Trump has no plan: China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years

[Frannie]

The Chinese aren't going to be intimidated by a cartoonish man-child.

well what card does he really have to play?
we (America) constitute far too little economically for the Chinese to be concerned

He has limited options, but that didn't stop him from doing this.

He did what he always does: Identified a complicated problem and started beating on it with a stick.

The best thing we could do is separate the intellectual theft issue from the tariffs issue. We might be able to make some progress on tariffs, and that would take some pressure off. Markets would love that.
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You mean President Hillary has limited options...……………...for walking without a walker

What in the world are you talking about?
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China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

he he he

 

[Mac1958]

The Chinese aren't going to be intimidated by a cartoonish man-child.

well what card does he really have to play?
we (America) constitute far too little economically for the Chinese to be concerned

He has limited options, but that didn't stop him from doing this.

He did what he always does: Identified a complicated problem and started beating on it with a stick.

The best thing we could do is separate the intellectual theft issue from the tariffs issue. We might be able to make some progress on tariffs, and that would take some pressure off. Markets would love that.
.

You mean President Hillary has limited options...……………...for walking without a walker

What in the world are you talking about?
.

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

he he he

Ah, so Trump is in complete control here.


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[sparky]

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

link?

~S~

 

[sparky]

Is that why China is begging for an end now???????????????

seriously.....TDS ......Trump DELUSION syndrome....

~S~

 

[Frannie]

well what card does he really have to play?
we (America) constitute far too little economically for the Chinese to be concerned

He has limited options, but that didn't stop him from doing this.

He did what he always does: Identified a complicated problem and started beating on it with a stick.

The best thing we could do is separate the intellectual theft issue from the tariffs issue. We might be able to make some progress on tariffs, and that would take some pressure off. Markets would love that.
.

You mean President Hillary has limited options...……………...for walking without a walker

What in the world are you talking about?
.

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

he he he

Ah, so Trump is in complete control here.


.

Why would Trump not be in full control of what he negotiates or accepts.

Yup you got it, the dems know too, not sure why you can't see the truth.

Notice that Trump is not impeached

Whine on little one

 

[Mac1958]

He has limited options, but that didn't stop him from doing this.

He did what he always does: Identified a complicated problem and started beating on it with a stick.

The best thing we could do is separate the intellectual theft issue from the tariffs issue. We might be able to make some progress on tariffs, and that would take some pressure off. Markets would love that.
.

You mean President Hillary has limited options...……………...for walking without a walker

What in the world are you talking about?
.

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

he he he

Ah, so Trump is in complete control here.


.

Why would Trump not be in full control of what he negotiates or accepts.

Yup you got it, the dems know too, not sure why you can't see the truth.

Notice that Trump is not impeached

Whine on little one

Well, it's nice to know you have a vice-like grip on "The Truth".
.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump has no plan A, B or any other plan against China as the trade war is backfiring and will slowly envelop US technology manufacturers.

Huawei has already developed its own chips and software for its mobile phones dumping US chips and Google Android.

Donald Trump's attempt to obstruct China's technology and economic advance is backfiring as China is accelerating its technology evolution and is planning to become a leading nation in technology by 2030.

Advances come rapidly in China. The time between concept and market introduction of products is much shorter than the USA.

Amazing examples of tech innovation in China

... China is adding 9,500 electric buses - the equivalent of a London fleet - to its roads every five weeks according to a report from Bloomberg New Energy Finance.

It makes China far and away the leader in electronic public transit - with 99 percent of the world's 385,000 electric buses operating in the country. ...

China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years, strategist says

China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years, strategist says
PUBLISHED TUE, SEP 10 2019 3:22 AM EDTUPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Stella Soon

China will win the trade war with the U.S., and eventually wean itself off its reliance on American technology, a strategist told CNBC on Monday.

“China will never trust the United States again, and it will achieve its technology independence within seven years,” David Roche, Independent Strategy’s president and global strategist, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
China has traditionally been reliant on U.S. suppliers for key tech components such as chips and software, as well as modems and jet engines, but recent developments in the two countries’ protracted trade war have strained those ties and affected businesses from both sides.
It’s not just about trade. It’s about technology, it’s about the free flow of ideas, it is rapidly becoming about the free flow of individuals ... So it’s a really wide conflict, and it’s simply not gonna go away.
David Roche

In May, Chinese tech giant Huawei was placed on a U.S. blacklist, restricting the firm from purchasing American-made chips and software unless they got permission to do so. Some American mobile networks also use Huawei gear, while other U.S. companies have said their revenue will be affected by the blacklist.
Alphabet’s Google also halted all business activity with Huawei, a move that means future Huawei phones will no longer come installed with Google’s Android operating system.

