the rest of the world? Why is wanting to have equal access to markets a bad thing?

A trade deficit does not equate to supporting another country's economy.

 

[leftwinger]

Because..when the 230lb 12 yo wants everything decided by a contest of physical might--and calls it a 'level playing field' because all the 90Lb 12 year olds are free to get smashed--its a step backward for everyone in the world.

The rest of the world sees its worst nightmare unfolding..an expansionist US who ignores rules and treaties in favor of overt and covert threats. These are proud people also...it seems unrealistic to think that they all are going to 'cow down'--especially even that is not a guarantee that Trump won't screw you just out of spite.

Understood. Put you down as a do-nothing business-as-usual deep statist grifter.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Because..when the 230lb 12 yo wants everything decided by a contest of physical might--and calls it a 'level playing field' because all the 90Lb 12 year olds are free to get smashed--its a step backward for everyone in the world.

The rest of the world sees its worst nightmare unfolding..an expansionist US who ignores rules and treaties in favor of overt and covert threats. These are proud people also...it seems unrealistic to think that they all are going to 'cow down'--especially when even that is not a guarantee that Trump won't screw you just out of spite.

So because we have a good economy, we have to intentionally allow ourselves to be ran over by everyone else?