Trump EO on birthright citizenship would make Kamala Harris a noncitizen

[Care4all]

so if you see someone shoplifting and he leaves the store....no crime was committed?...

A crime was committed, but you're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. No one single person in this nation built on laws, is the judge, jury, and... executioner of another person.

 

[Harry Dresden]

A crime was committed, but you're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. No one single person in this nation built on laws, is the judge, jury, and... executioner of another person.

care if you see the person committing a crime,its a crime whether he gets convicted in a court or not.....

 

[Care4all]

care if you see the person committing a crime,its a crime whether he gets convicted in a court or not.....

Harry, there are rules that are applied...it is not when you cross the border outside of entry points, it is automatically a crime.

People who cross seeking asylum, meeting the preliminary criteria for asylum, are not criminals....not until they get their due process in an immigration court and a judge has denied them asylum.

Even then, they are not criminals....but can become criminals if they don't self deport, and find a way to avoid deportation....then when caught they get another chance to defend themselves of their misdemeanor charges of illegal entry or illegal stay... in a court of law.

And if convicted of the misdemeanor of illegal entry and are deported, if they are caught entering the country illegally again, they can be charged with a felony, and then they get due process again, and a day in court to defend themselves of the felony charge.

All those undocumented illegals crossing, or staying beyond a VISA time limit, have NOT committed a criminal offense, but are covered under a Civil Offense, our Civil Laws...with fines as penalties.... Unless they are also charged with a misdemeanor crime. Most are NOT charged with a criminal offense, and have only committed Civil Disobedience....they are NOT criminals....

This was all new to me....only through concentrated research did it become known to me...

And it is even much more complicated...there are parolee, and rules and regs for them, and refugee and rules for them, etc.

Putting everyone who crossed the border outside of entry points in to one big hand basket filled with criminals, simply isn't the actual case....

It's why there are a gazillion suits out there now, working their way through the courts.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Harry, there are rules that are applied...it is not when you cross the border outside of entry points, it is automatically a crime.

People who cross seeking asylum, meeting the preliminary criteria for asylum, are not criminals....not until they get their due process in an immigration court and a judge has denied them asylum.

Even then, they are not criminals....but can become criminals if they don't self deport, and find a way to avoid deportation....then when caught they get another chance to defend themselves of their misdemeanor charges of illegal entry or illegal stay... in a court of law.

And if convicted of the misdemeanor of illegal entry and are deported, if they are caught entering the country illegally again, they can be charged with a felony, and then they get due process again, and a day in court to defend themselves of the felony charge.

All those undocumented illegals crossing, or staying beyond a VISA time limit, have NOT committed a criminal offense, but are covered under a Civil Offense, our Civil Laws...with fines as penalties.... Unless they are also charged with a misdemeanor crime. Most are NOT charged with a criminal offense, and have only committed Civil Disobedience....they are NOT criminals....

This was all new to me....only through concentrated research did it become known to me...

And it is even much more complicated...there are parolee, and rules and regs for them, and refugee and rules for them, etc.

Putting everyone who crossed the border outside of entry points in to one big hand basket filled with criminals, simply isn't the actual case....

It's why there are a gazillion suits out there now, working their way through the courts.

you may think differently if you lived in S.California....

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The people being deported are illegal aliens. Deporting criminal illegals is indeed making America great again.

The dumb **** in the OP was talking about deporting Kamala Harris.

 

[Anathema]

That sounds like some cult talk there

What it sounds like is someone who is sick and tired of people thinking that being an American is a passive Right and shouldn’t require active participation in order to be properly implemented.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Hell - kammy is not black either as anyone can see. Her whole life is a fraud , but the media protects her since she's a dem.

MSN

Ooooooooooooo
Let's deport her

 

[Oswald Was Innocent]

Malaria was born Slovenia.

That isn't natural born.

She became naturalized before Baron was born. Therefore he was born to two US citizens. That makes him a natural born Citizen.

 

[Oswald Was Innocent]

The dumb **** in the OP was talking about deporting Kamala Harris.

She needs to be. She's not a natural born Citizen. She was born to two people who weren't legalized Citizens.

 

[Contumacious]

Ya might what to see what the Constitution says about ex post facto laws.

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In Calder v. Bull , a 1798 U.S. Supreme Court Case in which it ruled that the prohibition on ex post facto laws was only applicable to criminal - not civil - cases

Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. 386, 396 (1798)​

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

She became naturalized before Baron was born. Therefore he was born to two US citizens. That makes him a natural born Citizen.

WTF ?
Doesn't cut it under your dear leader's regime.

The Trump administration's next target: naturalized US ...​

The Hill
https://thehill.com › opinion › immigration › 4992787-...
Nov 18, 2024 — Individuals stripped of citizenship will then be subject to deportation along with Miller's other targets.

Immigration Lawyer in US for 24 Years Told to Self-Deport​

Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › immigration-lawyer-us-se...
Apr 25, 2025 — An immigration attorney and naturalized citizen in Utah received an order from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to self-deport from the United States ...

 

[Slade3200]

What it sounds like is someone who is sick and tired of people thinking that being an American is a passive Right and shouldn’t require active participation in order to be properly implemented.

It doesn’t require… that’s why we are a free republic and it a dictatorship

 

[OKTexas]

In Calder v. Bull , a 1798 U.S. Supreme Court Case in which it ruled that the prohibition on ex post facto laws was only applicable to criminal - not civil - cases

Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. 386, 396 (1798)​

Do you seriously think any court would allow citizenship to be revoked for a civil infraction? Get real child. Also I don't think one could be proven to begin with.

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[StatesRightsForever]

If one of her parents are black then she can claim to be both or stick with one. Her father was a black man so she can claim it.

He was not her birth father. Look at kammy. Nothing about her is black. Open your eyes.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

I'm pretty much speechless at this proclamation

HAHAHAHA. The board notes you have no refutation.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Ya might what to see what the Constitution says about ex post facto laws.

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Not much. Because my state enacted ex post facto laws and nobody said a word.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Harris is 1/2 black and 1/2 Indian. Affirmative Action doesn't work ike that. Millions of Americans have not done what you claim. Whites who have been given everything because they are white need to be quiet.

Harris does not look the least bit black, you moron. Anyone can see it. Her father was not the birth father.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Malaria was born Slovenia.

That isn't natural born.

And obama was born in kenya has he admitted in a brochure he had published for 16 years.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

People who cross seeking asylum, meeting the preliminary criteria for asylum, are not criminals....not until they get their due process in an immigration court and a judge has denied them asylum.

They don't want asylum, they want welfare. The asylum system needs to be ended totally.

 

[OKTexas]

Not much. Because my state enacted ex post facto laws and nobody said a word.

And you just sat back and did nothing? That's the way government erode freedom, the citizenry is asleep at the wheel or just plain apathetic.

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