Trump had "nothing to do with Russia"

[mudwhistle]

Better relations with Russia is a wise thing to seek
This is still nothing more than a national temper tantrum carried on by a distinct minority who are governed by emotional addledness

Better relations is great...but not with a country that keeps acting like a foe.

When Russia is not annexing parts of their neighbors and propping up dictators in middle east, it is hacking political parties and spreading bs propaganda in Europe and United States.

Yeah....and Iran is our best its buddies.

Iran? Do you just reply for the sake of replying?

Sort of.

Trump isn't sucking any Russian dick like you might claim....not as much as Obama did concerning Iran, the biggest terrorist threat in the world. Not to meantion all of the terrorists he freed from GITMO who are back killing again.

Obama never sucked any Iranian dick, never praised Mullahs for being "strong leaders" and had plenty negative to say about that regime. At the same time he was looking to cut a deal to halt their nuclear ambitions, which he did.

He gave them everything they wanted, got sanctions lifted, and gave them billions so they could speed up their nuke programs. 10 years to help them rearm and become another North Korea. He haulted nothing. He shifted it into another gear.

 

[AntonToo]

Better relations is great...but not with a country that keeps acting like a foe.

When Russia is not annexing parts of their neighbors and propping up dictators in middle east, it is hacking political parties and spreading bs propaganda in Europe and United States.

Yeah....and Iran is our best its buddies.

Iran? Do you just reply for the sake of replying?

Sort of.

Trump isn't sucking any Russian dick like you might claim....not as much as Obama did concerning Iran, the biggest terrorist threat in the world. Not to meantion all of the terrorists he freed from GITMO who are back killing again.

Obama never sucked any Iranian dick, never praised Mullahs for being "strong leaders" and had plenty negative to say about that regime. At the same time he was looking to cut a deal to halt their nuclear ambitions, which he did.

He gave them everything they wanted, got sanctions lifted, and gave them billions so they could speed up their nuke programs. 10 years to help them rearm and become another North Korea. He haulted nothing. He shifted it into another gear.

That's the same bullshit Trump and Republicans were running on, but the election is over, they got full majority and Iranian deal was kept.

Guess it's not so bad after all .

 

[mudwhistle]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah....and Iran is our best its buddies.

Iran? Do you just reply for the sake of replying?

Sort of.

Trump isn't sucking any Russian dick like you might claim....not as much as Obama did concerning Iran, the biggest terrorist threat in the world. Not to meantion all of the terrorists he freed from GITMO who are back killing again.

Obama never sucked any Iranian dick, never praised Mullahs for being "strong leaders" and had plenty negative to say about that regime. At the same time he was looking to cut a deal to halt their nuclear ambitions, which he did.

He gave them everything they wanted, got sanctions lifted, and gave them billions so they could speed up their nuke programs. 10 years to help them rearm and become another North Korea. He haulted nothing. He shifted it into another gear.

That's the same bullshit Trump and Republicans were running on, but the election is over, they got full majority and Iranian deal was kept as is.

Guess it's not so bad after all .

Iran has already broken the deal.

A new report by the International Atomic Energy Agency revealed that Iran is in violation of last summer's nuclear deal. According to the report, the regime in Tehran has again exceeded the deal's threshold for heavy water, marking the second such violation since the implementation of the agreement in January. The Obama administration, however, has not called Iran's possession of excess nuclear-related material a "formal violation" of the deal, and has praised Iran for "acknowledging" it exceeded that threshold.

A State Department spokesman twice praised the Iranians on Wednesday for making "no attempt to hide" their excess heavy water, a material used in the production of weapons-grade plutonium. "Iran made no attempt to hide it, and they're taking immediate steps to address it," spokesman Mark Toner told reporters.

Iran Breaks Nuclear Deal, But the Obama Administration Won't Say It's a 'Formal Violation'​

 

[mudwhistle]

In what way does this mean Obama "Haulted" Iran's nuke program if they're messing with heavy water????

