Trump is a Shameless, Anti Gay Bigot and this Crusade by His State Department Proves it

[beautress]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

Hell's bells, TPP! Why don't you just write up a new amendment to the Constitution that freedom of speech is denied all Republicans who occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lolol

 

[jackflash]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

This has been an ongoing problem. From a legal stance the State Dept. is correct(as law is written). It would most likely take an act of congress to have the existing law altered as the DOS(or any dept of the executive branch) is unlikely to do so(too politically sensitive).

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.​

How did Obama punish Iran for executing homosexuals? He gave them a planeload of cash.

Bullshit...

"There's nothing": Trump's global LGBTQ campaign is a whole lot of smoke and mirrors

Despite his rhetoric, the president isn't doing much to decriminalize homosexuality abroad.

www.motherjones.com

The initiative, which was rolled out to great fanfare earlier this year, is being run by US ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell. It has become a favorite talking point of younger Trump supporters as they seek to defend a president who has rolled back transgender rights and nominated anti-LGBT judges. Both Trump and his eldest son, Don Jr., have tweeted about it enthusiastically.

There’s just one problem: Activists and other sources deeply involved in the decriminalization movement tell Mother Jones that for all the tweets and publicity, the administration has done virtually nothing that is likely to produce tangible results. While Grenell, who is gay, has convened a handful of panel discussions with activists in Europe, the Trump team appears to have done far less on the issue than the previous administration.

In addition:

Problems with the initiative emerged early on. When NBC first broke news of its launch, Trump appeared not to know it existed. At some point, he did get the message and seemed to recognize the value of publicizing it.

Furthermore:

........“He thinks that he’s really good for LGBT rights and seems disconnected from the reality that his administration has consistently attacked LGBT people domestically, and hasn’t offered anything more than rhetoric for LGBT people abroad.”

So cut the crap already!!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

Hell's bells, TPP! Why don't you just write up a new amendment to the Constitution that freedom of speech is denied all Republicans who occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lolol

What the hell are you blathering about? Can you possibly present something resembling an argument?

 

[Turtlesoup]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

Isn't the birth mother the one considered to be the parent------------custodial parent and the child therefore gains citizenship through.


FYI, you are an idiot if you think trump is anything but pro-gay rights---he always has been... even well before even thinking of running for office.

You are the idiot! You are such a fucking idiot that I am not even going to try to explain why because you would not understand.

Surrogacy for gay men is now a common practice and the male donor is considered the birth parent

Obviously not----if the child didn't get automatic citizenship and an activist judge ordered it.

Here's the answer for you even you don't deserve it with your rude manners and foul mouth-------you really don't have the disposition to be around kids btw. You'd make a great nasty lib though....who doesn't bother to research before going on the attack. The Child may ACQUIRE citizenship if its biological father is a US citizen and has resided in the US for a certain number of years. Notice emphasis on biological as this aspect would have to be proven and ACQUIRE meaning that citizenship would not be automatic.


'As you might know, the longtime rule for overseas births is that the biological children of two U.S. citizen parents born outside the U.S. become U.S. citizens themselves, on condition that at least one parent has lived in the United States. (For details, see Citizenship Through U.S. Citizen Parents (If You were Born Between 11/14/1986 and the Present).)

Children born outside the U.S. who have only one U.S. citizen parent may also acquire U.S. citizenship if the citizen parent lived in the U.S. for at least five years and, if the sole U.S. citizen is the father, the parents were married or the father legitimated the child.

These portions of the law were, however, written decades ago, back when surrogacy and fertility treatments were less common and certain techniques were unheard of. The legislators never imagined various possibilities, in particular where no actual genetic relationship exists between parent and child. Nor did they imagine how many people could, through ART, be considered "parents" of one particular child. The technology can potentially involve up to five “parents” in a child's conception and birth: a sperm donor, an egg donor, a surrogate woman who carries the fertilized egg, and two nonbiologically related people who plan to actually raise the child.

In trying to match the old law to new technology, the State Department currently takes the position that whether your child becomes a U.S. citizen depends chiefly on the following factors:

• Whether the child is genetically or biologically related to at least one U.S. citizen parent, either through genetics or “gestationally,” meaning that the mother carried and gave birth to the child. If not, for example, if the parents arrange for a surrogate to carry a baby conceived from a donor sperm and egg, citizenship will be denied.
• Whether the source of the sperm and the source of the egg are married. If not, separate legal standards relating to “out of wedlock” births apply under Section 309(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.).'

 

[daveman]

My bad! Obviously you have superior knowledge of human sexuality, sociology, childhood education, and child psychology ...... and no doubt hold advanced degrees from the finest institutions of higher learning in all of those fields. You are so fucking impressive I just cant stand it. Thank you so much for setting me straight ( sort of speaking) We will be looking forward to more pearls of wisdom from you.

PS: You can wipe the spit off of your chin now.

Yes, I do have superior knowledge in many fields. And I do have advanced degrees, but my best knowledge is common sense, and my self taught ability of playing 4 musical instruments, all on a professional level.

You can now stop farting.

Music? L like music. Not sure if I would like your music though. So how does that qualify you to prattle on about child psychology, development and sexuality? Common sense?? Give me a fucking break already!

What are your qualifications?

A degree in social work and 32 years of working in child welfare and protective services, including foster care and adoption . What are yours?

Very good. I have no qualifications. That's why I've voiced no opinion either way on this issue.

