Trump is DOWN... CNN-16.... WSJ/NBC-14.... Rasmussen-12... FOX-10... Real Clear Politics-9.7

[Bush92]

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did.

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did and Trump leading in Florida,Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, and North Carolina right now.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did.

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did and Trump leading in Florida,Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, and North Carolina right now.

Do tell? Links? To this lead? Or is this one of those 'have to squint to see it' kind of things..LOL!~

 

[Bush92]

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did.

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did and Trump leading in Florida,Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, and North Carolina right now.

Do tell? Links? To this lead? Or is this one of those 'have to squint to see it' kind of things..LOL!~

See my new post and weep.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did.

Ad the trends are dropping Not improving.
He's falling much faster than his fever.
Doubling his deficit in near all the polls over the last few weeks.

`

Trafalgar Group had the most accurate polls in 2016 and predicted a Trump victory. They have Trump ahead in Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The polls you are referring to are mostly media polls and they don't post the actual poll and the methodology.

Trafalgar Group fudges their numbers because they think Republicans lie

They were the only polling group that predicted a Trump victory in 2016. Politico (not exactly a conservative media operation) praised Trafalgar for having a unique method for finding "hidden Trump supporters. Be prepared to scream at the sky again November 3rd.

Trafalgar did not predict 2016 election. He polled only Michigan and PA.

They are currently showing Biden winning PA and WI, and dead heat in MI

Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Yes they did and Trump leading in Florida,Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, and North Carolina right now.

Do tell? Links? To this lead? Or is this one of those 'have to squint to see it' kind of things..LOL!~

See my new post and weep.

Saw it...thanx for laugh...and i did squint..I promise.

 

[abu afak]

Nice attempted dodge. Just like in 2016 if Democrats have any hope of winning they have to employ every tactic in their playbook, from attempting to convince Trump voters there is no sense n them voting because Biden is going to win to Mail-In Ballot fraud. Same shit different election...same outcome.

Yup Real Clear Politics, FOX News, and Trump's fav Rasmussen, have JOINED THE DEMOCRATS!
(FOX! just announcing Trump went from 5 to 10 down.

Oh baby, you are ***** STOOOOOOOOPID... or more likely a DISHONEST partisan Freak... or BOTH.

`

 

[healthmyths]

Yup...and they're working like a charm!

Yup, just like in 2016.



In 2016 the propaganda just made Trump supporters that more determined to come out to vote. Hell, more Trump supporters show up to Biden rallies to heckle ths shit out of him than Biden supporters.

Not just like 2016 at all,,,but i understand your reluctance to leave 2016...and take a good look at 2020..and see that it is not the same, at all!

In 2016 the country had not endured 4 years of Trump, his lies, his corruption of the DOJ, his chronic Putin ass-kissing, a turnover in staff like no other POTUS in history, an impeachment and now a pandemic that Trump has failed miserably to control. Not to forget this blatant racism, dogwhistles to militias and white nationalists, and telling the Proud Boys to "stand by". He fucking wants to start civil unrest. He's fucking out of his mind.

AND...the economy is in the tank, worse than 2008, and we're still No. 1 in the world for COVID cases, 1000 dying every day.

THAT'S WHY you can't compare this election to 2016.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

We have seen this movie before... Gawd I hate reruns...

You Trumpees like to imagine that if Trump won in 2016, then therefore he can't possibly lose in 2020, but thats not a rational conclusion, that's just magical thinking.

National polling was dead on (+3% polling average vs +2% votes for Hillary outcome). This national polling was showing much better numbers for Trump in 2016 than they are now.

Rassmussen, a Trump favorite who he hailed as the most accurate in 2016 election, is showing him down by 12% to Biden after Trump's disasterous performance in the last two weeks. This same polling outfit was showing Trump and Clinton in dead heat around this time.

Perfect , moron democrats dont even have to vote since dementia china joe Biden is so far up leaving American's safe as they go vote for trump . Maybe the police will be allowed to vote if democrats are busy celebrating dementia joes victory and not throwing bricks at the cops....

Are you on drugs son?

No ! Are you blind and on liberal MSM?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

All these polls seem like so much flailing

 

[Mike473]

To believe that Biden could double the margin Obama beat McCain even though Biden has nowhere near the voter enthusiasm that Obama did, and McCain had no where near the support Trump has now, is quite a leap. Trump is gonna win easy. The media polls are lying to you.

 

[ColonelAngus]

No need to vote Dims. You got this.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We have seen this movie before... Gawd I hate reruns...