 

[AntonToo]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

This is by the way the extension of Trampian respect for Obama:

It was called bullshit by the agencies and congress, neither apology, nor substantiation of the claim ever followed.

 

[AntonToo]

Iran? Do you just reply for the sake of replying?

Sort of.

Trump isn't sucking any Russian dick like you might claim....not as much as Obama did concerning Iran, the biggest terrorist threat in the world. Not to meantion all of the terrorists he freed from GITMO who are back killing again.

Obama never sucked any Iranian dick, never praised Mullahs for being "strong leaders" and had plenty negative to say about that regime. At the same time he was looking to cut a deal to halt their nuclear ambitions, which he did.

He gave them everything they wanted, got sanctions lifted, and gave them billions so they could speed up their nuke programs. 10 years to help them rearm and become another North Korea. He haulted nothing. He shifted it into another gear.

That's the same bullshit Trump and Republicans were running on, but the election is over, they got full majority and Iranian deal was kept as is.

Guess it's not so bad after all .

Iran has already broken the deal.

Assertion doesn't contradict anything I said.

If it is SOO BAD, why are people that bitched to no end about are keeping it in place?

 

[mudwhistle]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

Putin has never said anything about Trump.
What would be the point of Trump cussing him out?

Trump always hits back when some cock like Paul Ryan or McConnell make a snide off the record remark about him. Usually it's in response to something like Sen Bob Corker saying he isn't fit to be president. Corker knows better, but he thinks it will ingratiate him in the eyes of our corrupt media. Putin hasn't said shit about Trump. He did kick a shitload of diplomats out of Russia.

 

[mudwhistle]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

This is by the way the extension of Trampian respect for Obama:

It was called bullshit by the agencies and congress, neither apology, nor substantiation of the claim ever followed.

Lol!!!!

Obama was spying on him.

He was spying on everyone, but a political opponent? Political espionage.

Just about as low as you can get.

 

[AntonToo]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

Putin has never said anything about Trump.
What would be the point of Trump cussing him out?

Trump always hits back when some cock like Paul Ryan or McConnell make a snide off the record remark about him. Usually it's in response to something like Sen Bob Corker saying he isn't fit to be president. Corker knows better, but he thinks it will ingratiate him in the eyes of our corrupt media. Putin hasn't said shit about Trump. He did kick a shitload of diplomats out of Russia.

Cussing? How about simply speaking HONESTLY about Russia, it's aggressive hostilities and semi-authoritarian regime? No cussing required.

To this date Trump dances around official findings of American Intelligence that it was Putin himself who directed hacking of American political organizations and individuals. Why the **** is doing that?

 

[AntonToo]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

This is by the way the extension of Trampian respect for Obama:

It was called bullshit by the agencies and congress, neither apology, nor substantiation of the claim ever followed.

Lol!!!!

Obama was spying on him.

He was spying on everyone, but a political opponent? Political espionage.

Just about as low as you can get.

Jesus you are a sucker.

Not a shred of proof has been produced to date, and that's from POTUS, who can declassify anything he wants to.

He was full of shit once again and you ate it up and still ask for seconds.

 

[mudwhistle]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

Putin has never said anything about Trump.
What would be the point of Trump cussing him out?

Trump always hits back when some cock like Paul Ryan or McConnell make a snide off the record remark about him. Usually it's in response to something like Sen Bob Corker saying he isn't fit to be president. Corker knows better, but he thinks it will ingratiate him in the eyes of our corrupt media. Putin hasn't said shit about Trump. He did kick a shitload of diplomats out of Russia.

Cussing? How about simply speaking HONESTLY about Russia, it's aggressive hostilities and semi-authoritarian regime? No cussing required.

To this date Trump dances around official findings of American Intelligence the fact that it was Russians who hacked DNC. Why the **** is doing that?

