Mac-7
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best president ever!
Trump's immigration policies may put people at risk of coronavirus â experts
Surveillance in ‘sanctuary cities’ and increased Ice presence could deter immigrants from accessing healthcarewww.theguardian.com
I am in agreement with Trump on this, but for different reasons. He is using the lame excuse that he wants to save jobs for Americans when he knows that immigrants do the dirty work that lazy Americans won't do. He will try to make it permanent while farmers are destroying their crops that cannot be salvaged due to lack of help.
See post 276
Eh. That isn't gonna happen.
I’m sure libs will do their best to make sure of that.
But someday the welfare system will crash under its own weight and bleeding hearts will have nothing to say about it
I know it won't happen but it plays well with his followers, yes? Or he hopes that it does.
In my view immigration from Central America has nothing to do with bleeding hearts. If any of you took highschool
history, you would learn that we have some responsibility for the influx, as our governments have supported dictators
over the years in the name of oil, and the populace suffered and is still suffering as these dictators sucked up the aid
that we gave them for their people.
You mean, during the Cold War, when commie guerrillas were trying to take over nations to implement totalitarian genocidal tyrannies?
No, I mean exactly what I said.
But it was during the Cold War, and you didn't mention that?
That's like saying America is bad for dropping bombs on Germany, but not mentioning that it as during WWII.
Context matters.
We are discussing Central America, not the cold war. We are discussing aid and support for oil, not bombing.
Central American countries had internal strife and we supported the dictators.
While our enemies were supporting commie revolutionaries.
Do they have any responsibility for that? Or do you just Blame America?
I don't blame America. I said that we have some responsibility because we wanted their oil and didn't give a shit about anything else. They had revolution like in Viet Nam and you remember that, yes? We got our asses whupped.
You are certainly blaming America for the shit condition of Latin America, and your denial is not credible.
You are giving the Soviets a pass, probably because you are motivated by anti-Americanism AND you are just more sympathetic to communists than to your fellow citizens.
The point of all this is, that your reasons for opposing the ban on Immigration,
you won't admit.
No, I agree with the ban to protect us from the spread of disease and not to protect jobs as the excuse used by Trump. Farmers are destroying crops today because of a lack of help and immigrants are afraid to work lest they are caught and deported. And guess what? Your prices will rise for farm products.
The ban should be extended indefinitely and a small rise is farm products, if it happens, is a small price to pay.
Always a small price to you trumpers. I am talking about a large increase. U.S. made jeans cost upwards of $90 dollars today if you can find them. That is not a small price.
They dont have to cost $90 if there is a competative market
but why are they so cheap From china?
slave wages, no environmental controls, and other things that libs claim to be against
That is exactly why our manufacturing left the U.S. They were not competitive, and the unions kept striking for more money.
Why should Americans with a middle class lifestyle have to compete with slave labor in china?
will you be happy when more people join the welfare class so that you can buy cheaper bluejeans?
Wanna pay $90 bucks for jeans? In the 1980s an auto worker was paid $90,000 per year. No wonder the manufacturers left.
Again, chinese workers live in cramped dorms, with little pay and no retirement benefits
thats not the life I expect for Americans just so you can have cheap bluejeans
So buy American made jeans, yes? Nobody is forcing you to buy Chinese.
You said it yourself
”When you can find them”
I did not decide trade policy when clinton was presidet
nor under bush and obama who were both chinese flunkies
but with trump we have someone that is willing to stand up to china on trade
Nobody is a Chinese flunkie and Trump's boorish manner has chased our trading partners into China's lap, making China stronger and our country weaker.
boorish manner ??? we call it plain speak ! screw the china 1st America 2nd globalist snobs !
Really? "plain speak"? We are the ones who are getting screwed by Trump's "plain speak". He has been relatively unsuccessful because of his "plain speak". The idea is to get what we want in an acceptable way, and that can be done. Now, as our trading partners tilt toward China, we are on the outside looking in and his "plain speak"
will bite us in the ass as we become isolated and our cost of goods skyrocket. And guess who will be the first to bellow? YOU.
Any trading "partner" that is offended that we, as Americans, want more balanced trade, instead of letting them fuck US constantly,
is welcome to go have try to be China's bitch for a change.
The euros will be china’s bitch if they dont wake up soon