You Trumpees like to imagine that if Trump won in 2016 he can't possibly lose in 2020, but thats not a rational idea, that's just magical thinking.

It’s like drawing two cards trying to fill an inside straight in poker. It can be done but is not a strategy to expect to win very often

Trump has done NOTHING to expand his base.
Going all in with only Conservatives is not a winning strategy

Again, It's not Conservative. It's the Party of the Rump. Please do not drag us conservatives down to that level.

...all three of you.

Yup...and they're working like a charm!

Yup, just like in 2016.



In 2016 the propaganda just made Trump supporters that more determined to come out to vote. Hell, more Trump supporters show up to Biden rallies to heckle ths shit out of him than Biden supporters.

Wrong:

“Trump appears to have a ceiling of 46%: More concerning for the Trump campaign than a slippage in the polls is the very real possibility that he hasn't gotten higher against Biden than the 46% of the popular vote he got in 2016.

Trump's 45.6% average of the polls at the end of February was his peak against Biden over the last 10 months. What's more, in hundreds of surveys, Trump has only reached even 47% in a few.

The third-party vote share is likely to be lower: Roughly 6% of voters in 2016 voted third-party, the highest percentage since 1996. That helped Trump win the Electoral College. But the percentage of people voting third-party in 2020 this fall is likely to be lower for multiple reasons, including:

Biden is working closely with primary rival Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and has a better relationship with Sanders than Clinton did; The third-party candidates this time are less prominent and getting less attention than in 2016; and Perhaps most importantly, no one is underestimating Trump's chances as some did in 2016. Democrats see him far more as a clear, present and urgent threat who very well could win reelection.

People don't dislike Biden as much as they did Clinton.”

Why The 2020 Presidential Election Is Not 2016

With Joe Biden leading in the polls, Democrats are haunted by the ghosts of 2016 when Hillary Clinton led, too. But there are a few key factors that make this year's election different.

www.wbur.org

And this is from back in August – things have only gone downhill for Trump since then.

 

[rightwinger]

To believe that Biden could double the margin Obama beat McCain even though Biden has nowhere near the voter enthusiasm that Obama did, and McCain had no where near the support Trump has now, is quite a leap. Trump is gonna win easy. The media polls are lying to you.

Trump has extreme negatives that McCain never faced

 

[rightwinger]

We have seen this movie before... Gawd I hate reruns...

You Trumpees like to imagine that if Trump won in 2016 he can't possibly lose in 2020, but thats not a rational idea, that's just magical thinking.

It’s like drawing two cards trying to fill an inside straight in poker. It can be done but is not a strategy to expect to win very often

Trump has done NOTHING to expand his base.
Going all in with only Conservatives is not a winning strategy

Again, It's not Conservative. It's the Party of the Rump. Please do not drag us conservatives down to that level.

...all three of you.

Yup...and they're working like a charm!

Yup, just like in 2016.



In 2016 the propaganda just made Trump supporters that more determined to come out to vote. Hell, more Trump supporters show up to Biden rallies to heckle ths shit out of him than Biden supporters.

Wrong:

“Trump appears to have a ceiling of 46%: More concerning for the Trump campaign than a slippage in the polls is the very real possibility that he hasn't gotten higher against Biden than the 46% of the popular vote he got in 2016.

Trump's 45.6% average of the polls at the end of February was his peak against Biden over the last 10 months. What's more, in hundreds of surveys, Trump has only reached even 47% in a few.

The third-party vote share is likely to be lower: Roughly 6% of voters in 2016 voted third-party, the highest percentage since 1996. That helped Trump win the Electoral College. But the percentage of people voting third-party in 2020 this fall is likely to be lower for multiple reasons, including:

Biden is working closely with primary rival Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and has a better relationship with Sanders than Clinton did; The third-party candidates this time are less prominent and getting less attention than in 2016; and Perhaps most importantly, no one is underestimating Trump's chances as some did in 2016. Democrats see him far more as a clear, present and urgent threat who very well could win reelection.

People don't dislike Biden as much as they did Clinton.”

Why The 2020 Presidential Election Is Not 2016

With Joe Biden leading in the polls, Democrats are haunted by the ghosts of 2016 when Hillary Clinton led, too. But there are a few key factors that make this year's election different.

www.wbur.org

And this is from back in August – things have only gone downhill for Trump since then.

