Trump Has A First Amendment Right To Say The Election Was Stolen

[jbander]

Well you are wrong, because all the Trump voter wants is freedom from the fascist left. The leftist guilt is eating them alive on these matter's, so they try to flip the script in an attempt to hide their bull crap. Not going to work, as to much has escaped out of the box, and the leftist are exposed big time in what they want, and have wanted.

What a mind , no liberal that I know of wants to destroy our country , constitution and democracy, you haters are alone in that thinking. You are nothing but a traitor, and from now on you will be known as a traitor.

 

[Flopper]

All true under normal circumstances, but was what happened anywhere close to "normal circumstances" or was the evidence real and therefore it brought about a serious constitutional crisis in this country, otherwise when it came to a supposed fair and good election result that may not have been fair and good at all ??

Not sure what you mean by fair. It was not a normal election and each state made election decisions to protect the voters and make sure everyone that is qualified to vote is able to vote and vote safely. When the election was held we had 65,000 in the hospital with Covid and about 20,000 in the ICU, businesses were close, schools closed, etc..... This was not the only presidential election that was surrounded by unusual circumstances.

George Washington was elected president and never campaigned because the people had no opportunity to vote.

After Thomas Jefferson and his running-mate, Aaron Burr, tied in the Electoral College vote, Jefferson was elected president by the House of Representatives even thou Barr had significantly more of the popular vote and electoral vote. However several electoral votes got mysteriously changed before the Electoral College met.

In the election of 1824, Jackson won both electoral votes and popular vote but because he had 3 opponents he did not have a majority so the election was decided in House. Adams, one of the candidates made a deal with Clay, another candidate and he threw his votes to Adams. The vote of 3 other representatives were purchase by Adam and Adams became president.

And there was the 1896 race between Republican William McKinley and Democrat William Jennings Bryan, in which Bryan roamed the country on a whistle-stop train tour, logging 18,000 miles, while McKinley — who apparently couldn't be bothered to travel — chose to stay on his front porch in Canton, Ohio and give speeches to delegates. Amazingly, the voting public was fine with that, and McKinley won. Supporters of Bryan could not believe the results. How could a candidate that did not campaign win the election. Like Trump, Bryan supporter demonstrated and call the election a sham. However, unlike Trump Bryan excepted the lost graciously and conceded the election.

Political reformer and newspaper editor Horace Greeley was the only candidate to be nominated by both the Democrats and the Republicans, yet he somehow lost to Grant.

There have been a number of other questionable elections but until Donald Trump, no candidate has ever claimed that the election was rigged and fraudulent. This may have been because the integrity of election process was considered far more important than winning an election. It was considered the heart and soul of American democracy.

The damage to our electoral process by the Trump false allegation can't be undone. The real loser in the 2020 election is not Trump but the faith in our electoral system.

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[beagle9]

What a mind , no liberal that I know of wants to destroy our country , constitution and democracy, you haters are alone in that thinking. You are nothing but a traitor, and from now on you will be known as a traitor.

Like I said "FLIP THE SCRIPT".... That's what you all are known for from now on you leftist trickster's. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows the games you all have been playing, now it's push back time. You are the traitor, so don't try to flip it because it won't work.

 

[beagle9]

Not sure what you mean by fair. It was not a normal election and each state made election decisions to protect the voters and make sure everyone that is qualified to vote is able to vote and vote safely. When the election was held we had 65,000 in the hospital with Covid and about 20,000 in the ICU, businesses were close, schools closed, etc..... This was not the only presidential election that was surrounded by unusual circumstances.

George Washington was elected president and never campaigned because the people had no opportunity to vote.

After Thomas Jefferson and his running-mate, Aaron Burr, tied in the Electoral College vote, Jefferson was elected president by the House of Representatives even thou Barr had significantly more of the popular vote and electoral vote. However several electoral votes got mysteriously changed before the Electoral College met.

In the election of 1824, Jackson won both electoral votes and popular vote but because he had 3 opponents he did not have a majority so the election was decided in House. Adams, one of the candidates made a deal with Clay, another candidate and he threw his votes to Adams. The vote of 3 other representatives were purchase by Adam and Adams became president.