However, I do have 20 years' experience in the United States Air Force. So I'll expect you to keep silent on military matters.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

This has been an ongoing problem. From a legal stance the State Dept. is correct(as law is written). It would most likely take an act of congress to have the existing law altered as the DOS(or any dept of the executive branch) is unlikely to do so(too politically sensitive).

Well a federal judge, as you should know, has a different take on it than you .

 

[beautress]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

Hell's bells, TPP! Why don't you just write up a new amendment to the Constitution that freedom of speech is denied all Republicans who occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lolol

What the hell are you blathering about? Can you possibly present something resembling an argument?

Your Thread name is unsupported by your blather, doll. Take that n that. N that.

You're welcome motormouth.

 

[protectionist]

Really??

Yeah, really.

 

[protectionist]

Oh shut the fuck up. ! I don't need a break from you and my sexuality is none of your fucking business , unless your looking for a date

If you don't want answers, don't ask questions. Now go wash out your mouth,

 

[protectionist]

You don't knw what the fuck your talking about! How is it a farce? Provide an example of a heterosexual couple who was treated this way.

You are expecting homosexuals and heterosexuals to be treated the same way ? This is the insanity that liberals have brought about.

 

[protectionist]

Not always. Geeezzzz what the fuck is wrong with you!??

He's normal.

 

[protectionist]

No, It is you bigots who forget that all of the time.

Once again I refuted the "bigot" notion quite some posts ago.

 

[protectionist]

A degree in social work and 32 years of working in child welfare and protective services, including foster care and adoption . What are yours?

Aren't you gay ? And if so, how could you be in child welfare and protective services ? Gays are one of the primary ones that kids need to be protected from.

 

[protectionist]

You are the idiot! You are such a fucking idiot that I am not even going to try to explain why because you would not understand.

Surrogacy for gay men is now a common practice and the male donor is considered the birth parent

That is INSANE. If it's true, it is a testament to how far we have sunk in this society.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

A degree in social work and 32 years of working in child welfare and protective services, including foster care and adoption . What are yours?

Aren't you gay ? And if so, how could you be in child welfare and protective services ? Gays are one of the primary ones that kids need to be protected from.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Gay Couple's Child Born In England Is A US Citizen, Judge Rules

The State Department was ordered to issue a U.S. passport for Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg's daughter, Simone.

www.huffpost.com

What interest do they have in pursuing this other than a wish to discriminate!?

Derek Mize and Jonathan Gregg filed a lawsuit in July 2019 after the State Department refused to recognize their daughter Simone as a U.S. citizen. Simone was born in July 2018, three years after the couple got married.
Both Mize and Gregg are U.S. citizens and are listed as her parents on the birth certificate, but the State Department treated her as if she was born outside of marriage, since only one of them has a biological connection to her, and that triggered additional conditions for the recognition of citizenship.

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

Isn't the birth mother the one considered to be the parent------------custodial parent and the child therefore gains citizenship through.


FYI, you are an idiot if you think trump is anything but pro-gay rights---he always has been... even well before even thinking of running for office.

You are the idiot! You are such a fucking idiot that I am not even going to try to explain why because you would not understand.

Surrogacy for gay men is now a common practice and the male donor is considered the birth parent

Obviously not----if the child didn't get automatic citizenship and an activist judge ordered it.

Here's the answer for you even you don't deserve it with your rude manners and foul mouth-------you really don't have the disposition to be around kids btw. You'd make a great nasty lib though....who doesn't bother to research before going on the attack. The Child may ACQUIRE citizenship if its biological father is a US citizen and has resided in the US for a certain number of years. Notice emphasis on biological as this aspect would have to be proven and ACQUIRE meaning that citizenship would not be automatic.


'As you might know, the longtime rule for overseas births is that the biological children of two U.S. citizen parents born outside the U.S. become U.S. citizens themselves, on condition that at least one parent has lived in the United States. (For details, see Citizenship Through U.S. Citizen Parents (If You were Born Between 11/14/1986 and the Present).)

Children born outside the U.S. who have only one U.S. citizen parent may also acquire U.S. citizenship if the citizen parent lived in the U.S. for at least five years and, if the sole U.S. citizen is the father, the parents were married or the father legitimated the child.

These portions of the law were, however, written decades ago, back when surrogacy and fertility treatments were less common and certain techniques were unheard of. The legislators never imagined various possibilities, in particular where no actual genetic relationship exists between parent and child. Nor did they imagine how many people could, through ART, be considered "parents" of one particular child. The technology can potentially involve up to five “parents” in a child's conception and birth: a sperm donor, an egg donor, a surrogate woman who carries the fertilized egg, and two nonbiologically related people who plan to actually raise the child.

In trying to match the old law to new technology, the State Department currently takes the position that whether your child becomes a U.S. citizen depends chiefly on the following factors:

• Whether the child is genetically or biologically related to at least one U.S. citizen parent, either through genetics or “gestationally,” meaning that the mother carried and gave birth to the child. If not, for example, if the parents arrange for a surrogate to carry a baby conceived from a donor sperm and egg, citizenship will be denied.
• Whether the source of the sperm and the source of the egg are married. If not, separate legal standards relating to “out of wedlock” births apply under Section 309(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.).'

See post 36

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Ἰατρέ, θεράπευσον σεαυτόν .

 

[Bob Blaylock]

See post 36

As always, referring back to a post that was bullshit to begun with, does not make it any less bullshit on being read a second time.

 

[protectionist]

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Trouble is, what I said WASN'T stupid, except to those brainwashed by the lunacy of the modern day left.