EvMetro
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It's been almost 4 years since I started this thread, and nobody has posted a shred of evidence that proves Trump is a racist. All I have seen posted are allegations, dismissed cases, gish gallop, secondhand quotes, and propaganda.
Is there evidence that proves Trump is a racist in this propaganda?
its Trump himself.
This is an allegation. An allegation in itself is not evidence that proves Trump is a racist.
video recording of Trump saying racist things is not an allegation.
video recording of Trump saying racist things is evidence.
If Trump said something racist, post it here. Wrap quote marks around what he really did say. If it really is a racist comment, I will vet it by following a link. Posting a link to where you want the evidence to be is not actual evidence. Quote it here for the world to see.
the twitter link is not rendering for you?
As you know, President Trump loves New York as much as he loves America.
Your post is bogus. At the time Trump took out that ad and made those statements the Central Park Five had been arrested, tried, and convicted which highlighted the crime wave in New York. New York was fed up. They had 1,896 murders the year of that assault.
Using that as an indication that President Trump is racist is just plain foolish and confirmation that you have nothing and are grasping at straws.
What did Trump say after they were exonerated?
Trump doesn't apologize to Central Park Five: 'You have people on both sides of that'
"You have people on both sides of that," Trump told reporters, but he did not apologize for taking out an ad calling for the teenagers' executions.www.usatoday.com
The CP5 thing doesn't belong in this thread unless you can produce some evidence that proves that any of Trump's actions or words were racially motivated as opposed to being motivated by disgust for the alleged crime/s.
The poster that I answered asked "what Trump said after they were exonerated", and I answered her.
It is in the link.
However, just to play the devils advocate, if the previous POTUS had made similar remarks that
the soon to be former one has, would you perceive HIM to be racist?
Just curious.
Racism is one of my favorite topics to discuss. One of my passions is differentiating actual racism from the political weapon.
That's obvious. And "racism" is a multi faceted issue.
So, based on that, had the previous POTUS had made similar statements to some of those made by the current one, would you have perceived him as a racist?
Often, lefties will evade the topic of my threads by asking new questions, and then they will accuse me of evading when I don't answer their evasion.
First, your post suggests that you doubt or didn't understand when I said that I enjoy differentiating actual racism from the political weapon. This makes me wonder if YOU are able to do the same.
If the previous president made statements that were racist, I would call it racism. Perhaps you should post an example of what type of statements from Trump you are referring to.
It's been almost 4 years since I started this thread, and nobody has posted a shred of evidence that proves Trump is a racist. All I have seen posted are allegations, dismissed cases, gish gallop, secondhand quotes, and propaganda.
Is there evidence that proves Trump is a racist in this propaganda?
its Trump himself.
This is an allegation. An allegation in itself is not evidence that proves Trump is a racist.
video recording of Trump saying racist things is not an allegation.
video recording of Trump saying racist things is evidence.
If Trump said something racist, post it here. Wrap quote marks around what he really did say. If it really is a racist comment, I will vet it by following a link. Posting a link to where you want the evidence to be is not actual evidence. Quote it here for the world to see.
the twitter link is not rendering for you?
As you know, President Trump loves New York as much as he loves America.
Your post is bogus. At the time Trump took out that ad and made those statements the Central Park Five had been arrested, tried, and convicted which highlighted the crime wave in New York. New York was fed up. They had 1,896 murders the year of that assault.
Using that as an indication that President Trump is racist is just plain foolish and confirmation that you have nothing and are grasping at straws.
What did Trump say after they were exonerated?
Trump doesn't apologize to Central Park Five: 'You have people on both sides of that'
"You have people on both sides of that," Trump told reporters, but he did not apologize for taking out an ad calling for the teenagers' executions.www.usatoday.com
The CP5 thing doesn't belong in this thread unless you can produce some evidence that proves that any of Trump's actions or words were racially motivated as opposed to being motivated by disgust for the alleged crime/s.
The poster that I answered asked "what Trump said after they were exonerated", and I answered her.
It is in the link.
However, just to play the devils advocate, if the previous POTUS had made similar remarks that
the soon to be former one has, would you perceive HIM to be racist?
Just curious.
Racism is one of my favorite topics to discuss. One of my passions is differentiating actual racism from the political weapon.
That's obvious. And "racism" is a multi faceted issue.
So, based on that, had the previous POTUS had made similar statements to some of those made by the current one, would you have perceived him as a racist?
Often, lefties will evade the topic of my threads by asking new questions, and then they will accuse me of evading when I don't answer their evasion.
First, your post suggests that you doubt or didn't understand when I said that I enjoy differentiating actual racism from the political weapon. This makes me wonder if YOU are able to do the same.
If the previous president made statements that were racist, I would call it racism. Perhaps you should post an example of what type of statements from Trump you are referring to.
I'm neither left nor right, and don't have any interest in engaging in what is obviously an intentionally circular(as the thread title proves) debate as to whether or not a soon to be former president is a "racist".
I asked you a very simple question which would tell whether you truthfully, as you claim,
"enjoy differentiating actual racism from the political weapon", or if you are just a partisan Trump defender.
Which do you think it is?