If you say so.
I don't think he does.
And it isn't a fact that Russia hacked the DNC.

The DNC was hacked by a couple of Pakistani IT guys that worked for DebbyBlabbermouth Shitz.

The Very Strange Indictment of Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s IT Scammers

 

[AntonToo]

Mudwhistle you seriouslydo not find it odd that for all the mouthing off about EVERYONE and their mother Trump never once had anything negative to say about Putin and his regime?

He trashed our NATO allies left and right, but when it came to Kremlin it's all about how Putin is a strong leader.

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

Putin has never said anything about Trump.
What would be the point of Trump cussing him out?

Trump always hits back when some cock like Paul Ryan or McConnell make a snide off the record remark about him. Usually it's in response to something like Sen Bob Corker saying he isn't fit to be president. Corker knows better, but he thinks it will ingratiate him in the eyes of our corrupt media. Putin hasn't said shit about Trump. He did kick a shitload of diplomats out of Russia.

Cussing? How about simply speaking HONESTLY about Russia, it's aggressive hostilities and semi-authoritarian regime? No cussing required.

To this date Trump dances around official findings of American Intelligence the fact that it was Russians who hacked DNC. Why the **** is doing that?

If you say so.
I don't think he does.
And it isn't a fact that Russia hacked the DNC.

The DNC was hacked by a couple of Pakistani IT guys that worked for DebbyBlabbermouth Shit.

 

[imawhosure]

I am sure that this thread will be combined with another....However, I could use an answer.....

Was Trump's attempt to build the complex in Moscow in COMPLIANCE or not with the sanctions imposed on Russia since spring of 2014?

You mean because you're spamming the board with multiple threads on the same topic? Is that why you're sure this thread will be combined?

Let me guess...you're one of those misguided people that think if you inundate the board with negative threads about someone that you can turn public opinion against that person? Got news for you, Sparky...anyone dumb enough to fall for that is probably too dumb to figure out how to register to vote. Just saying...

I agree Old, these far leftist, paid posters are pretty funny. I gave up trying to change minds here once it became obvious that there are maybe 4 far left posters, with 10 accounts each, lol. It is a group of 4, maybe 5, astro turfing, gaslighting, paid posters, so what is the sense of debating with someone who gets PAID to hold a position on an issue!

In all honesty, we are singing to the choir, except for those 4 paid posters or so, lol. (and 2 feeble minded mods) I was always taught to continue on with the debate, since you are really doing it for anyone who is listening, and not the far leftist who is trying to stop free speech. But, since the 4 paid poster leftists with multiple accounts chase people away by calling them names, there is really nobody else listening! Therefore, I choose to laugh at them............and make sure I try to not quote anything they say, to stop them from getting 1 red, capitalistic, cent.

 

[mudwhistle]

Sure:

"Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things. He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked. He has a total lack of respect for President Obama. No. 1, he doesn't like him and No. 2, he doesn't respect him."

What Did Trump Mean When He Said Putin Used the “N-Word” and Doesn’t Respect Obama?

​

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

Putin has never said anything about Trump.
What would be the point of Trump cussing him out?

Trump always hits back when some cock like Paul Ryan or McConnell make a snide off the record remark about him. Usually it's in response to something like Sen Bob Corker saying he isn't fit to be president. Corker knows better, but he thinks it will ingratiate him in the eyes of our corrupt media. Putin hasn't said shit about Trump. He did kick a shitload of diplomats out of Russia.

Cussing? How about simply speaking HONESTLY about Russia, it's aggressive hostilities and semi-authoritarian regime? No cussing required.

To this date Trump dances around official findings of American Intelligence the fact that it was Russians who hacked DNC. Why the **** is doing that?

If you say so.
I don't think he does.
And it isn't a fact that Russia hacked the DNC.

The DNC was hacked by a couple of Pakistani IT guys that worked for DebbyBlabbermouth Shit.

You can't argue the fact so you resort to sarcasm and ignore the facts.