Amid those tensions, China is reportedly surveying its tech companies to gauge their exposure to American suppliers, and also ramping up development in its own tech industry.

For instance, it is developing its own chip industry. Under the government-led Made in China 2025 initiative, the country aims to produce 40% of its semiconductors by 2020, and 70% by 2025.

Currently, only 16% of the semiconductors used in China are produced domestically, according to a February report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Just half of those are made by Chinese firms.
Roche predicted that the end of the trade war is not in sight, though talks are slated to resume in October.
That’s because the U.S.-China trade war isn’t about trade alone, he said.

“It is a conflict between a rising global power and a declining global power ... It’s not just about trade. It’s about technology, it’s about the free flow of ideas, it is rapidly becoming about the free flow of individuals,” Roche said.
“So it’s a really wide conflict, and it’s simply not gonna go away,” he concluded.

Amazing examples of tech innovation in China

In June 2016, Chinese president Xi Jinping outlined his vision for China to become the leading player in science and technology globally. Speaking at the national congress of the China Association for Science and Technology, he said the country must be on course to being a leading innovator worldwide by 2030.
According to a post on the Chinese Academy of Science website, Xi said: "Great scientific and technological capacity is a must for China to be strong and for people's lives to improve," adding that the country and even humankind "won't do without innovation, nor will it do if the innovation is carried out slowly."
Fast forward to 2019 and it's clear that the country is making technology innovation a major, major priority - having become a leader in quantum research, boldly challenging the USA in the supercomputer arms race, and creating its own successful space programmes. Zhejiang province where Alibaba is located just pledged a $17 billion commitment to driving technology over the next five years. And the country's startups scene is thriving.
Here are just some of the most amazing projects that have emerged from China in recent years:

Is that why China is begging for an end now???????????????

China’s position has not changed, they have always been willing to negotiate

 

[Frannie]

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

link?

~S~

The 8th grader who believes links prove something

PickBoogers.com - Virtual Nose Picking

There is your link, here is another

 

[Frannie]

You mean President Hillary has limited options...……………...for walking without a walker

What in the world are you talking about?
.

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

he he he

Ah, so Trump is in complete control here.


.

Why would Trump not be in full control of what he negotiates or accepts.

Yup you got it, the dems know too, not sure why you can't see the truth.

Notice that Trump is not impeached

Whine on little one

Well, it's nice to know you have a vice-like grip on "The Truth".
.

I have amnesia, so if you know how I know I would appreciate anything you can add

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump has no plan A, B or any other plan against China as the trade war is backfiring and will slowly envelop US technology manufacturers.

Huawei has already developed its own chips and software for its mobile phones dumping US chips and Google Android.

Donald Trump's attempt to obstruct China's technology and economic advance is backfiring as China is accelerating its technology evolution and is planning to become a leading nation in technology by 2030.

Advances come rapidly in China. The time between concept and market introduction of products is much shorter than the USA.

Amazing examples of tech innovation in China

... China is adding 9,500 electric buses - the equivalent of a London fleet - to its roads every five weeks according to a report from Bloomberg New Energy Finance.

It makes China far and away the leader in electronic public transit - with 99 percent of the world's 385,000 electric buses operating in the country. ...

China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years, strategist says

China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years, strategist says
PUBLISHED TUE, SEP 10 2019 3:22 AM EDTUPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Stella Soon

China will win the trade war with the U.S., and eventually wean itself off its reliance on American technology, a strategist told CNBC on Monday.

“China will never trust the United States again, and it will achieve its technology independence within seven years,” David Roche, Independent Strategy’s president and global strategist, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
China has traditionally been reliant on U.S. suppliers for key tech components such as chips and software, as well as modems and jet engines, but recent developments in the two countries’ protracted trade war have strained those ties and affected businesses from both sides.
It’s not just about trade. It’s about technology, it’s about the free flow of ideas, it is rapidly becoming about the free flow of individuals ... So it’s a really wide conflict, and it’s simply not gonna go away.
David Roche

In May, Chinese tech giant Huawei was placed on a U.S. blacklist, restricting the firm from purchasing American-made chips and software unless they got permission to do so. Some American mobile networks also use Huawei gear, while other U.S. companies have said their revenue will be affected by the blacklist.
Alphabet’s Google also halted all business activity with Huawei, a move that means future Huawei phones will no longer come installed with Google’s Android operating system.

