Trump desire to suspend the Constitution is not a deal breaker to Republicans

[MaryL]

Is there anything Trump can say or do that IS a Deal Breaker to Republicans?

Trump's call to suspend Constitution not a 2024 deal-breaker, leading House Republican says

Dave Joyce said Trump's comment about the Constitution shouldn't be taken seriously but that it wouldn't lead him to pull potential support for Trump's 2024 campaign

abcnews.go.com

But Stephanopoulos pressed further, and Joyce ultimately said that Trump's comment should be taken "in context" but that it wouldn't prevent him from supporting Trump if he ends up winning the nomination.

You can't come out against someone who's for suspending the Constitution?" Stephanopoulos pushed back once again.

"He says a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that it's ever going to happen. So you got to [separate] fact from fantasy

I can't answer that. We DO have democrats actually trying to destroy the two-party system and remove check and balances. WHY? Democrats may be concerned with a lot of things, but fairness and impartiality aren't one of them. Name one country that had a one-party system that wasn't a fascist dictatorship. This is what democrats are pushing for. If you like a one-party system and you like democrats, think Mussolini. Think Hitler. Because that's where this one party democrat system is heading.

 

[Lastamender]

They weren't limited to showing evidence to other members of Congress, ya moron.

They couldwould have shown it to America.

You're out of your fucking mind, FruitLoops.

If there was an investigation they would have. But hey stupid I already told you that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Violating their oath. They did. FACT.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I can't answer that. We DO have democrats actually trying to destroy the two-party system and remove check and balances. WHY? Democrats may be concerned with a lot of things, but fairness and impartiality aren't one of them. Name one country that had a one-party system that wasn't a fascist dictatorship. This is what democrats are pushing for. If you like a one-party system and you like democrats, think Mussolini. Think Hitler. Because that's where this one party democrat system is heading.

Name the Democrats.
Name what they have done with links to destroy the two party system.

 

[Sixties Fan]

If there was an investigation they would have. But hey stupid I already told you that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Violating their oath. They did. FACT.

So, Mitch McConnel, Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, MT Green, Kevin McCarthy and others have not, what.....dared???? to say a word about it to any news outlet, radio, television or social media?

What exactly would they be waiting for? What has kept them for 2 years from saying it even amongst themselves, or start a committee to investigate it?

 

[j-mac]

Banning Military Assault weapons from civilian hands in NOT going against the Constitution. Anyone is still going to be able and allowed to buy any other guns they choose.

And there absolutely needs to be a background check, etc. Nothing to be against here.


The issue continues to be the NRA representing the gun manufacturers who want to sell the American public any and all guns they make in order to make more money.

Why are you for the Manufacturers making a ton of money out of some of the guns which civilians never had before and truly should not be having now, but do since 2004?

How are mass shootings agreeing with you?

Civilians can not buy “Military assault weapons”

 

[j-mac]

Vide the video above. You defend a mass shooting weapon way too much instead of wanting to see an end to mass shootings which these weapons do cause.

You want to end mass shooting? Address mental health.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Republicans are lining up to declare that THEY defend the Constitution
But refuse to condemn Trump for wanting to terminate it at his convenience.

Just terminate the Constitution and declare me President

And this sort of rhetoric from conservatives is yet another example of the right’s war on the Constitution, the rule of law, and our democratic institutions – to propagate lies about fraud and stolen elections intended to undermine the political process where voters abandon political participate perceived as beneficial to Republicans.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's kinda hard when the Potato-in-Chief has said shit like this.

"The idea we still allow semi-automatic weapons to be purchased is sick," Biden said. "Just sick. It has no socially redeeming value. Zero. None. Not a single solitary rationale for it except profit for the gun manufacturers."

and this
"I'm going to try," Biden said. "I’m going to try to get rid of assault weapons."

Critics erupt on Biden after ‘sick’ comment on semi-automatic gun purchases: 'Sheer ignorance'

Conservatives ripped into President Biden after he called semi-automatic gun purchases "sick" and reiterated his call to ban "assault weapons" in America.

www.foxnews.com

You and others on the right need to stop propagating this ridiculous lie.

No one is asking, telling, forcing, or demanding you to ‘give up’ your firearms.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You hate the constitution and you know it hypocrite... did the FBI break the rules in the constitution when they interfered in the 2020 election?....

This is a lie.