And there was the 1896 race between Republican William McKinley and Democrat William Jennings Bryan, in which Bryan roamed the country on a whistle-stop train tour, logging 18,000 miles, while McKinley — who apparently couldn't be bothered to travel — chose to stay on his front porch in Canton, Ohio and give speeches to delegates. Amazingly, the voting public was fine with that, and McKinley won. Supporters of Bryan could not believe the results. How could a candidate that did not campaign win the election. Like Trump, Bryan supporter demonstrated and call the election a sham. However, unlike Trump Bryan excepted the lost graciously and conceded the election.

Political reformer and newspaper editor Horace Greeley was the only candidate to be nominated by both the Democrats and the Republicans, yet he somehow lost to Grant.

There have been a number of other questionable elections but until Donald Trump, no candidate has ever claimed that the election was rigged and fraudulent. This may have been because the integrity of election process was considered far more important than winning an election. It was considered the heart and soul of American democracy.

The damage to our electoral process by the Trump false allegation can't be undone. The real loser in the 2020 election is not Trump but the faith in our electoral system.

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You can't prove it was a false allegation, yet here you are stating it as fact. The same thing you are accusing Trump of you are also guilty of, and without a full blown court proceeding where both sides are represented fairly, the nation will never know the truth will it ? Now it is learned to everyone's shock (but not really), that the FBI and the DOJ are alledgedly on the take. So if they are on the take, then it's no stretch to believe that the court's failed us when it came down to getting at the truth.

 

[Faun]

Like I said "FLIP THE SCRIPT".... That's what you all are known for from now on you leftist trickster's. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows the games you all have been playing, now it's push back time. You are the traitor, so don't try to flip it because it won't work.

Fill 'er up.

 

[Faun]

You can't prove it was a false allegation, yet here you are stating it as fact. The same thing you are accusing Trump of you are also guilty of, and without a full blown court proceeding where both sides are represented fairly, the nation will never know the truth will it ? Now it is learned to everyone's shock (but not really), that the FBI and the DOJ are alledgedly on the take. So if they are on the take, then it's no stretch to believe that the court's failed us when it came down to getting at the truth.

Great, according to you, Hillary won the 2016 election since Trump cheated and you can't prove he didn't.

 

[beagle9]

Fill 'er up.

I'm proud of being white just like anyone else should never have reservations about their skin color either you damned racist from hell.. No tears here boy, just pride and truth in knowing how demonic you people truly are. Like I said "FLIP THE SCRIPT", otherwise you all like to yell whiteness, whiteness, whiteness, when the true racist race hustlers are you all.

 

[Faun]

I'm proud of being white just like anyone else should never have reservations about their skin color either you damned racist from hell.. No tears here boy, just pride and truth in knowing how demonic you people truly are. Like I said "FLIP THE SCRIPT", otherwise you all like to yell whiteness, whiteness, whiteness, when the true racist race hustlers are you all.

Suuure, snowflake.

 

[beagle9]

Suuure, snowflake.

Flip the script.

 

[Flopper]

You can't prove it was a false allegation, yet here you are stating it as fact. The same thing you are accusing Trump of you are also guilty of, and without a full blown court proceeding where both sides are represented fairly, the nation will never know the truth will it ? Now it is learned to everyone's shock (but not really), that the FBI and the DOJ are alledgedly on the take. So if they are on the take, then it's no stretch to believe that the court's failed us when it came down to getting at the truth.

If you're not convince by the following, I sure can't: recounts in the states, 46 court cases Trump has lost, the FBI investigation, the investigation of the boards of elections in all battleground states, testimonies of Trump Aids, testimony of Trump's Attorney General, Testimony of current Attorney General, testimony of the Director of FBI, testimony of Trump's Campaign Manager, National Academy of Science investigation of voting machine fraud, Voter Fraud Investigation by the Georgia Secretary of State, Investigation by the Arizona Attorney General, etc.....

 

[Faun]

If you're not convince by following, I sure can't: recounts in the states, 46 court cases Trump has lost, the FBI investigation, the investigation of the boards of elections in all battleground states, testimonies of Trump Aids, testimony of Trump's Attorney General, Testimony of current Attorney General, testimony of the Director of FBI, testimony of Trump's Campaign Manager, National Academy of Science investigation of voting machine fraud, Voter Fraud Investigation by the Georgia Secretary of State, Investigation by the Arizona Attorney General, etc.....