Amid those tensions, China is reportedly surveying its tech companies to gauge their exposure to American suppliers, and also ramping up development in its own tech industry.

For instance, it is developing its own chip industry. Under the government-led Made in China 2025 initiative, the country aims to produce 40% of its semiconductors by 2020, and 70% by 2025.

Currently, only 16% of the semiconductors used in China are produced domestically, according to a February report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Just half of those are made by Chinese firms.
Roche predicted that the end of the trade war is not in sight, though talks are slated to resume in October.
That’s because the U.S.-China trade war isn’t about trade alone, he said.

“It is a conflict between a rising global power and a declining global power ... It’s not just about trade. It’s about technology, it’s about the free flow of ideas, it is rapidly becoming about the free flow of individuals,” Roche said.
“So it’s a really wide conflict, and it’s simply not gonna go away,” he concluded.

Amazing examples of tech innovation in China

In June 2016, Chinese president Xi Jinping outlined his vision for China to become the leading player in science and technology globally. Speaking at the national congress of the China Association for Science and Technology, he said the country must be on course to being a leading innovator worldwide by 2030.
According to a post on the Chinese Academy of Science website, Xi said: "Great scientific and technological capacity is a must for China to be strong and for people's lives to improve," adding that the country and even humankind "won't do without innovation, nor will it do if the innovation is carried out slowly."
Fast forward to 2019 and it's clear that the country is making technology innovation a major, major priority - having become a leader in quantum research, boldly challenging the USA in the supercomputer arms race, and creating its own successful space programmes. Zhejiang province where Alibaba is located just pledged a $17 billion commitment to driving technology over the next five years. And the country's startups scene is thriving.
Here are just some of the most amazing projects that have emerged from China in recent years:

/——/ Uhhhh...
US companies are canceling investment into China at a faster clip, survey shows
PUBLISHED 6 HOURS AGO

Evelyn Cheng@chengevelyn
CNBC.COM

• The American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai says its latest member survey shows many U.S. businesses in China are getting hurt by tariffs, prompting them to move more quickly away from the Asian country.
• U.S. firms in the mainland said restrictions to accessing the local market have also made it difficult for them to carry out their business, the AmCham report said.

 

[Mac1958]

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

link?

You've gotta be kidding.
.

 

[Frannie]

Trump has no plan A, B or any other plan against China as the trade war is backfiring and will slowly envelop US technology manufacturers.

Huawei has already developed its own chips and software for its mobile phones dumping US chips and Google Android.

Donald Trump's attempt to obstruct China's technology and economic advance is backfiring as China is accelerating its technology evolution and is planning to become a leading nation in technology by 2030.

Advances come rapidly in China. The time between concept and market introduction of products is much shorter than the USA.

Amazing examples of tech innovation in China

... China is adding 9,500 electric buses - the equivalent of a London fleet - to its roads every five weeks according to a report from Bloomberg New Energy Finance.

It makes China far and away the leader in electronic public transit - with 99 percent of the world's 385,000 electric buses operating in the country. ...

China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years, strategist says

China will win the trade war and wean off American technology in 7 years, strategist says
PUBLISHED TUE, SEP 10 2019 3:22 AM EDTUPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Stella Soon

China will win the trade war with the U.S., and eventually wean itself off its reliance on American technology, a strategist told CNBC on Monday.

“China will never trust the United States again, and it will achieve its technology independence within seven years,” David Roche, Independent Strategy’s president and global strategist, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
China has traditionally been reliant on U.S. suppliers for key tech components such as chips and software, as well as modems and jet engines, but recent developments in the two countries’ protracted trade war have strained those ties and affected businesses from both sides.
It’s not just about trade. It’s about technology, it’s about the free flow of ideas, it is rapidly becoming about the free flow of individuals ... So it’s a really wide conflict, and it’s simply not gonna go away.
David Roche

In May, Chinese tech giant Huawei was placed on a U.S. blacklist, restricting the firm from purchasing American-made chips and software unless they got permission to do so. Some American mobile networks also use Huawei gear, while other U.S. companies have said their revenue will be affected by the blacklist.
Alphabet’s Google also halted all business activity with Huawei, a move that means future Huawei phones will no longer come installed with Google’s Android operating system.

Amid those tensions, China is reportedly surveying its tech companies to gauge their exposure to American suppliers, and also ramping up development in its own tech industry.

For instance, it is developing its own chip industry. Under the government-led Made in China 2025 initiative, the country aims to produce 40% of its semiconductors by 2020, and 70% by 2025.