The FBI didn’t ‘interfere’ in the 2020 election.

Private social media aren’t subject to the Constitution or its case law.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

You and others on the right need to stop propagating this ridiculous lie.

No one is asking, telling, forcing, or demanding you to ‘give up’ your firearms.

"I’m going to try to get rid of assault weapons."
Joe Biden straight out stated that he was going to try and get rid of certain firearms. Of course you loons can never explain what an "assault weapon" is.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Civilians can not buy “Military assault weapons”

[Military Style Weapons]

AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are civilian versions of military weapons that gun control advocates say aren't very different. The AR-15, like its military version, is designed to kill people quickly and in large numbers, hence the term assault-style rifle, gun control advocates told NPR in 2018.May 26, 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting
In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles.

After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018.

Once the assault-weapons ban expired 10 years later in 2004, gun manufacturers quickly began production and sales rose.

​

AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are civilian versions of military weapons that gun control advocates say aren't very different.

The AR-15, like its military version, is designed to kill people quickly and in large numbers, hence the term assault-style rifle, gun control advocates told NPR in 2018. They say it has no valid recreational use, and civilians should not be allowed to own them.

(full article online)

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.

www.npr.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

"I’m going to try to get rid of assault weapons."
Joe Biden straight out stated that he was going to try and get rid of certain firearms. Of course you loons can never explain what an "assault weapon" is.

I just did

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

and suppressing bad news on the Biden's was election interference

Another lie.

The FBI didn’t ‘suppress’ anything.

How private social media edit their content has nothing to do with the government or Constitution.

It’s perfectly appropriate, warranted, lawful, and Constitutional for law enforcement to notify social media as to Russian misinformation/disinformation campaigns and attacks.

Lies about Hunter Biden were part of Russia’s effort to interfere in the 2020 election.

Social media elected to not accommodate Russian propaganda and misinformation voluntary, absent any interference or coercion by government.

You need to stop believing the rightwing lies you’re being fed; better yet, stop propagating those lies.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Second Amendment Does Not Guarantee the Right To Own a Gun (From Gun Control, P 99-102, 1992, Charles P Cozic, ed. -- See NCJ-160164)​

NCJ Number
160176

Author(s)
W E Burger
Date Published

1992
Length

4 pages
Annotation
Former Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Warren Burger argues that the sale, purchase, and use of guns should be regulated just as automobiles and boats are regulated; such regulations would not violate the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Abstract

The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees a "right of the people to keep and bear arms." However, the meaning of this clause cannot be understood apart from the purpose, the setting, and the objectives of the draftsmen. At the time of the Bill of Rights, people were apprehensive about the new national government presented to them, and this helps explain the language and purpose of the Second Amendment. It guarantees, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The need for a State militia was the predicate of the "right" guarantee, so as to protect the security of the State. Today, of course, the State militia serves a different purpose. A huge national defense establishment has assumed the role of the militia of 200 years ago. Americans have a right to defend their homes, and nothing should undermine this right; nor does anyone question that the Constitution protects the right of hunters to own and keep sporting guns for hunting anymore than anyone would challenge the right to own and keep fishing rods and other equipment for fishing. Neither does anyone question the right of citizens to keep and own an automobile. Yet there is no strong interest by the citizenry in questioning the power of the State to regulate the purchase or the transfer of such a vehicle and the right to license the vehicle and the driver with reasonable standards. It is even more desirable for the State to have reasonable regulations for the ownership and use of a firearm in an effort to stop mindless homicidal carnage.

Second Amendment Does Not Guarantee the Right To Own a Gun (From Gun Control, P 99-102, 1992, Charles P Cozic, ed. -- See NCJ-160164) | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

Correct.

No right is ‘absolute’ or ‘unlimited.’

Rights are subject to limits and restrictions consistent with Constitutional case law.

With regard to the Second Amendment, it is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You want to end mass shooting? Address mental health.

After the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas, the conservative response to calls for gun reform was to blame mental illness. During a news conference following the terrible school shooting in Uvalde, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said “We, as a state, we, as a society, need to do a better job with mental health … Anybody who shoots somebody else has a mental health challenge, period.” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has expressed a similar sentiment: “It seems to me there are two broad categories that underscore the problem, mental illness and school safety.”

