Trump is right—Iran has no cards

[Independent thinker]

Same question- what would be the loss of life?

So now you want to fight wars with no loss of life or just not do any wars at all because someone might die?

 

[Independent thinker]

Better to take it away and remove all their centrifuges.
We offered them free nuclear fuel, that and solar and oil/gas should provide more than enough energy.

Funny how they refuse to accept that while trying to claim that their nuclear ambitions are only peaceful.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Iran is screwed.

A blockade has historically been an effective tactic. It might be more effective than bombing military targets.

 

[kyzr]

Funny how they refuse to accept that while trying to claim that their nuclear ambitions are only peaceful.

On top of that we offered them free nuclear fuel if they stop enriching, they said NO.

 

[ElmerMudd]

So now you want to fight wars with no loss of life or just not do any wars at all because someone might die?

Loss of life is part of war. When decisions are made on going to war, with boots on the ground, if the cost of meeting the objective is too high, you don't put boots on the ground.
Do you feel it does not matter how many lives it takes, you put boots on the ground, if that what it takes to get the enriched uranium.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like the USA, Iraq, Iran and Libya are big producers of gasoline.

Gas prices today

USA: $4.00
Iraq $2.65
Iran (you know, the brutal, cruel, hateful 12th Century barbarians) $.11/gallon 11 cents per gallon
Libya .09 to .11

 

[toomuchtime_]

Like the USA, Iraq, Iran and Libya are big producers of gasoline.

Gas prices today

USA: $4.00
Iraq $2.65
Iran (you know, the brutal, cruel, hateful 12th Century barbarians) $.11/gallon 11 cents per gallon
Libya .09 to .11

Actually, they produce a lot of crude oil but vey little gasoline.

 

[Independent thinker]

Loss of life is part of war. When decisions are made on going to war, with boots on the ground, if the cost of meeting the objective is too high, you don't put boots on the ground.
Do you feel it does not matter how many lives it takes, you put boots on the ground, if that what it takes to get the enriched uranium.

I have said repeadedly that we don't need to put boots on the ground to get the enriched uranium. You only hear what you want to hear and only read what you want to read.

 

[Independent thinker]

Like the USA, Iraq, Iran and Libya are big producers of gasoline.

Gas prices today

USA: $4.00
Iraq $2.65
Iran (you know, the brutal, cruel, hateful 12th Century barbarians) $.11/gallon 11 cents per gallon
Libya .09 to .11

You lay out a good case for just invading Iran and annexing it as a US territory.

 

[Ringo]

 

[kyzr]

Pete Hegseth accidentally confesses that Iran’s nuclear program was obliterated and not an imminent threat, which means just like Iraq this entire war was based on a lie.

Not true. The 460 kg of 60% enriched uranium is still there, buried, and Iran is digging it out to make bombs.

We want that 460 kg of enriched uranium. Entirely consistent rationale'.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I have said repeadedly that we don't need to put boots on the ground to get the enriched uranium. You only hear what you want to hear and only read what you want to read.

What I hear from multiple sources on all sides of the political spectrum that it is doubtfull they can get the uranium without boots on the ground

 

[Independent thinker]

What I hear from multiple sources on all sides of the political spectrum that it is doubtfull they can get the uranium without boots on the ground

I don't care what others say. I have my own opinions. First, we don't really need to get the uranium. It is currently buried and probably will be for some time. Second, if we solve the first problem of getting rid of the revolutionary guard and have real regime change, the enriched uranium problem will take care of itself.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What I hear from multiple sources on all sides of the political spectrum that it is doubtfull they can get the uranium without boots on the ground

Multiple sources all imaginary?

The campaign will not be over until they do hand it over.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We wait until Iran cant pump oil anymore just a few days away. They run out of storage and must shut down their wells which cant be restarted. Their economy will collapse.

Just Iran’s economy, right? You really thought about this

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Multiple sources all imaginary?

The campaign will not be over until they do hand it over.

I thought it was destroyed last summer?

 

[toomuchtime_]

I thought it was destroyed last summer?

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It is not clear you do any thinking at all, but the ayatollahs' enrichment centers were destroyed last summer, but after a few months activities were observed at the sites US intelligence believed meant the ayatollahs were either trrying to rebuild the sites or retrieving equipment to use elsewhere and it was necessary to convince them this would not be turn out well for them; hence this war.

The US position is very clear: the ayatollahs must get rid of all enrichment equipment and end all efforts to enrich uranium; it must get rid of all offensive missiles and stop trying to build them; they must give up their claim to the Strait of Hormuz; they must end their support of their Arab proxies.

This was also Obama's starting position in his negotiations with the ayatollahs, but after two years of arguing, Obama capitulated on every point to the ayatollahs.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It is not clear you do any thinking at all, but the ayatollahs' enrichment centers were destroyed last summer, but after a few months activities were observed at the sites US intelligence believed meant the ayatollahs were either trrying to rebuild the sites or retrieving equipment to use elsewhere and it was necessary to convince them this would not be turn out well for them; hence this war.

The US position is very clear: the ayatollahs must get rid of all enrichment equipment and end all efforts to enrich uranium; it must get rid of all offensive missiles and stop trying to build them; they must give up their claim to the Strait of Hormuz; they must end their support of their Arab proxies.

This was also Obama's starting position in his negotiations with the ayatollahs, but after two years of arguing, Obama capitulated on every point to the ayatollahs.

Did the Iranians use Miele vacuum cleaners to collect the uranium dust from the “obliterated” facilities?

Was Jared’s Spidey Sense Tingling from the uranium dust?

Were you surprised at the dramatic change in weather, the ending of a decade long drought, after the US “radars” were eliminated?

 

[kyzr]

Did the Iranians use Miele vacuum cleaners to collect the uranium dust from the “obliterated” facilities?
Was Jared’s Spidey Sense Tingling from the uranium dust?
Were you surprised at the dramatic change in weather, the ending of a decade long drought, after the US “radars” were eliminated?

We really need a "WTF" emoji in the "Thanks" button.

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[Ringo]

We want that 460 kg of enriched uranium. Entirely consistent rationale'.

Ask Pakistan. The not only have enriched uranium, but ready A-bombs.