Do you have evidence that proves Trump is a racist? Thats what this thread is about. Start a new thread with your topic, and I will post in it.
You made a statement that you "enjoy differentiating actual racism from the political weapon".
The question asked of you related to your above statement.
So it appears that you agree that this thread is an example of a circular discussion.
Since your thread title is:
"Trump is Not a Racist", you obviously had established your position before anyone even replied.
Here is the opening post where I asserted that Trump is not a racist, and then challenged you to show me otherwise:
"I have never read or heard anything that Trump has ever said that is racist, yet I have seen lefties imply that he is. I assert that Trump is not a racist, but I will retract this if somebody could post a link to an actual quote of Trump saying something racist. I have seen plenty of allegations that Trump said things that are racist, but never an actual verifiable legitimate quote. Anybody got a link to such a quote?"
Well, that is the basis of a circular, partisan argument.
Perhaps you should identify some examples of what YOU believe to be racist statements.
Until you do, it is obvious that you will just claim that any example that anyone provides, will result in you dismissing it because it does not align with whatever your criteria is.
My criteria is simple. Exclude allegations, gish gallop, secondhand quotes, dismissed cases, and propaganda, since these items are not evidence that proves he is a racist. Obviously, racism must include race.
What you seem not to get is that racism is whatever leftwingers say it is....they need no evidence....they just need for the party to cling together and keep supporting the party line....ya remember how in Stalinist Russia there was a 'party line' and no one dare deviate from it.
Thus with the democrats control of the msm their propaganda is spread all over the nation and since most folks get their news from the msm....the propaganda prevails...not even to mention how the entertainment industry is also controlled by the propagandists...so where can the American People go to hear the truth?
That doesn't make sense. Anything that anyone presents, you could easily dismiss as any of the above "items" that you listed.
What would you consider to be a racist statement?
Surely you can provide one example? Or are you just playing a bait game?
Is there some reason why you would consider allegations, dismissed cases, secondhand quotes, gish gallop, or propaganda as evidence?
Why don’t you just give an example of what you consider racist?
Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. When lefties start looking for "my definition" of what racism is, it means that they can't find any racism to quote. At this point, lefties begin to look for ways to take the race out of racism. Lefties are hunting for a way to paint Trump is a racist, so once they can't find any, they look for ways to redefine racism. Perhaps if there if there is some flaw in how I see racism, the whole thread gets discredited, right? I've been doing this thread on many boards for many years, so I know all the lefty tricks.
Freedom vs communism. There were only two ways to vote. We can catch up on this discussion on some other thread. I like to keep this thread about evidence that proves Trump is a racist, and I like to hold the lefty feet to the fire.There is something wrong with your quoting in your posts.Aren't you a lefty?katsteve2012
This part of your post looks like we can commence the racism semantics battle:
"I have no reason or time to "redefine racism", there are a plethora of books, articles, and opinions(right here in this forum out there on the subject that address it in far greater depth than just " race being the determinant in inherent inferiority or superiority"
You say you have no reason to redefine racism, yet here we are in a thread where every lefty dreams of showing that Trump is a racist and nobody can post evidence of Trump being a racist. That is a YUUUGE reason to redefine racism, or to twist the various contexts into some way where Trump can be shown to be a racist. Obviously, if there is no evidence that proves Trump thinks one race is superior to another, the only option is to move on from the basic meaning of the word, and on to any context that doesn't involve the 5 races recognized by the US census.
An example that I would accept would be a firsthand quote of Trump saying he doesn't want black people counting his money, or a quote of him saying that he doesn't want black people renting his apartments. I'd also think it is racist if he said he wanted the CP5 to get the death penalty since they are black.
Fine. Those are reasons. And why are you continuing to insist that I want to "show Trump as a racist"? What's the point of doing so?
Neither left nor right.
Neither left nor right sounds slippery, since lefties dodge and evade. My commie radar isn't perfect, but I'm suspicious of you. I'll keep my eye out, maybe you are correct.
Neither left nor right means that I have so little faith in both political parties and their so called leadership, that I have no loyalty to either party. Outside of local elections and initiatives in my city, I don't pay much attention to the circus at the federal level. That should be easy to understand.
As far as " your commie radar".....that's hilarious.
Lefties are the ones who think parties determine lefty or righty. There are only two sides to the political war that defines the current political landscape, and I suspect that we are not on the same side.
And what "sides" are those?
racism is whatever leftwingers say it is....they need no evidence....they just need for the party to cling together and keep supporting the party line....ya remember how in Stalinist Russia there was a 'party line' and no one dare deviate from it.
Thus with the democrats control of the msm their propaganda is spread all over the nation and since most folks get their news from the msm....the propaganda prevails...not even to mention how the entertainment industry is also controlled by the propagandists...so where can the American People go to hear the truth?
Political Correctness rules....even in academia...it has spread across the nation in the past few decades...thus in reality what we have is a totolitarian system of political correctness....anyone who resists P.C. is declared a racist, a bigot and demonized.
We still have a few dissenters(Trump being one) but they are rapidly disappearing most fall in line and go along to get along.
Trump did not fall in line and that is why they hate him so intensely.
Great stuff, true for most lefty agenda. They are doing something dangerous right now with mask culture and racism.