This is an absurd — yet familiar — analysis from Republicans that ignores the reasons why the United States uniquely struggles with mass shootings. While it is probably true that many of the people who commit these horrific crimes are not mentally well, mental illness is global; the U.S. is unusual, however, because people struggling with mental illnesses — and everybody else — can so easily get powerful weapons like the kinds used in mass shootings. Unlike any other country, the U.S. now has more guns than people.

But if GOP lawmakers are going to make the fact that we have already had more than 200 mass shootingsthis year about mental illness — and not the lack of federal gun laws — then fine. It creates an opportunity for Democrats to help a vulnerable and underserved group of people in the U.S. by calling for significantly increasing funding for mental health-related programs.


This would be particularly timely and important because, as many mental health experts have argued, the Covid-19 pandemic has exacerbated mental health problems in the U.S., especially among younger people who had to miss important and valuable periods of in-person learning and social life.

If Republicans genuinely believe that mental illness is the driving force behind murderous rampages with high-powered weapons, then surely they should be anxious to support programs that help pay for mental health interventions, including things such as therapy, evaluations, making medicine more affordable, research on the causes and potential ways to ameliorate mental illness, supportive living facilities for people with mental illness and the rest of the panoply of programs this country desperately needs.

But the way that the GOP has vehemently tried to restrict access to Medicaid — the country’s single largest payer for mental health services — it is doubtful that Republicans genuinely care to do that. And after all, this is a party that has been cutting spending for mental illness for decades. The most famous practitioner of this was Ronald Reagan, who, as governor of California and president, defunded support for the mentally ill.

(full article online)

Opinion | Democrats have an opportunity to call the GOP's bluff on mental illness

Either Republicans are going to vote yes on policies and money that fund much-needed services or concede that they don't think mental health is the main cause of mass shootings.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ The extreme Right projects all on the Biden Family which has been done by the Trump Family.
But only since Trump became President. Quite telling ]









(vide all tweets online)

That time when Hunter Biden's Dad said that we need to Terminate the Constitution

www.dailykos.com

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I just did

No you didn't, you just regurgitated a narrative by people who do not have a fucking clue what they are talking about. I have owned weapons for over 40 years I come from a military family none of the weapons I fired in the military can be purchased at my local gun store.

The AR-15 has never been issued to troops and other than cosmetic similarities is not an M-16. It is a semi-automatic firearm. The M-16 and all it's iterations are selective fire weapons. Semi-automatic to 2 round burst for the newer versions and full-auto for the older.

Education is the first step to understanding an issue. Stop listening to people who do not know a damn thing about firearms. Otherwise you just look like a clueless moron.

 

[Sixties Fan]

No you didn't, you just regurgitated a narrative by people who do not have a fucking clue what they are talking about. I have owned weapons for over 40 years I come from a military family none of the weapons I fired in the military can be purchased at my local gun store.

The AR-15 has never been issued to troops and other than cosmetic similarities is not an M-16. It is a semi-automatic firearm. The M-16 and all it's iterations are selective fire weapons. Semi-automatic to 2 round burst for the newer versions and full-auto for the older.

Education is the first step to understanding an issue. Stop listening to people who do not know a damn thing about firearms. Otherwise you just look like a clueless moron.

You are embellishing the idea that the AR-15 is not similar to a Military designed weapon.

No, the AR-15 has not been issued to the military.

The AR-15 was designed to come as close to what a Military issued weapon looks like, but to be sold to civilians.

You may deny facts all you like about the AR-15.
The facts have been known since that weapon was designed, manufactured and made available to civilians.


Gun addicted people cannot let go of it.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

You are embellishing the idea that the AR-15 is not similar to a Military designed weapon.

No, the AR-15 has not been issued to the military.

The AR-15 was designed to come as close to what a Military issued weapon looks like, but to be sold to civilians.

You may deny facts all you like about the AR-15.
The facts have been known since that weapon was designed, manufactured and made available to civilians.


Gun addicted people cannot let go of it.

"Looks like" is not the same as how it functions. You want to ban a firearm for cosmetics. Your opinion is worthless to anyone with more than half a brain cell and those who think for themselves.

 

[rightwinger]

And this sort of rhetoric from conservatives is yet another example of the right’s war on the Constitution, the rule of law, and our democratic institutions – to propagate lies about fraud and stolen elections intended to undermine the political process where voters abandon political participate perceived as beneficial to Republicans.

Right now, the biggest attack by Conservatives on the Constitution is taking place in the Supreme Court