 

[oreo]

waters is a ranking member on the house financial services committee, which is participating in the investigations into russia's interference. she has been privy to classified info.... & you aren't.

She also is a lying Democrat.
I hate to break it to you folks but we knew about Trump owning a multi-national corporation decades ago.
Just releasing shit about their considering building a tower in Russia isn't a secret.
And none of this is or ever was against the law.
This is just old news that the media is releasing that is intended to push their fucked up Russia collusion scam.

I don't think it was against the law to talk, I think it's just another piece of the Russian/Trump connection and possible quid pro quo.

Plus Trump lied about all of his connections....prosecutors and investigators take that as, having something to hide and will dig deeper.

No. It's a hypothetical based on a false narrative floated by Democrats perpetrated by the media. They're lying to you and trying to use unrelated situations to draw a false conclusion.

Whats worse is you dipshits are using a proposal that never became reality to base your arguments from. You have to read so much into your reference material and assume things that never happened for it to be even possible.

Never mind that you don't seem to understand how a large multi-national corporation works. Not every idea originates from the CEO. Trump's companies looked into building in dozens of countries. Russia was only one of them. They decided it was a waste of time, yet this allegedly proves colluding somehow. Grasping at straws much?

"Let's look into building in Russia!"
"Sorry sir, it doesn't make any sense!"
"OK, forget about it!"

This proves Collusion.

How dumb can you get.

Just answer me this mud,

why do you think trump lied about every single connection he and his son in law and everyone on his campaign team having any, even casual, connections with the Russians outside of his Miss Universe contest?

what is your logical reasoning on why Trump would lie on all of it? If it was "all nothing" and normal why did he feel the need to lie about it ALL?

what's your theory?

Y'all's hatred of Russia is pathological.

Yeah we Americans have a real habit of NOT trusting Russia. And we sure don't like Russian interests hanging out in the White House.

Vladimir Putin bombs Syria to uphold his dictator regime.
Russian involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia

 

[oreo]

I am sure that this thread will be combined with another....However, I could use an answer.....

Was Trump's attempt to build the complex in Moscow in COMPLIANCE or not with the sanctions imposed on Russia since spring of 2014?

You mean because you're spamming the board with multiple threads on the same topic? Is that why you're sure this thread will be combined?

Let me guess...you're one of those misguided people that think if you inundate the board with negative threads about someone that you can turn public opinion against that person? Got news for you, Sparky...anyone dumb enough to fall for that is probably too dumb to figure out how to register to vote. Just saying...

I agree Old, these far leftist, paid posters are pretty funny. I gave up trying to change minds here once it became obvious that there are maybe 4 far left posters, with 10 accounts each, lol. It is a group of 4, maybe 5, astro turfing, gaslighting, paid posters, so what is the sense of debating with someone who gets PAID to hold a position on an issue!

In all honesty, we are singing to the choir, except for those 4 paid posters or so, lol. (and 2 feeble minded mods) I was always taught to continue on with the debate, since you are really doing it for anyone who is listening, and not the far leftist who is trying to stop free speech. But, since the 4 paid poster leftists with multiple accounts chase people away by calling them names, there is really nobody else listening! Therefore, I choose to laugh at them............and make sure I try to not quote anything they say, to stop them from getting 1 red, capitalistic, cent.

Sweet baby Jesus--don't your "reich wing talk shows hosts" tell you anything?

Apparently not, because you Reich wingers don't know jack shit about anything.

The Trump team has been watched since 2015, and not by U.S. intelligence sources. Comey testified the U.S didn't jump into this until July 2016 which was at the RNC convention.
Comey: FBI launched Trump-Russia probe in July

They installed this clause into the RNC platform during the convention in July.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful.But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.

More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics

Just last month the DOJ forced Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign manager to register as a Russian agent.