Currently, only 16% of the semiconductors used in China are produced domestically, according to a February report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Just half of those are made by Chinese firms.
Roche predicted that the end of the trade war is not in sight, though talks are slated to resume in October.
That’s because the U.S.-China trade war isn’t about trade alone, he said.

“It is a conflict between a rising global power and a declining global power ... It’s not just about trade. It’s about technology, it’s about the free flow of ideas, it is rapidly becoming about the free flow of individuals,” Roche said.
“So it’s a really wide conflict, and it’s simply not gonna go away,” he concluded.

Amazing examples of tech innovation in China

In June 2016, Chinese president Xi Jinping outlined his vision for China to become the leading player in science and technology globally. Speaking at the national congress of the China Association for Science and Technology, he said the country must be on course to being a leading innovator worldwide by 2030.
According to a post on the Chinese Academy of Science website, Xi said: "Great scientific and technological capacity is a must for China to be strong and for people's lives to improve," adding that the country and even humankind "won't do without innovation, nor will it do if the innovation is carried out slowly."
Fast forward to 2019 and it's clear that the country is making technology innovation a major, major priority - having become a leader in quantum research, boldly challenging the USA in the supercomputer arms race, and creating its own successful space programmes. Zhejiang province where Alibaba is located just pledged a $17 billion commitment to driving technology over the next five years. And the country's startups scene is thriving.
Here are just some of the most amazing projects that have emerged from China in recent years:

Is that why China is begging for an end now???????????????

China’s position has not changed, they have always been willing to negotiate

Like I said Trump agrees when the time is right

 

[sparky]

I have amnesia

yeah you need a checkup from the neckup pal......~S~

 

[Frannie]

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

link?

You've gotta be kidding.
.

Here you go

trump can't win rachel - Bing video

 

[sparky]

The American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai says its latest member survey shows many U.S. businesses in China are getting hurt by tariffs, prompting them to move more quickly away from the Asian country

And so what's to stop those globalists from simply setting shops up at the next 3rd world sweatshop?

Merely a decade after Clinton's nafta , Mexico was loosing out to India & Pakistan

sorry Cell, that bait/switch is old news

~S~

 

[Mac1958]

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

link?

You've gotta be kidding.
.

Here you go

trump can't win rachel - Bing video

See?
.

 

[Frannie]

China would agree to acceptable terms now, but Trump will not agree until a predetermined point before the next election.

link?

You've gotta be kidding.
.

Here you go

trump can't win rachel - Bing video

See?
.

trump can't win rachel - Bing video

 

[Cellblock2429]

The American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai says its latest member survey shows many U.S. businesses in China are getting hurt by tariffs, prompting them to move more quickly away from the Asian country

And so what's to stop those globalists from simply setting shops up at the next 3rd world sweatshop?

Merely a decade after Clinton's nafta , Mexico was loosing out to India & Pakistan

sorry Cell, that bait/switch is old news

~S~

/—-/ Nothing is stopping them, but it is more costly and inconvenient to do do, otherwise they would be doing it now.

 

[DBA]

Trump has no plan A, B or any other plan against China as the trade war is backfiring and will slowly envelop US technology manufacturers.

Trump promised us that "trade wars are easy to win". He thought he could just do his usual carnival barker routine and steamroll the Chinese, because he'll always be controlled by his narcissistic personality disorder.

The Chinese aren't going to be intimidated by a cartoonish man-child.

Still, I very much hope you're wrong. Maybe the people actually doing the negotiating for us actually know what they're doing. That's still entirely possible.
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What is your proposal? We should roll over and just forget any trade negotiation with China? Go back to the status quo? At some point one of our Presidents had to grow a pair and make China abide by the same rules as others in the WTO. Now is the time as our economy is stronger than them and we can hold out longer than they can. I would advise Trump to get some of the other countries with whom he has already reached trade deals, to join forces with the US against China. Unfortuantely, many of those countries are run by not-guts leftists, so not sure that is plausible at this point. China WILL give in if Trump is re-elected. They may save face in some way, but make not mistake about it...the US will be in better shape afterwards than it was prior to the negotiations.

 

[DBA]

The American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai says its latest member survey shows many U.S. businesses in China are getting hurt by tariffs, prompting them to move more quickly away from the Asian country

And so what's to stop those globalists from simply setting shops up at the next 3rd world sweatshop?

Merely a decade after Clinton's nafta , Mexico was loosing out to India & Pakistan

sorry Cell, that bait/switch is old news

~S~

Nothing stops them. We all know that many of the jobs and investment will go to other countries...countries that we either already have or will get better trade deals with. The US wins whether businesses invest back into the US or to another country other than China. Pretty simply really.