You don't understand.

the Department of Justice can't be trusted ...voters can’t be trusted ... the poll workers can’t be trusted ... the voting machines can’t be trusted ... the canvasing boards can't be trusted ... the recounts can't be trusted ... the audits can't be trusted ... Democrats can't be trusted ... Republicans can't be trusted ... the media can’t be trusted ... the news can't be trusted ... Sydney Powell can't be trusted ... Lin Wood can't be trusted ... William Barr can’t be trusted ... Christopher Wray can't be trusted ... the guy who was in charge of election security can’t be trusted ... Georgia's Republican Secretary of State can't be trusted ... Gabriel Sterling, his Republican COO and Trump voter, can't be trusted ... the Republican-led Maricopa board of elections can't be trusted ... the Racine board of elections can't be trusted ... Mike Pence can't be trusted ... the pillow guy can't be trusted ... Cyber Ninja's can't be trusted ... the Arizona audit can't be trusted ... the Wisconsin audit can't be trusted ... the Wisconsin Attorney General can't be trusted ... state authorities can't be trusted ... the lower courts can’t be trusted ... the appellate courts can’t be trusted ... the Supreme Court can’t be trusted ... the United States Congress can't be trusted ...

But Donald Trump can be trusted.​

 

[beagle9]

If you're not convince by the following, I sure can't: recounts in the states, 46 court cases Trump has lost, the FBI investigation, the investigation of the boards of elections in all battleground states, testimonies of Trump Aids, testimony of Trump's Attorney General, Testimony of current Attorney General, testimony of the Director of FBI, testimony of Trump's Campaign Manager, National Academy of Science investigation of voting machine fraud, Voter Fraud Investigation by the Georgia Secretary of State, Investigation by the Arizona Attorney General, etc.....

The hatred of Trump showing all these people up, otherwise who had been absent and riding paycheck's along with screwing the American taxpayer for year's now, has caused a hellacious riff in the old status quo lifer's that had been compromised over the year's, and heck they weren't serving the citizen's in the capacities that they should have been over the year's anyways. Trump called them out on it, and they went berserk.

Why do you think that we are dealing with all the bull crap that we're dealing with today ? Don't say it's because of TRUMP, because there is no possible way that one man could have brought all of this on by himself, but that's exactly what you and other's want everyone to believe, because as ridiculous as the leftist are about Trump, they should realize that they are seen right through concerning their overall agenda's in which they are using Trump as a cover for.

 

[beagle9]

You don't understand.

the Department of Justice can't be trusted ...voters can’t be trusted ... the poll workers can’t be trusted ... the voting machines can’t be trusted ... the canvasing boards can't be trusted ... the recounts can't be trusted ... the audits can't be trusted ... Democrats can't be trusted ... Republicans can't be trusted ... the media can’t be trusted ... the news can't be trusted ... Sydney Powell can't be trusted ... Lin Wood can't be trusted ... William Barr can’t be trusted ... Christopher Wray can't be trusted ... the guy who was in charge of election security can’t be trusted ... Georgia's Republican Secretary of State can't be trusted ... Gabriel Sterling, his Republican COO and Trump voter, can't be trusted ... the Republican-led Maricopa board of elections can't be trusted ... the Racine board of elections can't be trusted ... Mike Pence can't be trusted ... the pillow guy can't be trusted ... Cyber Ninja's can't be trusted ... the Arizona audit can't be trusted ... the Wisconsin audit can't be trusted ... the Wisconsin Attorney General can't be trusted ... state authorities can't be trusted ... the lower courts can’t be trusted ... the appellate courts can’t be trusted ... the Supreme Court can’t be trusted ... the United States Congress can't be trusted ...​

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But Donald Trump can be trusted.​

Just break it down by following the evidence.

By not following the evidence properly, it has led to the mistrusting of the very people and institutions you mentioned above in degree of. Not everything is untrustworthy, but the right element's defiling the institution's within, and the crazy radicals doing their crazy without is all it takes to undermine an entire nation, and then cause that Nation to turn on it's own citizen's. Congrats.

 

[Faun]

Just break it down by following the evidence.