WASHINGTON -- President Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, has registered with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for political consulting work he did for a Ukrainian political party, acknowledging that he coached party members on how to interact with U.S. government officials.Manafort says in a Justice Department filing Tuesday that his firm, DMP International, received more than $17 million from the Party of Regions, the former pro-Russian ruling party in Ukraine, for consulting work from 2012 through 2014.

Paul Manafort retroactively registers with Justice Dept. as foreign agent

Every time John McCain says there's going to be more shoes that are going to drop, someone gets hit in the head with a shoe.


This is turning out to be the greatest spy novel in the last 200 years.

"GCHQ irst became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said."
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia

Which is why Trump Jr. couldn't pull off a secret meeting at the Trump tower.


Which is why Shep Smith knew in February 2017 that Trump surrogates were not only on the phone with the Russian ambassador but also with Russian intelligence agents including the day that Russians hacked into DNC data bases.


YESTERDAY we learned of the planned Moscow Trump tower.

While Donald Trump was running for president in late 2015 and early 2016, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a massive Trump Tower in Moscow, according to several people familiar with the proposal and new records reviewed by Trump Organization lawyers.

Trump’s business sought deal on a Trump Tower in Moscow while he ran for president

This is just a few of the times Trump has LIED about it.





Which is why Trump is under investigation for Obstruction of Justice.
Wash. Post: Mueller investigating Trump for obstruction - CNNPolitics

Which is why Mueller has convened 2 special Grand Jury's and has beefed up on expert criminal prosecutors and money laundering experts.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller using grand jury in widening Russia probe
Top Criminal Expert Tapped by Robert Muller to Join Russia Investigation
Mueller’s staff grows to 13, with ‘several more in the pipeline’

You know it's one thing to be ignorant about something, it's quite a different circumstance when you INSIST on remaining IGNORANT.

For those of you interested in learning more about this investigation go to this link. (ignore the error message.) Trump half brains shouldn't bother--it's to complicated for them.
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Oldstyle]

I am sure that this thread will be combined with another....However, I could use an answer.....

Was Trump's attempt to build the complex in Moscow in COMPLIANCE or not with the sanctions imposed on Russia since spring of 2014?

You mean because you're spamming the board with multiple threads on the same topic? Is that why you're sure this thread will be combined?

Let me guess...you're one of those misguided people that think if you inundate the board with negative threads about someone that you can turn public opinion against that person? Got news for you, Sparky...anyone dumb enough to fall for that is probably too dumb to figure out how to register to vote. Just saying...

I agree Old, these far leftist, paid posters are pretty funny. I gave up trying to change minds here once it became obvious that there are maybe 4 far left posters, with 10 accounts each, lol. It is a group of 4, maybe 5, astro turfing, gaslighting, paid posters, so what is the sense of debating with someone who gets PAID to hold a position on an issue!

In all honesty, we are singing to the choir, except for those 4 paid posters or so, lol. (and 2 feeble minded mods) I was always taught to continue on with the debate, since you are really doing it for anyone who is listening, and not the far leftist who is trying to stop free speech. But, since the 4 paid poster leftists with multiple accounts chase people away by calling them names, there is really nobody else listening! Therefore, I choose to laugh at them............and make sure I try to not quote anything they say, to stop them from getting 1 red, capitalistic, cent.

As soon as they start calling you names, Imawhosure...you'll know that you've already beaten them! People with valid ideas on how to make things better argue those ideas...people without valid ideas...resort to name calling. When someone refers to you as a "Deplorable" or a "Reichwinger" or just labels you a "Racist" simply because they don't agree with your political agenda...it's telling! If they REALLY had a credible response to what you've put forth as a sane way to go forward...they'd give it. If their response is name calling? It's because they don't have anything else to contribute EXCEPT insults!

 

[Oldstyle]

She also is a lying Democrat.
I hate to break it to you folks but we knew about Trump owning a multi-national corporation decades ago.
Just releasing shit about their considering building a tower in Russia isn't a secret.
And none of this is or ever was against the law.
This is just old news that the media is releasing that is intended to push their fucked up Russia collusion scam.