The lack of a third party candidate makes “none of the above” voters choose Biden or Trump

Also, the “I hate Hillary” voters have not substituted “I hate Biden”

 

[Mike473]

Hillary was a much stronger candidate than Joe Biden. In all honesty, Biden wouldn't have had chance at the Dem nomination if Hillary had decided to run. Sure, she had negatives. But, the people that loved her were very enthusiastic. Joe has never connected nationally with Dem voters like Hillary or Obama did in the past. I think Joe Biden is going to lose big. The polling companies will soon start tightening the race as they did in 2016. People voted for Trump. For Clinton. For Obama. Many that are voting for Biden are voting against Trump, Biden is just a figure head. That isn't great. We shall see tho. Only a few weeks away until we see who called this right

 

[White 6]

We have seen this movie before... Gawd I hate reruns...

Good, this one has a different ending.

Time will tell...

Polling in the battle ground states is toss up... All within the MOE(margin of Error) but now the polling on the economy is becoming more important as the president is living proof that the virus is beatable.. And that is a message of HOPE... Not the negative message of the democrats..

The pres is only living proof if cutting edge science, not available to the general population is used it is survivable. He would have proven something if he had survived with hydroxi and Clorox bleach.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The lack of a third party candidate makes “none of the above” voters choose Biden or Trump

Also, the “I hate Hillary” voters have not substituted “I hate Biden”

In 2016 there were also disgruntled Democrats who supported Sanders who refused to vote for Clinton – perhaps not many, but enough to give Trump those tiny, razor-thin majorities in just enough swing states.

That’s not in play in 2020.

 

[Turtlesoup]

We have seen this movie before... Gawd I hate reruns...

You Trumpees like to imagine that if Trump won in 2016 he can't possibly lose in 2020, but thats not a rational idea, that's just magical thinking.

It’s like drawing two cards trying to fill an inside straight in poker. It can be done but is not a strategy to expect to win very often

Trump has done NOTHING to expand his base.
Going all in with only Conservatives is not a winning strategy

Trump has done nothing to expand his base? More jobs than anyone else before the chinese virus, lowering medicine prices including INSULINE, not starting any new middle east wars--slowing bringing our troops back more alive, lower taxes about $2000 per Us Household on average, record stock market, making our supposed allies pay their own way instead of sponging off us so much, building the wall which cut the number of illegals and diseases coming in from south of the border, 3 Nobel Prize nominations including one for ISRAEL/PALESTIINE, got rid of the Obama health scam mandate, despite the virus and the dems purposely spreading it...able to keep our economy going, SPACEFORCE, rebuilding our military which means less attacks from our enemies, getting rid corrupt swamp members like Comey, Mueller, and others, and so muchmore

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hillary was a much stronger candidate than Joe Biden. In all honesty, Biden wouldn't have had chance at the Dem nomination if Hillary had decided to run. Sure, she had negatives. But, the people that loved her were very enthusiastic. Joe has never connected nationally with Dem voters like Hillary or Obama did in the past. I think Joe Biden is going to lose big. The polling companies will soon start tightening the race as they did in 2016. People voted for Trump. For Clinton. For Obama. Many that are voting for Biden are voting against Trump, Biden is just a figure head. That isn't great. We shall see tho. Only a few weeks away until we see who called this right

Spoken like a true Cult45. The ONLY Reason that Hillary got the nod for 2016 was that the real Heir Apparent just lost his Son and elected not to run. Everything you said above is just crap.

 

[AntonToo]

More jobs than anyone else before the chinese virus

You don't wtf you are talking about, we made way more jobs under Reagan and Clinton (esp if you adjust by % of total employment)

There were also more jobs created in Obama's last three years than in Trump's first 3.

And oh yea, after Obama's two terms we also managed to not have huge recession fueled by a badly mismanged pandemic by the administration.

 

[Billiejeens]

We have seen this movie before... Gawd I hate reruns...

You Trumpees like to imagine that if Trump won in 2016, then therefore he can't possibly lose in 2020, but thats not a rational conclusion, that's just magical thinking.

National polling was dead on (+3% polling average vs +2% votes for Hillary outcome). This national polling was showing much better numbers for Trump in 2016 than they are now.

Rassmussen, a Trump favorite who he hailed as the most accurate in 2016 election, is showing him down by 12% to Biden after Trump's disasterous performance in the last two weeks. This same polling outfit was showing Trump and Clinton in dead heat around this time.

He is up with AA, up with Hispanics,
He has proven that he will govern conservatively
He will lose no votes.

Baseless fantasy.

Nope