By not following the evidence properly, it has led to the mistrusting of the very people and institutions you mentioned above in degree of. Not everything is untrustworthy, but the right element's defiling the institution's within, and the crazy radicals doing their crazy without is all it takes to undermine an entire nation, and then cause that Nation to turn on it's own citizen's. Congrats.

LOL

If you were normal and if you actually followed the evidence, you'd admit there was no widespread fraud which would have altered the outcome of the election.

 

[beagle9]

LOL

If you were normal and if you actually followed the evidence, you'd admit there was no widespread fraud which would have altered the outcome of the election.

If you weren't hiding something, then you wouldn't have put the cart before the horse, and you would have waited for it all to play out.

But nope, you jumped on the street mob train in hopes to get at the Republican conservative platform by way of Donald Trump in hopes to bring it down with him.

 

[Faun]

If you weren't hiding something, then you wouldn't have put the cart before the horse, and you would have waited for it all to play out.

But nope, you jumped on the street mob train in hopes to get at the Republican conservative platform by way of Donald Trump in hopes to bring it down with him.

There's nothing left to play out. It's going on e years since the election and there's no more proof now than there was then. Because as Trump's own Attorney General said, “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” You're destroying this country because rightards would rather see this country go down the toilet than watch Democrats win another election. But again, You're not normal.

 

[beagle9]

There's nothing left to play out. It's going on e years since the election and there's no more proof now than there was then. Because as Trump's own Attorney General said, “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” You're destroying this country because rightards would rather see this country go down the toilet than watch Democrats win another election. But again, You're not normal.

Flipping the script eh ?.. Leftist tactic. The country knows who it is that is not normal, and the Republican conservative platform doesn't fit that bill or profile, so who does that leave ? The Democrat's for sure.

Grandeur of illusions are a trademark of the Democrat party at this junction in time.

 

[Flopper]

The hatred of Trump showing all these people up, otherwise who had been absent and riding paycheck's along with screwing the American taxpayer for year's now, has caused a hellacious riff in the old status quo lifer's that had been compromised over the year's, and heck they weren't serving the citizen's in the capacities that they should have been over the year's anyways. Trump called them out on it, and they went berserk.

Why do you think that we are dealing with all the bull crap that we're dealing with today ? Don't say it's because of TRUMP, because there is no possible way that one man could have brought all of this on by himself, but that's exactly what you and other's want everyone to believe, because as ridiculous as the leftist are about Trump, they should realize that they are seen right through concerning their overall agenda's in which they are using Trump as a cover for.

Could be people hate Trump simple because he is a pretty hateful person; that is:
He’s can't lose with dignity but rather attacks our electoral system.
He considers himself above the law.
He gives millions to charities that not really charities.
He declassifies documents to save his ass with no thought to the damage it does to the country.
Black people hate him because he’s a racist.
Women hate him because he’s a rapist.
New Yorkers hate him because they’ve seen him up close for a long time.
Small Businessmen hate him because he cheats.
Decent people hate him because he’s a bully.
Honest people hate him because he’s a liar.
In everything he does he puts himself first.

 

[Lastamender]

Could be people hate Trump simple because he is a pretty hateful person; that is:
He’s can't lose with dignity but rather attacks our electoral system,
He considers himself above the law.
Black people hate him because he’s a racist.
Women hate him because he’s a rapist.
New Yorkers hate him because they’ve seen him up close for a long time.
Small Businessmen hate him because he cheats.
Decent people hate him because he’s a bully.
Honest people hate him because he’s a liar.
In everything he does he puts himself first.

What a bunch of garbage.

 

[beagle9]

Could be people hate Trump simple because he is a pretty hateful person; that is:
He’s can't lose with dignity but rather attacks our electoral system.
He considers himself above the law.
He gives millions to charities that not really charities.
He declassifies documents to save his ass with no thought to the damage it does to the country.
Black people hate him because he’s a racist.
Women hate him because he’s a rapist.
New Yorkers hate him because they’ve seen him up close for a long time.
Small Businessmen hate him because he cheats.
Decent people hate him because he’s a bully.
Honest people hate him because he’s a liar.
In everything he does he puts himself first.

All things never proven to break the law or were proven to be true. Like I said, without a court system where lady justice is truly blind, we get what we get "a double standard".