I don't think it was against the law to talk, I think it's just another piece of the Russian/Trump connection and possible quid pro quo.

Plus Trump lied about all of his connections....prosecutors and investigators take that as, having something to hide and will dig deeper.

No. It's a hypothetical based on a false narrative floated by Democrats perpetrated by the media. They're lying to you and trying to use unrelated situations to draw a false conclusion.

Whats worse is you dipshits are using a proposal that never became reality to base your arguments from. You have to read so much into your reference material and assume things that never happened for it to be even possible.

Never mind that you don't seem to understand how a large multi-national corporation works. Not every idea originates from the CEO. Trump's companies looked into building in dozens of countries. Russia was only one of them. They decided it was a waste of time, yet this allegedly proves colluding somehow. Grasping at straws much?

"Let's look into building in Russia!"
"Sorry sir, it doesn't make any sense!"
"OK, forget about it!"

This proves Collusion.

How dumb can you get.

Just answer me this mud,

why do you think trump lied about every single connection he and his son in law and everyone on his campaign team having any, even casual, connections with the Russians outside of his Miss Universe contest?

what is your logical reasoning on why Trump would lie on all of it? If it was "all nothing" and normal why did he feel the need to lie about it ALL?

what's your theory?

Y'all's hatred of Russia is pathological.

Yeah we Americans have a real habit of NOT trusting Russia. And we sure don't like Russian interests hanging out in the White House.

Vladimir Putin bombs Syria to uphold his dictator regime.
Russian involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia

"Democrats are obsessed about Russia. It’s got to the point where some of them think that any meeting with the Russians is inappropriate. And yes, Democrats have lied about their own meetings with Sergey Kislyak. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) have said they did not meet with Kislyak, only to have pictures or past tweets confirm that they did meet him. During the Obama presidency, Sergey Kislyak met with the then-president 22 times. Are we going to have an investigation over that? Probably not—and I’m sure in both Sessions and Obama’s cases, nothing occurred. It was a typical interaction between a foreign official and a member of Congress that occurs daily. In Obama’s case, it was a meeting that comes with the job description."
Flashback: Russian Ambassador Visited Obama White House 22 Times

Funny thing about that, Oreo! The Obama Administration had "visits" from Russians all the time! Yet that was never viewed as something sinister. Why is it AWFUL for Trump's people to have contact from the Russians...but it wasn't awful when Obama's people had contact with them?

 

[Dim Bulb]

WTF? Trump was off his meds that day or something - no one knew what he is rambling about or where he was going with it.

Putin is a two bit oligarch who has been running Russia like a Czar for decades now with no real political opposition or freedom of press it requires, if ALL you can find repulsive about that aggressive regime is how they don't like Obama (who Trump bashed on the regular) then clearly there is something up with you well beyond normal American politics.

Putin has never said anything about Trump.
What would be the point of Trump cussing him out?

Trump always hits back when some cock like Paul Ryan or McConnell make a snide off the record remark about him. Usually it's in response to something like Sen Bob Corker saying he isn't fit to be president. Corker knows better, but he thinks it will ingratiate him in the eyes of our corrupt media. Putin hasn't said shit about Trump. He did kick a shitload of diplomats out of Russia.

Cussing? How about simply speaking HONESTLY about Russia, it's aggressive hostilities and semi-authoritarian regime? No cussing required.

To this date Trump dances around official findings of American Intelligence the fact that it was Russians who hacked DNC. Why the **** is doing that?

If you say so.
I don't think he does.
And it isn't a fact that Russia hacked the DNC.

The DNC was hacked by a couple of Pakistani IT guys that worked for DebbyBlabbermouth Shit.

You can't argue the fact so you resort to sarcasm and ignore the facts.

Pot. Kettle.